Originally posted by: usernamereserved
I will say sorry for the personal attack but will coolVariable say sorry at the lady in question if that review turns out correct ? I doubt it
If Wendy was a poster here, and she made claims regarding her experience with any drive, OCZ or otherwise, and any fellow poster made post attacks against her rather than the facts she used to justify her opinion then yes that poster would need to apologize in some manner that was acceptable to Wendy.
But this isn't about personal attacks on Wendy, it is about a group of individuals on this forum working thru the iterative open process of determining whether Wendy is to be considered a reasonable source of review informations or a source of information to be regarded as nothing short of OCZ sales propaganda.
All reviewers go thru this "vetting" process, it is the one's who don't take it personal and build a history and reputation for being systematic, reasonable, and unbiased that eventually become rewarded with unquestioned credibility.
She may have earned that degree of recognition among her peers at OCZ and CDfreaks. And she may very well yet earn that reputation here as well. But passionate posters such as yourself who are crusading on her behalf are not going to make friends for her, that much is for certain.
Originally posted by: usernamereserved
You said yourself early in this thread Idontcare that not all reviewers have access for Intel drives. Yet this is still held as a reason for saying the review is biased you also said that it looked like reviewer on another site had been told not to run 4K IOPS tests yet the lady run them anyway and run CrystalMark which you seemed quite happy about ?
Does that make her any less biased ?
Do not confuse my defense of a fellow poster here against a personal attack as my taking their position on the non-personal subject matter at hand.
I personally found Wendy's review data to be acceptable and value-add. However I do not have a history with Wendy as I do not follow the OCZ forums closely.
This does not mean I take coolvariable's "side" just because he says she is a shill, what it means is I take his input into consideration as I "reserve judgement" for the meantime until I see further confirmation of her activities as being shill-like or not shill-like.
Originally posted by: usernamereserved
She was at least naive for saying stuff in the open on OCZ forums that other reviewers including AT would only say behind closed doors. but where i live folks are innocent until proved guilty. only time will tell if the lady was biased or not and that will be decided by the people who buy Vertex not a couple of folks on a forum or by any review even a review by AT.
She can be innocent, doesn't mean I am going to assume every person who is innocent is also knowledgeable and trustworthy or without susceptibility to concepts of allegiance and loyalty to a pseudo-employer who smiles kindly upon her enough as to reward her good behavior with early access to review samples.
Originally posted by: usernamereserved
for your last sentence Idontcare. the mods were around as early as page two in this thread and joined in. how unbiased or professional is that ? It does not give AT a very professional look when their mods cannot stay neutral and at least wait for further results before making such judgements
You are new to these forums so it is excusable that you do not understand the existing policy and structures in place that preclude mods who are active in threads from also being the "mod" for the thread. If a mod feels it is necessary to have moderator action taken in a thread in which they themselves have been active in then a request will be placed to higher-level mods to review the thread as an independent party.
Do not confuse posts made by AT posters who are moderators as being a post made in the capacity of a moderator. Moderators are active in these forums because they want to engage in the subject matter, that is what made them become members in the first place and only later did they get promoted to mods.
Unless a moderator explicitly makes reference to their post as being from a mod in some authoritative capacity it is safe to assume you are reading a post by the person in their non-mod capacity.