Official 2008 Superbowl Championship Thread

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Carbo
Where's that great, all knowing football prognosticator? The one who calls himself, Dorko?
He who laps the juices of Tony Romo? He who calls Eli Manning a wimp, a loser, and a blown trade by the Giants? He who boldly stated the Cowbitches would win the Super Bowl this year, and the Giants would finish last in their Division??
Oh, Dorko?? Come out, come out, wherever you are. . .

Who is this sniveling piece of shit? The little bitch that cried about his coach all year? Who the fuck are you to call anyone out? Yea, I thought the Giants would suck this year, SO DID EVERYONE ELSE! Congrats, your team pulled the upset. That aside, Eli is garbage. Eli is a pathetic excuse for a human. The little whiner can win the Superbowl all he wants, he still circumvented the ways of the NFL, and it never would have worked were it not for his family. He didn't deserve the MVP, and deep down inside, no matter how many crybox comments you make, you know it's true.

Go ahead, bust out the crybox. Your team won, so I guess you earned it - you have one year to make all the snide remarks you want, no matter how untrue they are - but Eli never, ever deserved that MVP.

Pathetic.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: SSSnail

Originally posted by: Carbo
Where's that great, all knowing football prognosticator? The one who calls himself, Dorko?
He who laps the juices of Tony Romo? He who calls Eli Manning a wimp, a loser, and a blown trade by the Giants? He who boldly stated the Cowbitches would win the Super Bowl this year, and the Giants would finish last in their Division??
Oh, Dorko?? Come out, come out, wherever you are. . .

Who's that guy that Mike Tyson lost to again?

Tyson lost to several guys. some no namers at end of his career.

But I'm guessing you're thinking of Buster Douglas.

I didn't really want to find out who beat him, if you catch my drift.

 

[ThePresence]

When does training camp start?
I can't wait untill next season!


The Giants better overpay to keep Coach Spagnuolo.
He is ther reason the are champs today.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Carbo
Where's that great, all knowing football prognosticator? The one who calls himself, Dorko?
He who laps the juices of Tony Romo? He who calls Eli Manning a wimp, a loser, and a blown trade by the Giants? He who boldly stated the Cowbitches would win the Super Bowl this year, and the Giants would finish last in their Division??
Oh, Dorko?? Come out, come out, wherever you are. . .

Who is this sniveling piece of shit? The little bitch that cried about his coach all year? Who the fuck are you to call anyone out? Yea, I thought the Giants would suck this year, SO DID EVERYONE ELSE! Congrats, your team pulled the upset. That aside, Eli is garbage. Eli is a pathetic excuse for a human. The little whiner can win the Superbowl all he wants, he still circumvented the ways of the NFL, and it never would have worked were it not for his family. He didn't deserve the MVP, and deep down inside, no matter how many crybox comments you make, you know it's true.

Go ahead, bust out the crybox. Your team won, so I guess you earned it - you have one year to make all the snide remarks you want, no matter how untrue they are - but Eli never, ever deserved that MVP.

Pathetic.

wow dude. angry much? get over it. eli had a good game. the d-line was phenomenal. who cares if eli circumvented the ways of the NFL - he more than pulled his weight this game (and the during the rest of the playoffs).

 

[Mill]

I'm not the biggest fan of Eli, but all the Eli haters crack me up. The MVP each year is typically someone from the winning teamwho puts up a boatload of stats or makes a few clutch plays.

Deeko - Yes, it was a pretty silly move of Eli to make by refusing to go to SD. In the end, however, it worked out. SD got a BUNCH of great players, and NY got their QB. Ask SD if they'd trade the talent they got for Eli right now -- even after he won the Superbowl. They wouldn't. It sounds like you are the one whining. Are you willing to say the same thing about all the selfish bastards in all sports that demand a trade, sit out during camp, or put for a few games and refuse to play.

