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Perknose

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despite 2 big injuries mets are still giving the braves all they can handle

Said it before and I'll say it again, I've been impressed with how the Mets have handled themselves despite a tsunami of key injuries this season.
 

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http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2011/08/07/chipper-hasnt-seen-a-team-this-good-since/

The Phillies woke up this morning with a 9 1/2 game lead over the Braves in the National League East, despite the Braves having the second-best record in the league and fourth-best record in baseball. That’s pretty impressive.

It’s even more impressive when you combine the leads of every other division leader in baseball:

AL East: 0 (tie for first)
AL Central: 4.
AL West: 1.
NL Central: 3.
NL West: 1/2 game.

That’s a combined 8 1/2 games for the other division leaders.

Mark Bowman covers the Braves for MLB.com and he passed along this quote from Braves third baseman Chipper Jones:
“The Phillies are as good as any team I’ve seen. I’d put them up against any of those Yankees clubs of the late ’90s and early 2000s. That club has got it going on and they are flat out playing like it, day in and day out.”

These days, it really is Always Sunny in Philadelphia!
 

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Lol, 4th game of the series and the Giants were previously 0 for 17 with runners in scoring position.

Sandoval on 2nd, and they get their first RISP hit on a misplayed, wind blown pop-up that Sandoval can't even advance on.

They Might Not be Giants!

Of course, now they've gotten two RISP hits in a row after the misplayed pop-up, and have tied the game and have the bases loaded with just one out, with the Freak up.
 
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Thank God the Giants won... the Phillies kicked our asses left and right. But feels good to avoid the sweep at home and finally get a win.
 

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Thank God the Giants won... the Phillies kicked our asses left and right. But feels good to avoid the sweep at home and finally get a win.

I still fear facing the Freak and Cain in any post-season series. Of course, they'd be going up against Doc and either Cliff or Cole, so . . .
 

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wow, good day for the mets. just lost murphy now too

Yeah rough day for the Mets. Whoever slid into Murphy needs to be sent back down, epic fail on getting his leg caught on the bag. Shame for Murphy to get injured by a nub.
 

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<sigh> Looks like Daniel Murphy is done for the season with a torn MCL. He won't require surgery. Who knows what'll happen with Reyes and still no news on whether Ike Davis will have surgery or just rest until next season. Seeing David Wright play shortstop was something else.. What a day.
 

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Classic Yankees/Sox...4 hours, 15 minutes. I don't know how anybody can put up with that.
 

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have to hand it to the mets, lose 2 good players and still have the fight to come back to win in bottom of 9th inning for walk off win
 

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have to hand it to the mets, lose 2 good players and still have the fight to come back to win in bottom of 9th inning for walk off win

It was nice to see them do that against Bell. Nice to see local Queens boy Mike Baxter get a hit (though the ball should have been caught). Mike Pelfrey is as frustrating as ever. I kinda had enough of him but the Mets will surely bring him back next season. After that I think he's a goner.
 

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pelfrey is confusing, he has some good outings then he has some bad ones. i think it was the 6th inning where he lost the 4-1 lead but other than that pitched pretty good game. the 8th inning was a mess too.
 

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Batboy tell-all: Secrets of the Yankees
By LUIS CASTILLO

Last Updated: 5:45 PM, August 7, 2011

Posted: 1:29 AM, August 7, 2011

At age 15, Luis Castillo lived every city kid's dream -- he became a batboy for the New York Yankees. From 1998 until 2005, he ran errands for A-Rod, caught warm-up pitches from Andy Pettitte and David Cone, bought beer for David Wells, shaved Roger Clemen's back, and partied with Ruben Sierra. As part of the last group of batboys who did not have to sign confidentiality agreements, Castillo is able to divulge Yankee secrets in his new memoir, "Clubhouse Confidential." Here are some of his favorite memories.

Opening Day 1998 is my first day on the job and I arrive at Yankee Stadium not knowing what to expect. Before long, a thin teenager with curly brown hair approached and introduced himself as Joe Lee. A former batboy for the Yankees, he was then a clubhouse assistant. After we shook hands, he said, "You know you can't start working here without being named."

Being named? I followed him back into the clubhouse, and the first player I met was Derek Jeter.

"Hi," I said. "My name is Luis Castillo."

Jeter frowned, narrowed his eyes, and said, "Nah."

I was thinking, no what? Why did he say no to me? But I didn't say anything, I just stood waiting. Jeter looked me up and down some more.

