****OFFICAL ALCS THREAD****

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
I am a sox fan, but I agree with the yanks on this one, Jeter often does have clutch hits in the postseason and does elevate his level of play. This might not be reflected in his numbers but by watching him play you can tell he is more intense. But in this ALCS he seems to not have the same spark he has had in previous years, and I think his attitude and performance can make or break the yankees in game 7. Which is why I'm hoping he does horrible tonight.

So he 'elevates his level of play', but this isn't reflected in the numbers? Interesting. I didn't know that was possible when we're dealing with around 400 at bats. What other secrets do the Yakees hold?

wow, lets see ...

if a player has an 1-5 night and strikes out 4 times, but hits a little blooper to win the game, according to you he had a bad night. wow, amazing baseball fan you are

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
I am a sox fan, but I agree with the yanks on this one, Jeter often does have clutch hits in the postseason and does elevate his level of play. This might not be reflected in his numbers but by watching him play you can tell he is more intense. But in this ALCS he seems to not have the same spark he has had in previous years, and I think his attitude and performance can make or break the yankees in game 7. Which is why I'm hoping he does horrible tonight.

So he 'elevates his level of play', but this isn't reflected in the numbers? Interesting. I didn't know that was possible when we're dealing with around 400 at bats. What other secrets do the Yakees hold?

wow, lets see ...

if a player has an 1-5 night and strikes out 4 times, but hits a little blooper to win the game, according to you he had a bad night. wow, amazing baseball fan you are

Hilarious and shows your complete lack of knowledge concerning baseball statistics.

We're dealing with around 400 at bats - not a single game.

Nice try though.

If Jeter elevates his level of play, how come there is no measure of this? How come there is nothing that says this?

Am I supposed to believe that he can also fly because you are a Yankees fan?

 

[badmouse]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock
How's it gonna end guys?
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/...n/polling?event_id=939
Make your vote, some good choices there lol

Ha ha! Some good ones indeed!

So, you think it'll be a nice boring 1-0 game tonite?

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
I am a sox fan, but I agree with the yanks on this one, Jeter often does have clutch hits in the postseason and does elevate his level of play. This might not be reflected in his numbers but by watching him play you can tell he is more intense. But in this ALCS he seems to not have the same spark he has had in previous years, and I think his attitude and performance can make or break the yankees in game 7. Which is why I'm hoping he does horrible tonight.

So he 'elevates his level of play', but this isn't reflected in the numbers? Interesting. I didn't know that was possible when we're dealing with around 400 at bats. What other secrets do the Yakees hold?

wow, lets see ...

if a player has an 1-5 night and strikes out 4 times, but hits a little blooper to win the game, according to you he had a bad night. wow, amazing baseball fan you are

Hilarious and shows your complete lack of knowledge concerning baseball statistics.

We're dealing with around 400 at bats - not a single game.

Nice try though.

If Jeter elevates his level of play, how come there is no measure of this? How come there is nothing that says this?

Am I supposed to believe that he can also fly because you are a Yankees fan?

i was just pointing out that statistics arent everything and used that as an example. but an overwhelming majority of people here will tell you that Jeter is the player you want on your team during the postseason.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
I am a sox fan, but I agree with the yanks on this one, Jeter often does have clutch hits in the postseason and does elevate his level of play. This might not be reflected in his numbers but by watching him play you can tell he is more intense. But in this ALCS he seems to not have the same spark he has had in previous years, and I think his attitude and performance can make or break the yankees in game 7. Which is why I'm hoping he does horrible tonight.

So he 'elevates his level of play', but this isn't reflected in the numbers? Interesting. I didn't know that was possible when we're dealing with around 400 at bats. What other secrets do the Yakees hold?

wow, lets see ...

if a player has an 1-5 night and strikes out 4 times, but hits a little blooper to win the game, according to you he had a bad night. wow, amazing baseball fan you are

Hilarious and shows your complete lack of baseball statistics.

We're dealing with around 400 at bats - not a single game.

Nice try though.

If Jeter elevates his level of play, how come there is no measure of this? How come there is nothing that says this?

Am I supposed to believe that he can also fly because you are a Yankees fan?

STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: raildogg
i was just using that as an example. but an overwhelming majority of people here will tell you that Jeter is the player you want on your team during the postseason.

