Official 2008 Superbowl Championship Thread

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Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: eEvolve2
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
You still cheated in the past. Those 3 Super Bowls should come with asterisks now.

Proof?

Everyone wants to give Bonds an * and there has been no actual no proof there. The Pats were actually caught cheating.

Plus doing it against the Jet of all people, with that head coach? They should just be disbanded for being that dumb :laugh:

For stealing signals? It's not illegal. They were guilty for videoing the signals. The tape has actually been released. If you view it, you see three guys giving signals. Please identify which one is giving the real signal and tell me how they can use it during the game.

edit - the funny thing is that it appears that the Jets were caught doing the same thing last year at New England but New England just ejected the guy and didn't report him to the the NFL. Mangini crying over spilled milk just wanted to get back at him.


Yeah you know the Patriots are totally innocent!! In fact, Goodell is a total jerk for unfairly fining Belichick and the Patriots organization!!! So unfair. Patriots did absolutely nothing wrong!!!

You really do live upto your screenname.

huh? Please trying making some sense and not have to result to personal attacks.

ok.

Oh Noes!!! I didn't proof my sentence!!!!

edit - It's not illegal to steal signals. You know the rules?
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: kindest
they should strip their win from the jets
that said they will still win the superbowl

I think the Pats will probably goto the Super Bowl this year. They are stacked and tonight's game proves that they are truly elite. But their past games should come with an asterisk with Belicheat and Shady Brady conniving together.
 

Anonemous

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the pats are just a buncha friggin cheaters who use satellite surveillance, bugs, lip readers, pen and paper, and randy moss...

let those pats fans look like whiners who cares, even if they beat the steelers/eagles/colts they still are a buncha cheaters like they showed today...

we'll just flame them when they eventually lose for not cheating enough... damn cheatriots...
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: eEvolve2
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
You still cheated in the past. Those 3 Super Bowls should come with asterisks now.

Proof?

Everyone wants to give Bonds an * and there has been no actual no proof there. The Pats were actually caught cheating.

Plus doing it against the Jet of all people, with that head coach? They should just be disbanded for being that dumb :laugh:

For stealing signals? It's not illegal. They were guilty for videoing the signals. The tape has actually been released. If you view it, you see three guys giving signals. Please identify which one is giving the real signal and tell me how they can use it during the game.

edit - the funny thing is that it appears that the Jets were caught doing the same thing last year at New England but New England just ejected the guy and didn't report him to the the NFL. Mangini crying over spilled milk just wanted to get back at him.


Yeah you know the Patriots are totally innocent!! In fact, Goodell is a total jerk for unfairly fining Belichick and the Patriots organization!!! So unfair. Patriots did absolutely nothing wrong!!!

You really do live upto your screenname.

huh? Please trying making some sense and not have to result to personal attacks.

ok.

Oh Noes!!! I didn't proof my sentence!!!!

edit - It's not illegal to steal signals. You know the rules?

Bwahahaha says the apologist. Show me where it says stealing signals is not illegal. LOL!!! Next thing you'll say is probably, "If you're not cheating, you're not trying." LOL.

Just in case you forgot:

steal Pronunciation[steel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, verb, stole, sto·len, steal·ing, noun

1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: eEvolve2
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
You still cheated in the past. Those 3 Super Bowls should come with asterisks now.

Proof?

Everyone wants to give Bonds an * and there has been no actual no proof there. The Pats were actually caught cheating.

Plus doing it against the Jet of all people, with that head coach? They should just be disbanded for being that dumb :laugh:

For stealing signals? It's not illegal. They were guilty for videoing the signals. The tape has actually been released. If you view it, you see three guys giving signals. Please identify which one is giving the real signal and tell me how they can use it during the game.

edit - the funny thing is that it appears that the Jets were caught doing the same thing last year at New England but New England just ejected the guy and didn't report him to the the NFL. Mangini crying over spilled milk just wanted to get back at him.


Yeah you know the Patriots are totally innocent!! In fact, Goodell is a total jerk for unfairly fining Belichick and the Patriots organization!!! So unfair. Patriots did absolutely nothing wrong!!!

You really do live upto your screenname.

huh? Please trying making some sense and not have to result to personal attacks.

ok.

Oh Noes!!! I didn't proof my sentence!!!!

edit - It's not illegal to steal signals. You know the rules?

Bwahahaha says the apologist. Show me where it says stealing signals is not illegal. LOL!!! Next thing you'll say is probably, "If you're not cheating, you're not trying." LOL.

Just in case you forgot:

steal Pronunciation[steel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, verb, stole, sto·len, steal·ing, noun

1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.

You should stop posting if you think stealing signals is illegal. And if it is, Mike Shanahan is a moron for telling everyone that he steals signals with binoculars. :roll: Anyway, i'm going to bed with glee, suck it down bitches (not directed at only you, directed at everyone that's not a Patriots fan )
 

eEvolve2

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Is there a copy of the Official Rule book anywhere online? I'd love to read the rules on this subject for myself. (And see why they were "interpreted wrong")

Edit: Found it on amazon for $10. I might pick up a copy. I'm just that Geeky.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: eEvolve2
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
You still cheated in the past. Those 3 Super Bowls should come with asterisks now.

Proof?

Everyone wants to give Bonds an * and there has been no actual no proof there. The Pats were actually caught cheating.