"That's it!" Jeter said. "Your nickname is Squeegee . . . You look like a squeegee." He smiled.

"What!"

"That's tradition," Joe Lee said, putting his arm around my shoulders and leading me away. "He names everybody. As leader of the team he has to give everyone nicknames."

"I got a strange one!" I said. But I never had a chance to ask Derek Jeter why he named me Squeegee. I knew what a squeegee man was, though. They're guys who clean car windows for money, wearing baggy clothes and white jumpers and looking skinny in their clothes. That's how my uniform looked that first day.

At least I had been initiated and was now an official member of the team.

DEREK JETER

Every time Jeter walked into the clubhouse in street clothes, he would breeze by the young batboys, and the 14- and 15-year-old clubhouse attendants, and greet them with an offhand "How're you doin', biatches?" Bee-atch-es. You'd turn around and say to yourself, Hunh? Was that Derek Jeter who waltzed past, the team captain, the man who is -- in the public eye -- a model of correctness and good taste?

But this greeting wasn't meant to annoy anyone; on the contrary, it was intended to be a funny way to start our workday together. There's no question in my mind that Jeter's easygoing personality traits -- the way he joked, teased and bonded with players -- were something extra, almost in contrast to the aggressive fielding that fans had come to expect.

One day, for instance, President Bill Clinton walked into the clubhouse with four Secret Service agents. This was after he had been out of office a few months, but everyone still acted as if he was the commander in chief. Players were saying, "Hello, Sir," and being polite as hell with him until Jeter -- in full uniform, on the way out to the game -- paused just long enough to say: "Hey, Mr. President, you staying out of trouble?"

Jeter didn't even stop to have a chat, he continued out to the field. The confused expression on Clinton's face said it all: Here was a man so shot up with confidence that even running into the president didn't make him miss a beat.

As for Jeter, staying out of trouble came naturally. When we went to bars you would find him sitting at a table with his personal trainer and a few other guys, sipping his drink. He would let his eyes play over the crowd, commenting only in the way his gaze lingered here and there on a woman he found attractive or interesting. His preference was for women who had a nice smile and personality.

But he never used the tricks of the trade, like other players did, to try to attract these women. After checking out the scene at a club, he would tell his personal trainer which girl he liked. He would ask the trainer to go up to the woman and tell her that THE Derek Jeter wanted to talk with her. Then he would leave the bar first and wait for her. I would often see groups of women giggling and leaving with the trainer, who would lead them to their rendezvous with the captain. In this way, Jeter avoided scandals and gossip and kept his meetings secret.

A-ROD

Because A-Rod was the leader or "the man" on other teams, he probably felt a need to compete with the leader of the Yankees; but here in New York this was Jeter's team and A-Rod had to take a back seat. Over time, however, A-Rod must have sensed that, despite their rivalry, there were things about Derek Jeter that were worth copying because Alex was a bitch like that.

I had to chuckle at how he aped the captain. For example, Jeter and some of the other guys were terrific tippers. Roger Clemens gave me $3,000 at the end of the year. Posada gave me $7,000. A-Rod might come in with $1,400. Sure, it's still a sizable amount, but when he found out that other players were tipping higher, he had to imitate them, and he bumped his tips up. In fact, he had to make sure he was the best tipper in the league. He even tipped me $100 a week to make sure there was a wine cooler waiting for him after each home game.

A-Rod irritated the other players because he was so high-maintenance. He required his personal assistant to position his toothbrush on a certain part of the sink, specifically the edge near the right-hand cold water tap, leaning with bristles up over the basin. The first time he ordered me to do this, I couldn't believe my ears when he said, "And put some toothpaste on it." He really was an asshole.

Probably the strangest thing we had to do for A-Rod was lay his clothes out on the table so he could get dressed. You had to lay out these items in a predetermined order: socks at the head of the table, followed by undershorts, undershirt, shirt, pants, shoes and then his stun gun. I had to carry his clothes from his locker to the trainer's room, where he liked to get dressed away from the prying eyes of the media.

A-Rod was different in another, childish way that made players laugh behind his back. When you watch games at home you sometimes see players come into the dugout after they hit a home run. If you've ever wondered what they're saying, it's usually things like "Way to go!" or "Good job!" Not A-Rod. After he hits a home run, he comes into the dugout and brags about it. Usually he's speaking Spanish to one of the other Latino players, and if he hit a home run he wouldn't shut up. "Wow, did you see I hit a home run?" he'd say. "That pitcher threw me a ball right over the plate and I smashed it over the fence. Did you ever see anything like that before?"