Other than Eli's little tiff in the Draft, he has been nothing but a classy and deserving player -- just like his brother. I'm not sure why everyone hates the Manning family so much. I don't think Eli is an awesome QB (at least not compared to Peyton), but he played very well on those last few drives. Give him some credit.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Carbo
Where's that great, all knowing football prognosticator? The one who calls himself, Dorko?
He who laps the juices of Tony Romo? He who calls Eli Manning a wimp, a loser, and a blown trade by the Giants? He who boldly stated the Cowbitches would win the Super Bowl this year, and the Giants would finish last in their Division??
Oh, Dorko?? Come out, come out, wherever you are. . .

Who is this sniveling piece of shit? The little bitch that cried about his coach all year? Who the fuck are you to call anyone out? Yea, I thought the Giants would suck this year, SO DID EVERYONE ELSE! Congrats, your team pulled the upset. That aside, Eli is garbage. Eli is a pathetic excuse for a human. The little whiner can win the Superbowl all he wants, he still circumvented the ways of the NFL, and it never would have worked were it not for his family. He didn't deserve the MVP, and deep down inside, no matter how many crybox comments you make, you know it's true.

Go ahead, bust out the crybox. Your team won, so I guess you earned it - you have one year to make all the snide remarks you want, no matter how untrue they are - but Eli never, ever deserved that MVP.

Pathetic.

I don't understand this hatred for Eli. He took a team with one good receiver and won the Super Bowl, throwing 2 TD passes and commanding a winning drive with seconds left that is up there with the all-time greatest. He stepped up in the playoffs and was a totally different player, showing he can win in the clutch. He showed Elway-like determination in avoiding that sack and completing the pass (reminded me of when Elway did a frontflip against Green Bay to score a touchdown running). Give the man some credit.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Farang
That and most people were responding for your (SampSon) hopes that two innocent people die in a plane crash because of a football game.

Yes, and most people are complete idiots for taking that seriously.. like you!
Loosen the belt, come back when you breathe again.

Originally posted by: Mill
I hate to tell you, but on that last drive he won the MVP. Being able to escape that pressure and complete that pass, and then his overall poise on the drive... that's why he won the MVP.

How could you say give it to Wes Welker? C'mon. Are you serious? C'mon.

Yea I understand how most view the idea that one play can seemingly make you the 'mvp'. So what happens if Plax drops the pass? What happens if Manning hands that ball off and Jacobs scores the winning touchdown? Then Jacobs is the MVP?

Welker did more than any single player on that field. Did he receive the glory? Of course not, but he was the most productive player on the field. I understand you can't give the MVP to a losing player, that just doesn't make sense.

If Tynes scored the winning field goal with 2 seconds to go, he would have the MVP. There was clearly no player that was 'most valueable' in the entire game, except the person who scored the winning point. So why isn't Plax the MVP? Is it only because the media feels obligated to suck Eli's balls?

Eli played like shit. Everyone knows it but no one will say it.

welker has certainly played phenomenally, but why would you argue that he should have been MVP of the superbowl? bah

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Deeko
However, Eli Manning winning the Superbowl disgusts me. It's a cool story that the Manning brothers won back to back Superbowls, but come on. I hate Eli. Everyone else should too.

Which is another thing. Sure, they orchestrated an impressive drive at the end. That said, Eli played BAD football for 58 minutes. The MVP should have been someone from the defensive line, that kept the Patriots to 14 poitns. Not Eli. He was far from the MVP of that game.

You can hate Eli all you want, that's fine. But he played bad football for 58 minutes? What did he do that was bad? Sure, he messed up on a couple of plays, he is human. I thought he played real well for the most part. The INT was absolutely no fault of his, and he played well. MVP? That was because of the last drive.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: maziwanka

wow dude. angry much? get over it. eli had a good game. the d-line was phenomenal. who cares if eli circumvented the ways of the NFL - he more than pulled his weight this game (and the during the rest of the playoffs).