Plus doing it against the Jet of all people, with that head coach? They should just be disbanded for being that dumb :laugh:

For stealing signals? It's not illegal. They were guilty for videoing the signals. The tape has actually been released. If you view it, you see three guys giving signals. Please identify which one is giving the real signal and tell me how they can use it during the game.

edit - the funny thing is that it appears that the Jets were caught doing the same thing last year at New England but New England just ejected the guy and didn't report him to the the NFL. Mangini crying over spilled milk just wanted to get back at him.


Yeah you know the Patriots are totally innocent!! In fact, Goodell is a total jerk for unfairly fining Belichick and the Patriots organization!!! So unfair. Patriots did absolutely nothing wrong!!!

You really do live upto your screenname.

huh? Please trying making some sense and not have to result to personal attacks.

ok.

Oh Noes!!! I didn't proof my sentence!!!!

edit - It's not illegal to steal signals. You know the rules?

Bwahahaha says the apologist. Show me where it says stealing signals is not illegal. LOL!!! Next thing you'll say is probably, "If you're not cheating, you're not trying." LOL.

Just in case you forgot:

steal Pronunciation[steel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, verb, stole, sto·len, steal·ing, noun

1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.

Show me the rule that stealing signals is illegal. Guess what there is not. So, it's legal. What were the Pats penalized for exactly? Not stealing signals but for video taping them. If stealing was illegal, why does every team have three people sending in signals(two of them are fake)?

Why does Mike Shanahan admit to stealing signals by hiring lip readers?
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: daveymark
yawn. why not post this in one of the thousand other threads about the cheatriots ?

Probably because it was so easy to work him up in those threads
 
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lol i know the dark side is in you, i can feel it. embrace your emotions, and take your place by belichick's side. MUAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
 

BUTCH1

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A person in the seats w/ digital binoculars would be virtually undetectable, and he should have known Mangini
would be looking for this. Thanks BB, now I get to hear crap all day cause I'm a Pat's fan...
 

MBrown

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Originally posted by: kindest
they should strip their win from the jets
that said they will still win the superbowl

The guy was caught in the first quarter...
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: MBrown
Originally posted by: kindest
they should strip their win from the jets
that said they will still win the superbowl

The guy was caught in the first quarter...

So if you cheat on one of your middle school tests but you're only a quarter of the way through it when the teacher catches you what's going to happen?

I'd like to give you some common sense credit here but, like the hypothetical test, you fail.
 

MBrown

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: MBrown
Originally posted by: kindest
they should strip their win from the jets
that said they will still win the superbowl

The guy was caught in the first quarter...

So if you cheat on one of your middle school tests but you're only a quarter of the way through it when the teacher catches you what's going to happen?

I'd like to give you some common sense credit here but, like the hypothetical test, you fail.

Its not like if they didn't have the camera there at all during the game that the jets would have won. And don't think that the Pats are the only team in the NFL to do this. The Pats are just the first ones to get caught. And IMO video tapping some hand signals is not THAT big of a deal. This just gives pats haters something to...hate on us about.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: MBrown
Originally posted by: kindest
they should strip their win from the jets
that said they will still win the superbowl

The guy was caught in the first quarter...

So if you cheat on one of your middle school tests but you're only a quarter of the way through it when the teacher catches you what's going to happen?

I'd like to give you some common sense credit here but, like the hypothetical test, you fail.

They couldn't take advantage of the videotape because it got confiscated so early, it takes time to decode the signals. When you cheat on a test, you benefit as soon as the pencil hits the paper. Bad analogy. And they did get punished for it, they lost a 1st round draft pick plus got fined.
You = not smart.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: eEvolve2
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Passions
You still cheated in the past. Those 3 Super Bowls should come with asterisks now.

Proof?

Everyone wants to give Bonds an * and there has been no actual no proof there.
Actually, that is incorrect. Bonds has admitted to using steroids. He claims that he didn't know he was using them. Which everyone knows is BS.

 

krunchykrome

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The Packers, Lions, Texans, and 49er's are also 2-0....and they did it without cheating.

It's only week 2....:roll:
 

Genx87

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I understand the underlying ethical standards the league is trying to uphold. But they video tapped signals omfg. Like there arent 30 guys in various parts of the stadium trying to read the lips and hand signals and relay that information back to HQ.

I remember doing these things when I was 12 years old in baseball. It became a game to figure out what the pitcher and catcher were doing along with the base coaches.

This wont stop the practice of stealing signals, only keep them from video tapping it.

Big effing deal.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Genx87
I understand the underlying ethical standards the league is trying to uphold. But they video tapped signals omfg. Like there arent 30 guys in various parts of the stadium trying to read the lips and hand signals and relay that information back to HQ.

I remember doing these things when I was 12 years old in baseball. It became a game to figure out what the pitcher and catcher were doing along with the base coaches.

This wont stop the practice of stealing signals, only keep them from video tapping it.

Big effing deal.

It's nice to know i can agree with Genx outside of P&N
 

shocksyde

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I love the people who say "Big Deal."

Obviously it is a big deal if $750,000 in fines were handed out and draft picks are at stake.

Seriously... Not a big deal? Please.
 

LegendKiller

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This whole thing seems like such a contrived situation.

1. Everybody knows everybody does this stuff.

2. It was obviously retribution against Bilicheck for the prior situation, which Bilicheck handled well, while this coach did not.

3. The team obviously doesn't absolutely need this.

4. Everybody wants to jump on the Pats because they are good, thus, you get this situation.

as far as comparing it to cheating on tests. Please, are you 12? Using strategy to figure out everything you can about the opposing team isn't cheating. If they were on the other sideline with microphones, looking over coach's shoulders, that'd be different, but they weren't.

This is much ado about nothing.
 
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