One cool evening we were in Boston and I saw him coming out of the Whiskey Park Bar, near the Public Garden. I happened to be wearing a suit because it was a swank watering hole and I was going to meet a couple of other players, including Bernie Williams. A-Rod was on his way out, with two blondes on his arms. When he saw me, his eyes lit up and he said, "Wow, look at you! I never saw you in a suit." As he passed he reached into the breast pocket of my jacket, and I thought he was rearranging my pocket square. "Have a good night," he said, breezing by with his lovebirds.

Since he was married at the time, I was under the impression that he was walking the ladies out to their car, or perhaps stepping outside to sign some autographs. Perhaps, gentleman that he was, Mr. Rodriguez was planning to escort these young women to their suites, or convey them to their chaperones.

At any rate, when I got to the bar I happened to look down into my breast pocket and was surprised to find two hundred-dollar bills.

THE BOSS

There was a love/hate relationship between the team and George Steinbrenner, which took its most outrageous form with the system we called the "Red Alert." It worked like this:

As soon as his car appeared, Rob Gomez, manager of stadium operations, picked up his walkie-talkie and punched in the code for the security officer on duty downstairs. As George got out of his car, Mr. Gomez relayed a message to Craig Foley, the security guard standing in front of the clubhouse.

"Red alert. Boss in the house."

Gomez would calmly turn, smile, and wave to the Boss. Upon receiving word that Steinbrenner had entered the elevator, Mr. Foley would stride down the hallway, open the clubhouse door, and sound the alarm.

"RED ALERT!"

Whoever was in the room -- whether it was batboys, coaches, trainers or players -- would spread the word to everyone else.

"RED ALERT!"

Called from man to man, player to player, room to room, the alarm would spread like wildfire. You would see clubbies jump out of their chair and hang up the same piece of underwear six times. You would see coaches put down newspapers and start scribbling notes on clipboards.

George would get out of the elevator and walk down the hall. When the clubhouse opened, everyone would be working -- and George would love it. You could tell by the big smile. The Red Alert system had worked again.

We could also have a little fun at the Boss' expense. Just before Game 5 of the 2000 World Series against the chump Mets, Fox News was setting up wires and microphones in the Mets' visiting clubhouse. If we won that game, we would win the series, and it would be big news. By the time they had everything squared away, they had done a professional job of using black tape to conceal all the wires so that nobody would get hurt.

After the seventh inning, George was looking pink in the face and nervous. The score was tied 2-2. David Cone, who wasn't pitching that day, happened to cross through the room. There was a mischievous twinkle in his eye. Spotting a microphone taped under the table, Cone stood looking at it. "Oh, my, my, my," he said, as if speaking to himself.

Steinbrenner approached.

"What's the matter?"

"Can you believe this?" Cone said. "Can you believe they'd do something like this -- "

"Like what?"

"Don't you see it? They taped a microphone under there."

"Who? Who taped a microphone?"

"The Mets."

"Are you ser--"

"They've got the room bugged."

"Holy crap!"

George was red in the face. The prankster had him going now, for sure, and Cone was having fun. For Cone, this was almost as good as winning games. George went nuts. He had taken the bait -- hook, line and sinker.

He started looking around for something, then turning to us, yelled, "Somebody get me a pair of scissors!" He wanted to cut the wire!

Yes, we were like a big family, and George was the father figure we all feared. Joe Torre used to take a lot of guff from him, but he never let it interfere with his game plan. "This is what the Boss wants," he would tell players in closed meetings. "But this is what we're going to do." And there would be smiles.

Matsui: Rally ho!

It was before Game 7 of the 2004 American League Championship Series, a game that we would lose. The series was tied 3-3 at that point, and it was particularly disheartening since we had won the first three games. Unknown to us, Boston's comeback was not to be stopped.

At any rate, at the end of the meeting it was traditional for Joe Torre to ask Jorge Posada what we were going to do. He would reply, "Grind it!" This time -- I guess to make Hideki Matsui feel more part of the team -- Torre turned to him at the end of the meeting.

"What are we going to do?"

Hideki paused for just a second before replying.

"Kick ass. Pop champagne. And get some ho's."

Joe dugout habit

Even during the rockiest and most difficult years of his being manager, Joe Torre was usually focused and kept his nose to the grindstone. There was only one thing that distracted him from work, however, and it wasn't women -- it was horses.