A one game example means nothing when we're looking at 400 or so at bats. Anyone with any understanding of sabermetrics would know this.

I don't really care what other people are saying. I would want Jeter on my team, too, so that doesn't really mean much. However, he doesn't magically become a different player and magically 'elevate' his performance.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg
i was just using that as an example. but an overwhelming majority of people here will tell you that Jeter is the player you want on your team during the postseason.

A one game example means nothing when we're looking at 400 or so at bats. Anyone with any understanding of sabermetrics would know this.

I don't really care what other people are saying. I would want Jeter on my team, too, so that doesn't really mean much. However, he doesn't magically become a different player and magically 'elevate' his performance.

lmao, i knew you would keep repeating that. whoops

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Glitchny
STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

Wow, what a great argument.

Anyone that is talking about batting average to discredit every statistic doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Statistics show a player's performance and a player's performance contributes to championships. Again, we're dealing with around 400 at bats - not a single game or series.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg
i was just using that as an example. but an overwhelming majority of people here will tell you that Jeter is the player you want on your team during the postseason.

A one game example means nothing when we're looking at 400 or so at bats. Anyone with any understanding of sabermetrics would know this.

I don't really care what other people are saying. I would want Jeter on my team, too, so that doesn't really mean much. However, he doesn't magically become a different player and magically 'elevate' his performance.

lmao, i knew you would keep repeating that. whoops

Hey, a Yankees fan told me that Jeter hit 45 grandslams in one single postseason game. I better believe him because he's a Yankees fan.

The Yankees aren't held to statistics at all!

 

[virtueixi]

I am a yankee fan. However, this thread has turned into such a flamefest. I think we can all agree that tonight's game is going to be awesome and both are great teams.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

Wow, what a great argument.

Anyone that is talking about batting average to discredit every statistic doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Statistics show a player's performance and a player's performance contributes to championships.

let me give you another example.

its game 7 of a postseason series (WS or LCS) and a hitter is up ... he has hit 4 out of 35 the previous 6 games, and hits the game winning home run. that meant he came thru in the clutch ... and Jeter has done this time and time again. your BS about statistics doesnt work in the playoffs.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

Wow, what a great argument.

Anyone that is talking about batting average to discredit every statistic doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Statistics show a player's performance and a player's performance contributes to championships.

let me give you another example.

its game 7 of a postseason series (WS or LCS) and a hitter is up ... he has hit 4 out of 35 the previous 6 games, and hits the game winning home run. that meant he came thru in the clutch ... and Jeter has done this time and time again. your BS about statistics doesnt work in the playoffs.

Sure it does when we're dealing with 400 at bats.

But I guess Jeter defies all statistics..and he 'elevates' his entire game and this can't be seen by anything else but must be accepted because a homer Yankees fan says so!

A Yankees fan told me that Jeter has never made an out in the postseason. I should believe him because he's a Yankees fan!

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

Wow, what a great argument.

Anyone that is talking about batting average to discredit every statistic doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Statistics show a player's performance and a player's performance contributes to championships.

let me give you another example.

its game 7 of a postseason series (WS or LCS) and a hitter is up ... he has hit 4 out of 35 the previous 6 games, and hits the game winning home run. that meant he came thru in the clutch ... and Jeter has done this time and time again. your BS about statistics doesnt work in the playoffs.

Sure it does when we're dealing with 400 at bats.

But I guess Jeter defies all statistics..and he 'elevates' his entire game and this can't be seen by anything else but must be accepted because a homer Yankees fan says so!

A Yankees fan told me that Jeter has never made an out in the postseason. I should believe him because he's a Yankees fan!

wow, .

oh and El Duque is the best pitcher to ever pitch in the post season

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

Wow, what a great argument.

Anyone that is talking about batting average to discredit every statistic doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Statistics show a player's performance and a player's performance contributes to championships.

let me give you another example.

its game 7 of a postseason series (WS or LCS) and a hitter is up ... he has hit 4 out of 35 the previous 6 games, and hits the game winning home run. that meant he came thru in the clutch ... and Jeter has done this time and time again. your BS about statistics doesnt work in the playoffs.

Sure it does when we're dealing with 400 at bats.

But I guess Jeter defies all statistics..and he 'elevates' his entire game and this can't be seen by anything else but must be accepted because a homer Yankees fan says so!