Only at this little crybox Carbo. He comes out of nowhere when his team miraculously wins the Superbowl, after bashing his coach all year, and has the gall to bitch that I don't like his quarterback?

And pulled his weight? Eli didn't pull anything. If the Giants had Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding they'd be a MUCH better team. I was too young to remember Elway doing the same thing with the draft, but I'm sure I'd have hated him too.

The Patriots only scored 14 points. Eli should be in the locker room performing fallatio on every member of that defense, since they covered for his awful performance and made him a "hero".

 

[SampSon]

I honestly cannot believe you're going to attempt to put Eli Manning up there with 'the all-time greatest'. Really, Eli Manning part of the "all time greatest"?
Seriously?

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Deeko
God, I'm conflicted.

I obviously didn't want the Patriots to win. Who did? So to a point, I'm glad they lost.

However, Eli Manning winning the Superbowl disgusts me. It's a cool story that the Manning brothers won back to back Superbowls, but come on. I hate Eli. Everyone else should too.

Which is another thing. Sure, they orchestrated an impressive drive at the end. That said, Eli played BAD football for 58 minutes. The MVP should have been someone from the defensive line, that kept the Patriots to 14 poitns. Not Eli. He was far from the MVP of that game.

Anyway, I knew I wouldn't be happy with the result no matter who won, and I was correct. Go Tony Romo!

Umm, name the things that he did wrong today? I recall one instant of delay of game, that's the only thing that sticks out in my mind. Sure not all plays worked as designed but thats football. So go ahead and enlighten me as to this BAD football.

 

[SampSon]

welker has certainly played phenomenally, but why would you argue that he should have been MVP of the superbowl? bah

Read my posts.
Welker would never be the MVP on a losing team. If the Pats had won, then he would be near top of the running. Of course he would have been edged out by Brady or whoever got the ball from Brady to win the game. Whoever the media wants to fellate, gets the MVP.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Deeko
However, Eli Manning winning the Superbowl disgusts me. It's a cool story that the Manning brothers won back to back Superbowls, but come on. I hate Eli. Everyone else should too.

Which is another thing. Sure, they orchestrated an impressive drive at the end. That said, Eli played BAD football for 58 minutes. The MVP should have been someone from the defensive line, that kept the Patriots to 14 poitns. Not Eli. He was far from the MVP of that game.

You can hate Eli all you want, that's fine. But he played bad football for 58 minutes? What did he do that was bad? Sure, he messed up on a couple of plays, he is human. I thought he played real well for the most part. The INT was absolutely no fault of his, and he played well. MVP? That was because of the last drive.

He didn't deserve the MVP. It's the nature of the game that the QB gets too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses (except I'm sure Tom Brady won't receive any criticismf or this loss, he's perfect). Yes, he orchestrated a great last drive - that one play where he almost got sacked was amazing. But Most Valuable Player of the game? Not even close, not by a long shot.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: maziwanka

wow dude. angry much? get over it. eli had a good game. the d-line was phenomenal. who cares if eli circumvented the ways of the NFL - he more than pulled his weight this game (and the during the rest of the playoffs).

Only at this little crybox Carbo. He comes out of nowhere when his team miraculously wins the Superbowl, after bashing his coach all year, and has the gall to bitch that I don't like his quarterback?

And pulled his weight? Eli didn't pull anything. If the Giants had Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding they'd be a MUCH better team. I was too young to remember Elway doing the same thing with the draft, but I'm sure I'd have hated him too.

The Patriots only scored 14 points. Eli should be in the locker room performing fallatio on every member of that defense, since they covered for his awful performance and made him a "hero".

There is simply zero proof of that.

 

[Cyco]

You know what? Who really reads 31 pages? All I can say is that I hope this shuts the hell out of the Pats fans (won't) Undefeated don't mean anything if you don't win the championship. I hate the Giants, but I love them for beating the Pats. Suck it Pats fans!!!!!