I found out about this quirk of his during a late-season game. Torre called me over in the dugout, and from the dark look on his face I thought it was something serious. He waited until I was close and then lowered his voice. "Go down to my office," he said. "I want you to check the score on the Off-Track Betting channel and see who won." I was stunned. It was during a game! I had never before been asked to leave my post.

"Make sure you find out the exact track and horse," he added.

I ran down into the clubhouse and found the attendant, Joe Lee.

"Joe, Mr. T just asked me to find out something about which horses won," I said. "What's he talking about?"

Lee was chewing gum and looked unimpressed about the whole thing. "Yeah," he said. "Don't you know why he's got that TV in his office? It's usually just tuned to one channel."

"What's that, the YES Network?"

"No, the OTB station."

Lee led me into Torre's office and showed me how to decipher the race results. I jogged up to the dugout and gave them to Torre, who grabbed the paper and studied it like his life depended on it. When he had discovered the information he wanted, he turned to Don Zimmer and showed it to him. The older man's eyes lit up, and before I left they were talking excitedly not about the next batter but the OTB results!


From "Clubhouse Confidential" by Luis "Squeegee" Castillo with William Cane. Copyright &#169; 2011 by the author and reprinted by permission of St. Martin's Press LLC.
 

Perknose

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Wait! A-Rod's an asshole? I had no idea!
 

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They were skewering ARod on MLB XM Radio this weekend. Apparently ARod was already warned in 2005 about high stakes gambling and he doesn't learn. The best was "The Yankees don't need ARod to win. Just get rid of this cancer who cannot follow the rules set by MLB." And it's true, NY has done just fine without him. He consistently has show a disregard for the rules and it's only a matter of time before the timebomb explodes.
 

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They were skewering ARod on MLB XM Radio this weekend. Apparently ARod was already warned in 2005 about high stakes gambling and he doesn't learn. The best was "The Yankees don't need ARod to win. Just get rid of this cancer who cannot follow the rules set by MLB." And it's true, NY has done just fine without him. He consistently has show a disregard for the rules and it's only a matter of time before the timebomb explodes.

Not disagreeing, but how in the hell can even the Yankees get rid of A-Rod, who in 2007 signed a 10 year contract worth $275 million? They would probably have to eat a lot of that money to move him, and that assumes a willing trading partner.

Sometimes I wonder how things would be different if he had stayed here in Seattle all this time. Would the introversion, laid back attitude, and mild manners of the Pacific Northwest have rubbed off on him eventually, keeping him out of some of these situations?

I kind of doubt it, but interesting to wonder. I think it comes down to A-Rod being one of those guys who is always looking for greener pastures and a brighter lime light.
 

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They were skewering ARod on MLB XM Radio this weekend. Apparently ARod was already warned in 2005 about high stakes gambling and he doesn't learn. The best was "The Yankees don't need ARod to win. Just get rid of this cancer who cannot follow the rules set by MLB." And it's true, NY has done just fine without him. He consistently has show a disregard for the rules and it's only a matter of time before the timebomb explodes.

I don't think they can find another taker for him, not without eating a huge portion of his salary. Out of all the contracts the Yankees have handed out, A-Rod's ranks up there on the scale.
 

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So many ways to hate A-Rod? Not!

From poker to payroll to PEDs, there's too much antipathy toward a Yankee star who works as hard as anyone in baseball

Major League Baseball said that Alex Rodriguez would not be suspended but &#8220;he will be warned again&#8221; about playing in illegal poker games.By Jelisa Castrodale
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updated 10:58 a.m. ET Aug. 9, 2011


&#8220;There&#8217;s nothing [Alex Rodriguez] is doing that violates the morals clause,&#8221; an anonymous baseball attorney said in 2005. &#8220;Mostly it&#8217;s just stupid. Why put himself in a position like that? Why doesn&#8217;t he go play [poker] in an apartment somewhere?&#8221;

Or in a Beverly Hills mansion. Last week, Star magazine took a break from sifting through J-Lo&#8217;s garbage to report that the Yankees slugger made an appearance at a &#8220;high stakes underground poker game where cocaine was openly used" and to dump several speculative paragraphs suggesting that Rodriguez and unsanctioned card games are still as inseparable as a pair of face cards.

To me, the biggest revelation in Star&#8217;s story wasn&#8217;t that Tobey Maguire is still considered an A-lister; it&#8217;s the amount of virtual ink dedicated to a hand of Texas Hold &#8216;Em that happened TWO YEARS AGO. This story would&#8217;ve been buried below a detailed analysis of Julia Roberts' forehead creases, if not for the alleged appearance of Alex Rodriguez at the table ... again.

