#OccupyWallstreet

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spidey07

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If you'd have said that there wasn't very much damage and the police chief radically and unfairly overestimated the damage i'd have agreed with you, but the building looks like it's in good enough physical shape to be reopened some time in the future when they find tenants.

Yep, they claimed it as "our property". But you'll still have people say they aren't against private property/rights.

One of the founding principles of communism is the abolition of private property. Connect the damn dots.
 

IGBT

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lets hope this militant liberalism keeps going right up to election day. Let the voters know who the obama's base really is. Squatters at best.
 

Craig234

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lets hope this militant liberalism keeps going right up to election day. Let the voters know who the obama's base really is. Squatters at best.

Idiotic post.

Yes, let's just get rid of the middle class and have all billionares and poor. Good plan.
 

werepossum

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The sad fact is that I brought up Kalle Lasn and his colleagues' roles VERY early in this thread, yet folks like airdata never even bothered to look him up or fully understand the movement.

I'm looking forward to his response to the New Yorker article, but only if he bothers to read the entire thing...

Yeah, it's bizarre. It's like they have an inability to even contemplate from whence this thing springs, or who is leading it, or what they really want even when it's placed in front of them. I could understand it at least a tiny bit if it was me or cybrsage or Spidey, we're pretty unabashed righties and the committed lefties might well just ignore anything we say, but I can't understand why they would ignore you, or the journalism of a left wing publication like The New Yorker. And it's not like these people are trying to hide behind the scenes like Soros or the Koch brothers, they are fairly visible. (Although not in the least honest - they call themselves anarchists, but they are your standard anti-capitalist, anti-private property rights, far left Marxists dedicated to grabbing the work product of others for their own benefit.)
 

dwell

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I'm just waiting for all the people who claimed OWS was the beginning of the end for America as we know it to come out and admit they were wrong.

Seriously, I know a guy in his 40s, an Ivy League grad, who told me in all seriousness that this may be the end of capitalism. Why do people so smart think so stupidly?

OWS was a fad for bored slackers and now they've moved on to the next "planking" type waste of time.
 

spidey07

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So today's the day they shut down the ports on the west coast. Will there be violence from the protesters? It could get ugly as it turns out even the Longshoreman union are not associating with their shutdown.

When your biggest supporters, unions, start distancing themselves from you maybe you should evaluate if attempting to shut down commerce and affect people's jobs is a good idea.
 

monovillage

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...ccupyports4thldwritethru.html?syndication=rss


"Kari Koch, organizer with Shut Down the Ports Working Group of Occupy Portland, said by shutting down the port, Wall Street will be unable to create profit.

"We will not stand for corporate profits at the expense of working people, we will not stand for attacks on workers, and we will not allow our schools to be closed, social services slashed, and families to be impoverished by your greed!" Koch said Monday in statement.

Organizers hope to draw thousands to stand in solidarity with longshoremen and port truckers they say are being exploited.

"Taking on and blocking the 1 percent at the port is also taking on the global issue of exploitation by capitalism," said Occupy Oakland blockade organizer Barucha Peller.

The International Longshore and Warehouse Union, which represents many thousands of longshoremen up and down the West Coast, has distanced itself from the shutdown effort. The union's president suggested in a letter to members that protesters were attempting to co-opt the union's cause to advance their own agenda"
 

cybrsage

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So today's the day they shut down the ports on the west coast. Will there be violence from the protesters? It could get ugly as it turns out even the Longshoreman union are not associating with their shutdown.

When your biggest supporters, unions, start distancing themselves from you maybe you should evaluate if attempting to shut down commerce and affect people's jobs is a good idea.

Unions are known for becoming very violent and destructive when they do not immediately get their way. I expect them to drive off the non-bathers rather quickly once their paychecks stop coming.
 

spidey07

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...ccupyports4thldwritethru.html?syndication=rss


"Kari Koch, organizer with Shut Down the Ports Working Group of Occupy Portland, said by shutting down the port, Wall Street will be unable to create profit.

"We will not stand for corporate profits at the expense of working people, we will not stand for attacks on workers, and we will not allow our schools to be closed, social services slashed, and families to be impoverished by your greed!" Koch said Monday in statement.

Organizers hope to draw thousands to stand in solidarity with longshoremen and port truckers they say are being exploited.

"Taking on and blocking the 1 percent at the port is also taking on the global issue of exploitation by capitalism," said Occupy Oakland blockade organizer Barucha Peller.

The International Longshore and Warehouse Union, which represents many thousands of longshoremen up and down the West Coast, has distanced itself from the shutdown effort. The union's president suggested in a letter to members that protesters were attempting to co-opt the union's cause to advance their own agenda"

But, but, but, you had OWS supporters here clamoring it was NOT an anti-capitalist movement?

Remember, one of the founding principles of communism is to end capitalism.
 