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: maziwanka

wow dude. angry much? get over it. eli had a good game. the d-line was phenomenal. who cares if eli circumvented the ways of the NFL - he more than pulled his weight this game (and the during the rest of the playoffs).

Only at this little crybox Carbo. He comes out of nowhere when his team miraculously wins the Superbowl, after bashing his coach all year, and has the gall to bitch that I don't like his quarterback?

And pulled his weight? Eli didn't pull anything. If the Giants had Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding they'd be a MUCH better team. I was too young to remember Elway doing the same thing with the draft, but I'm sure I'd have hated him too.

The Patriots only scored 14 points. Eli should be in the locker room performing fallatio on every member of that defense, since they covered for his awful performance and made him a "hero".

i will agree with the d-line having played an unreal game. but, i will continue to assert that eli played well this game - albeit as well as the rest of his teammates. EVERYONE stepped up.

im certainly not arguing that eli is one of the greatest - i dont know enough about football to make one of those claims. it was just great to see the team come together to pull out one of the greatest upsets in sports history.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I honestly cannot believe you're going to attempt to put Eli Manning up there with 'the all-time greatest'. Really, Eli Manning part of the "all time greatest"?
Seriously?

If you're referring to me, I said all-time greatest drives. Coming from your own 17 to throw a miracle pass to move down field and eventually find your star receiver in the endzone to pull off what may be football's most shocking upset with seconds left? Yes, one of the greatest drives.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: maziwanka

wow dude. angry much? get over it. eli had a good game. the d-line was phenomenal. who cares if eli circumvented the ways of the NFL - he more than pulled his weight this game (and the during the rest of the playoffs).

Only at this little crybox Carbo. He comes out of nowhere when his team miraculously wins the Superbowl, after bashing his coach all year, and has the gall to bitch that I don't like his quarterback?

And pulled his weight? Eli didn't pull anything. If the Giants had Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding they'd be a MUCH better team. I was too young to remember Elway doing the same thing with the draft, but I'm sure I'd have hated him too.

The Patriots only scored 14 points. Eli should be in the locker room performing fallatio on every member of that defense, since they covered for his awful performance and made him a "hero".

I wouldnt trade the championship for Merriman, Kaeding, and Rivers. You can bitch all you want but no one can take this game away from us Giant fans.

Aside from the draft (orchestrated by his agent Tom Condon) Eli has done nothing wrong and has been a model citizen.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: KK

Umm, name the things that he did wrong today? I recall one instant of delay of game, that's the only thing that sticks out in my mind. Sure not all plays worked as designed but thats football. So go ahead and enlighten me as to this BAD football.

He didn't make many glaring errors, but since your commenting on the 58 minutes - his offense scored 10 points. Maybe he didn't throw 5 interceptions, but the last time I checked scoring 10 points isn't exactly a stellar performance. In fact, it's pretty unimpressive.

Again - congrats to the Giants. The team, especially the defense, turned in a great performance. Too bad it will be forever marred by an undeserving MVP award.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: SampSon
I honestly cannot believe you're going to attempt to put Eli Manning up there with 'the all-time greatest'. Really, Eli Manning part of the "all time greatest"?
Seriously?

If you're referring to me, I said all-time greatest drives. Coming from your own 17 to throw a miracle pass to move down field and eventually find your star receiver in the endzone to pull off what may be football's most shocking upset with seconds left? Yes, one of the greatest drives.

Eli doesn't deserve "all time" status.

Please remind me of who kept that drive alive, during both times of desperation.

Do you know him? He's a no-name, unlike Manning.
The man who kept it going was David Tyree. The man who will not be remembered for anything in this game. How many media talking heads are blowing Tyree for making the two biggest catches of the Giants season? None.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Deeko
God, I'm conflicted.

I obviously didn't want the Patriots to win. Who did? So to a point, I'm glad they lost.