Major League Baseball announced on Monday that Rodriguez would not be suspended but &#8220;he will be warned again&#8221; &#8212; a reference to their 2005 suggestion that he avoid clay chips and dudes who wear visors indoors&#8212;&#8220;and not lightly&#8221;.

Although MLB hates gamblers like Pete Rose hates Bart Giamatti, A-Rod&#8217;s poker game wouldn't be illegal in most states and in-home games are rarely prosecuted. This is only a straight-flush- sized deal because Rodriguez seemingly ignored a warning from half a decade ago and because &#8212; for some &#8212; it provides another example of A-Rod being A-Rod being A-Rrogant.

After eight seasons in New York, Rodriguez remains the most polarizing man in pinstripes, alternately celebrated as one of the all-time All-Stars and ridiculed as a consistent punchline. He&#8217;s an admitted steroid user. He&#8217;s constructed a public persona that, somehow, is equal parts clumsy and overconfident. And he always wears a pinched, petulant expression that I&#8217;d guess is a side effect from spending a chunk of your career under a microscope that sits beneath a much bigger microscope.

At best, he&#8217;s the Goofus to Derek Jeter&#8217;s Gallant. At worst, he&#8217;s Voldemort with a bottomless bank account and better bone structure.

The past week has illustrated that the only thing bigger than the NY stitched on the front of Rodriguez&#8217; jersey is the target that&#8217;s been taped on the back, whether it was the frenzy over the (TWO YEAR OLD!) poker game or a just-released batboy autobiography, which made more than one clunkily-written attempt to cast Rodriguez in an unflattering light.

In Clubhouse Confidential, former Yankees batboy Luis &#8220;Squeegee&#8221; Castillo complained about A-Rod being &#8220;childish&#8221;, &#8220;high maintenance&#8221;, "a dick", and a lousy tipper (before noting that Rodriguez &#8220;had to make sure he was the highest tipper in the league&#8221. He said that Rodriguez wanted his post-game clothes to be laid out in order, from socks to shoes with &#8220;undershorts&#8221; in the middle and sweet lord what kind of monster starts with his socks?

Seriously? As one Hardball Talk commenter noted &#8220;These are all things that I would probably do if I were a rich and famous Yankee.&#8221;

So what does Castillo&#8217;s book prove? That you shouldn&#8217;t trust a man named for a cleaning product. That no matter what Rodriguez does, it&#8217;s wrong. And that Derek Jeter dishes out crappy nicknames.

Like ...

A-Fraud? I&#8217;m pretty sure Jeter didn&#8217;t come up with that one, although nobody&#8217;s name has been rearranged in more unflattering ways than Rodriguez.

A-Tightwad? That&#8217;s a stretch, especially since he was giving Castillo a Benjamin a day.

Pay-Rod? All of the A-Rod based scorn can&#8217;t be about the money, not anymore. Back in 2000, when his signature was still drying on that ten year, $252 million contract, the one that took his annual salary from $4.25 million to $25 million, it was. His contract more than doubled the second-richest signing &#8212; that of Rockies pitcher Mike Hampton &#8212; and was worth more than the estimated value of 18 teams. Then-Padres GM Kevin Towers called it &#8220;a sad day for baseball.&#8221;

That might have been the first sad day, but it wasn&#8217;t the last. Payrolls have become as swollen as CC Sabathia&#8217;s midsection. (And his contract: 7 years, $161 million). So, sorry, the money&#8217;s not the issue anymore.

A-Roid? Yeah, he&#8217;s a steroid user, as are 103 other players whose names were typed on a supposed-to-be-confidential list that was selectively leaked onto the internet.

Is it disappointing to think that three of his best seasons &#8212; the ones where he set career marks in home runs (57), RBI (142) and won his first AL MVP award &#8212; were powered by whatever chemicals were injected into his bloodstream? Absolutely. But if you aren&#8217;t already disappointed by the soaring stats and swollen biceps from the early 00s, you haven&#8217;t been paying attention.

I&#8217;m not defending his Boli-period, but the biggest difference between A-Rod and those 100-odd other guys is that he&#8217;s the only one to go on the record and admit that he did it. In a stilted confession to ESPN&#8217;s Peter Gammons, Rodriguez said he was sorry a dozen times and called himself stupid nine more.