A Yankees fan told me that Jeter has never made an out in the postseason. I should believe him because he's a Yankees fan!

wow, .

oh and El Duque is the best pitcher to ever pitch in the post season

What happens if a Red Sox fan says Schilling is the best ever? Oh my, would the world explode?

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
STATISTICS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The yanks dont have a single .300 hitter on the team this year, and yet they almost swept the sox. The sox have scored more runs this season than anybody else, but they couldnt get a hit before the 6th inning in two games straight!! hell damon might go 6-6 today and win the game, but statisticly he isnt doing well, it doesnt matter, all that matters is the W and jeter gets the W's

Wow, what a great argument.

Anyone that is talking about batting average to discredit every statistic doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Statistics show a player's performance and a player's performance contributes to championships.

let me give you another example.

its game 7 of a postseason series (WS or LCS) and a hitter is up ... he has hit 4 out of 35 the previous 6 games, and hits the game winning home run. that meant he came thru in the clutch ... and Jeter has done this time and time again. your BS about statistics doesnt work in the playoffs.

Sure it does when we're dealing with 400 at bats.

But I guess Jeter defies all statistics..and he 'elevates' his entire game and this can't be seen by anything else but must be accepted because a homer Yankees fan says so!

A Yankees fan told me that Jeter has never made an out in the postseason. I should believe him because he's a Yankees fan!

wow, .

oh and El Duque is the best pitcher to ever pitch in the post season

What happens if a Red Sox fan says Schilling is the best ever? Oh my, would the world explode?

now ur just being an obvious troll, i mean ur not even supporting ur own argument, u just keep saying 400 at bats blah blah blah. Just give it a rest.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Glitchny
now ur just being an obvious troll, i mean ur not even supporting ur own argument, u just keep saying 400 at bats blah blah blah. Just give it a rest.

Yeah, because talking about sample size isn't relevant when dealing with statistics and you talking about small sample sizes :roll:

Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about and you try to discredit something that you hardly even have a slight grasp on.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
now ur just being an obvious troll, i mean ur not even supporting ur own argument, u just keep saying 400 at bats blah blah blah. Just give it a rest.

Yeah, because talking about sample size isn't relevant when dealing with statistics and you talking about small sample sizes :roll:

Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about and you try to discredit something that you hardly even have a slight grasp on.

big hits and big plays are much more important than stats in the post season. end of debate

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Glitchny
now ur just being an obvious troll, i mean ur not even supporting ur own argument, u just keep saying 400 at bats blah blah blah. Just give it a rest.

Yeah, because talking about sample size isn't relevant when dealing with statistics and you talking about small sample sizes :roll:

Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about and you try to discredit something that you hardly even have a slight grasp on.

I never claimed to have a great understanding of statistical theory, but the fact remains that nobody cares, but you. Almost any fan in baseball (not just yankee fans) will agree that jeter is a clutch preformer in the postseason. You obviously disagree, and thats fine, u have ur stance and I have mine. give it a rest.

 

[badmouse]

So where's our ALCS game? I'm enjoying the NLCS game, but isn't it supposed to switch games at 8?

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: badmouse
So where's our ALCS game? I'm enjoying the NLCS game, but isn't it supposed to switch games at 8?

it will probably start on FX

 

[drum]

of course with edmonds just ending it... game 7 for nlcs

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Glitchny
I never claimed to have a great understanding of statistical theory, but the fact remains that nobody cares, but you. Almost any fan in baseball (not just yankee fans) will agree that jeter is a clutch preformer in the postseason. You obviously disagree, and thats fine, u have ur stance and I have mine. give it a rest.

That's nice. At least you admit that you have little understanding of what you are crying about.

 

[cliftonite]

Never been this worried as a Yankee fan I got a baaaaad feeling about this

 

[badmouse]

Originally posted by: cliftonite
Never been this worried as a Yankee fan I got a baaaaad feeling about this

/slap, slap. feeling better now?

This is JUST what that yanks have been doing all year. Flashes of greatness, ridiculous depths, then coming from behind. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Yankees all the way.

 

[rsd]

Man I'm a f'ing mess right now, I'm so excited/nervous for this game.

I can see it going either way...but something my heart is telling me (pleading?) that we are about to witness some history.

Strap your seat belts on boys, 'cause its going to be a bumpy ride.