However, Eli Manning winning the Superbowl disgusts me. It's a cool story that the Manning brothers won back to back Superbowls, but come on. I hate Eli. Everyone else should too.

Which is another thing. Sure, they orchestrated an impressive drive at the end. That said, Eli played BAD football for 58 minutes. The MVP should have been someone from the defensive line, that kept the Patriots to 14 poitns. Not Eli. He was far from the MVP of that game.

Anyway, I knew I wouldn't be happy with the result no matter who won, and I was correct. Go Tony Romo!

Umm, name the things that he did wrong today? I recall one instant of delay of game, that's the only thing that sticks out in my mind. Sure not all plays worked as designed but thats football. So go ahead and enlighten me as to this BAD football.

He cant, hes just grapsing at straws.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: KK

Umm, name the things that he did wrong today? I recall one instant of delay of game, that's the only thing that sticks out in my mind. Sure not all plays worked as designed but thats football. So go ahead and enlighten me as to this BAD football.

He didn't make many glaring errors, but since your commenting on the 58 minutes - his offense scored 10 points. Maybe he didn't throw 5 interceptions, but the last time I checked scoring 10 points isn't exactly a stellar performance. In fact, it's pretty unimpressive.

Again - congrats to the Giants. The team, especially the defense, turned in a great performance. Too bad it will be forever marred by an undeserving MVP award.

Against the cowboys it would have been unimpressive, but they were playing someone alot better.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Deeko
However, Eli Manning winning the Superbowl disgusts me. It's a cool story that the Manning brothers won back to back Superbowls, but come on. I hate Eli. Everyone else should too.

Which is another thing. Sure, they orchestrated an impressive drive at the end. That said, Eli played BAD football for 58 minutes. The MVP should have been someone from the defensive line, that kept the Patriots to 14 poitns. Not Eli. He was far from the MVP of that game.

You can hate Eli all you want, that's fine. But he played bad football for 58 minutes? What did he do that was bad? Sure, he messed up on a couple of plays, he is human. I thought he played real well for the most part. The INT was absolutely no fault of his, and he played well. MVP? That was because of the last drive.

He didn't deserve the MVP. It's the nature of the game that the QB gets too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses (except I'm sure Tom Brady won't receive any criticismf or this loss, he's perfect). Yes, he orchestrated a great last drive - that one play where he almost got sacked was amazing. But Most Valuable Player of the game? Not even close, not by a long shot.

You can't give an MVP to the whole defense. They will not give an MVP to a player on the losing team. They can't give an MVP to Coach Spagnuolo. Who is more deserving?

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

I wouldnt trade the championship for Merriman, Kaeding, and Rivers. You can bitch all you want but no one can take this game away from us Giant fans.

Aside from the draft (orchestrated by his agent Tom Condon) Eli has done nothing wrong and has been a model citizen.

lol - typical. Cuz Eli Manning was the championship. The missing piece. Couldn't have done it without his mind-blowing offensive performance tonight!

Rivers is on par with Eli. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Merriman is one of the best defenders in the NFL. Kaeding is a solid kicker, better than Tynes for sure. They'd be a far superior team with those 3 than Eli.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: KK

Umm, name the things that he did wrong today? I recall one instant of delay of game, that's the only thing that sticks out in my mind. Sure not all plays worked as designed but thats football. So go ahead and enlighten me as to this BAD football.

He didn't make many glaring errors, but since your commenting on the 58 minutes - his offense scored 10 points. Maybe he didn't throw 5 interceptions, but the last time I checked scoring 10 points isn't exactly a stellar performance. In fact, it's pretty unimpressive.

Again - congrats to the Giants. The team, especially the defense, turned in a great performance. Too bad it will be forever marred by an undeserving MVP award.

His offense scored 10 points and the greatest offense of all time, led by one of the greatest QB of all time scored 7 points (prior to the last drive). So what exactly are you trying to prove?

Perhaps you need to give credit to a good defense that has been effective all year in the red zone?