Of the seven players whose names were leaked &#8212; and this doesn&#8217;t include anyone from the Mitchell Report Class of 2007 &#8212; only Rodriguez and Red Sox DH David Ortiz are still active. Ortiz didn&#8217;t suffer the same scorn, endure the same head-shaking, finger-wagging and hand-wringing directed at Rodriguez, despite issuing a statement that said only that he was &#8220;surprised to learn [he] tested positive.&#8221;

Rodriguez&#8217; ESPN-filmed PR-move doesn&#8217;t give him a pass for cheating or for lying about it, like when he solemnly told Katie Couric that any player with positive steroid tests would be a &#8220;huge black eye on the game of baseball.&#8221; It was. It is. Rodriguez didn&#8217;t throw the first punch, but he &#8212; along with countless others &#8212; kicked it while it was writhing on the ground.

Le-Rod? No, comparing A-Rod to LeBron is ridiculous, since A-Rod has A-Ring and James&#8217; fingers are still as empty as Jennifer Aniston&#8217;s.

A-Plod? Nope. Totally inaccurate. Even former manager Joe Torre, who complained in his book about A-Rod &#8220;monopolizing all the attention&#8221; still said that he &#8220;hasn&#8217;t been around anyone who works harder&#8221; than Rodriguez.

That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t understand the scorn that occasionally comes from the home section of Yankee Stadium. When he&#8217;s on the field, Rodriguez goes all out every day. Age and injuries might have started to slowly erode the definition of &#8220;all out&#8221; but, when he&#8217;s healthy, he never gives less than everything.

Rodriguez is the anti-J.D. Drew, Boston&#8217;s overpaid (5 years, $70 million), underproducing right fielder, the one whose face always looks like he's in the middle of a prostate exam and who plays with the excitement of a ficus tree.

ACL-Rod? Rodriguez is rumored to make his first minor league rehab appearance Friday, which would be his first action since having arthroscopic surgery on his knee. In the 80 games before he went on the DL, Rodriguez was batting .295/.366/.485, which are actually better numbers than his .270/.341/.506 line from last season.

The Yankees are 18-9 in his absence and one game behind Boston in the AL East. Although no timetable has been set for his return to Yankee Stadium, you have to believe that being out of the Boroughs during the non-issue issue of Pokergate had to help.

He didn&#8217;t have to play through it, but you know that he would have. I'd bet on it.
 

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The difference between Ortiz and A-Rod is their personality. Ortiz wants to be liked, seen ESPN lately and all the commercials he's been doing? A-Rod would rather hang out with rich criminals and snort coke off a picture of Bud Selig. Ortiz interacts with fans, lives a clean life, while A-Rod is caught playing high stakes gambling with mafia figures (and cheating on his wife in public before he was divorced).

A-Rod may be all business on the field but he oozes "sleazeball". Ortiz oozes likable teddy bear family guy. Both may have done roids but Ortiz has bettered himself since then. Even funnier, although ARod has a ring, he still carries the choker stigma in the media. Probably unfair (small sample size) but I bet that if he tried to clean up his image as a fun loving family guy (like Ortiz) the media wouldn't be up his ass 24/7 trying to slander him. He is an easy target: sleazeball gambling millionaire primadonna choker who used to juice, cheat on his ex-wife in public, and still has his old steroid drug runner in the Yankee clubhouse. The only common thread to Ortiz is juicing, otherwise it's night and day. Nobody can relate to the guy and he's always making the headlines for the wrong reasons.
 

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Quick - how many MLB players have been busted for drinking and driving this season?
It's not big news and something that most people wouldn't know but the answer is 6.

But I'm sure fans of the game have heard of Pokergate. You know, that big expose by STAR MAGAZINE about A-Rod taking part in a legal poker game at some LA Mansion. The source of the story said A-Rod wasn't at the game (in fact, he WAS playing poker at that year's WS of Poker event) but who cares? It's A-Rod! The fucker causes cancer and rapes children! Remember when he saved that kid from getting mauled by a bear by ripping its cock and balls off? Okay, he only grabbed a kid and prevented him by getting hit by a truck but it wasn't big news. But a poker game with COCAINE and GUNS and CATS and DOGS having SEX gets talked about for a week.
Because it's A-Rod.

 

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I don't remember ARod doing any of that, but he did do this:


He may be a hard worker but he also plays the game like a moron. Quick, when was the last time you've seen a player blatantly slap at someone's glove since then? Zero. He earned his reputation long before the media got a hold of him. NY needs to get rid of him while he still has value. Some starting pitching sure would be nice. How long til the wheels fall off of their old men (Burnett, Colon, Garcia)? Could happen at any moment. Sell high.
 
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