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Patranus

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I think its pretty funny that today they are protesting at ports because Goldman Sachs owns an interest in a shipping company and they organized these event on Facebook.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Looks like OWS shut down the ports.......Oops maybe not, looks like they just caused some traffic delays. I'm sure those affected by the traffic delays will be supportive of those who caused the delays.
 

dwell

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They'll blame the cops for the traffic delays because, ya know, it's there fault for maintaining order and all.
 

bfdd

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So today's the day they shut down the ports on the west coast. Will there be violence from the protesters? It could get ugly as it turns out even the Longshoreman union are not associating with their shutdown.

When your biggest supporters, unions, start distancing themselves from you maybe you should evaluate if attempting to shut down commerce and affect people's jobs is a good idea.

A union which supported them, until it started to infringe on their profit earning abilities, then they had to be stopped. It's pretty sad, no principles. If I was a longshoreman who had pushed my union to back them, I would be protesting my union leadership.
 

werepossum

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Dear Mom and Dad,
We had a very important day today. We blocked a major port for two hours. That'll show those evil Wall Street capitalists! I hope you understand now why I can't buy you Christmas presents. It isn't that I don't love you, it's just that capitalism is evil and it would betray my anarchist beliefs. Oh, and while we were celebrating our defeat of capitalism with a big dooby and some non-gender specific sex, someone stole my iphone and MacBook again, so you'll need to replace them.

Love in Marx,
your son and/or daughter (haven't decided yet)
 

spidey07

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Dear Mom and Dad,
We had a very important day today. We blocked a major port for two hours. That'll show those evil Wall Street capitalists! I hope you understand now why I can't buy you Christmas presents. It isn't that I don't love you, it's just that capitalism is evil and it would betray my anarchist beliefs. Oh, and while we were celebrating our defeat of capitalism with a big dooby and some non-gender specific sex, someone stole my iphone and MacBook again, so you'll need to replace them.

Love in Marx,
your son and/or daughter (haven't decided yet)

It's funny because it's true. You need to add "sorry I cost you some work and pay today, but this is winning!"
 

halik

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But, but, but, you had OWS supporters here clamoring it was NOT an anti-capitalist movement?

Remember, one of the founding principles of communism is to end capitalism.

Barucha Calamity Peller PDF Print E-mail
Barucha Calamity PellerBarucha Calamity Peller is a writer and photographer, high school dropout, and rebel rouser.

Lots of intellectual credentials in the leadership there...
 

monovillage

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The newest one is #Occupies protest against truck drivers and port workers. I guess #Occupy thinks they're the evil 1%. As we've seen before there's nothing that the #Occupy protesters like to do as much as screw working people doing their jobs.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-12-21-48-27

""This is joke. What are they protesting?" said Christian Vega, who sat in his truck carrying a load of recycled paper. He said the delay was costing him $600. "It only hurts me and the other drivers.

"We have jobs and families to support and feed," he said. "Most of them don't.""
 

spidey07

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Keep spreading your message OWS. This is your democracy in action! Your arab spring!

Please, please keep spreading your message. And please, please Obama and democrats keep up your support of them and the message. Please.
 

Patranus

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So the "progressives" here still can't explain why they are using a Goldman Sachs company to protest Goldman Sachs.
 

airdata

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So the "progressives" here still can't explain why they are using a Goldman Sachs company to protest Goldman Sachs.

Is this regarding your previous statement about Facebook?

This is the same as the whole " They're using an iphone to call a samsung phone, they're wearing clothes !!" argument, which is just dumb.

Plus alot of people using facebook probably have no idea. It's simply a tool. Other protesters have used twitter and facebook to organize. If you expect them to not utilize the most powerful tools they can and instead use smoke signals, you're just ignorant.


I'm not here to defend the actions of random people I don't know.. Just to point out that you guys are the ones keeping this thread rolling. You are the 99%.
 

Patranus

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Is this regarding your previous statement about Facebook?

This is the same as the whole " They're using an iphone to call a samsung phone, they're wearing clothes !!" argument, which is just dumb.

Plus alot of people using facebook probably have no idea. It's simply a tool. Other protesters have used twitter and facebook to organize. If you expect them to not utilize the most powerful tools they can and instead use smoke signals, you're just ignorant.


I'm not here to defend the actions of random people I don't know.. Just to point out that you guys are the ones keeping this thread rolling. You are the 99%.

LOL - So they are lining the pockets of Goldman Sachs while protesting Goldman Sachs. Got it.

There are plenty of tools/companies that Goldman Sachs has ZERO position in, but then again, we already know that these people are uninformed and not very smart.
 

palehorse

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Is this regarding your previous statement about Facebook?

This is the same as the whole " They're using an iphone to call a samsung phone, they're wearing clothes !!" argument, which is just dumb.

Plus alot of people using facebook probably have no idea. It's simply a tool. Other protesters have used twitter and facebook to organize. If you expect them to not utilize the most powerful tools they can and instead use smoke signals, you're just ignorant.

I'm not here to defend the actions of random people I don't know.. Just to point out that you guys are the ones keeping this thread rolling. You are the 99%.
I'm still waiting to hear your thoughts on the New Yorker article that thoroughly profiled the OWS puppet masters; as well as the revelation (for you) that Anonymous had nothing to do with creating it.

It's as though you're ignoring those items altogether...?
 
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