-=Official Bad Company 2 thread=-

[SR1729]

So far I'm not really feeling this game. When you find a good match with players who get it, it's awesome.. but most assholes just take vehicles and don't wait for anyone else or just don't even try to give a shit about the objectives. It's like 90/10 shitty to fun games right now. I'll try to play with some of you guys since I'm betting you all aren't like that.

I don't think it's that slanted, but I certainly get what you're saying. I find myself in more games where everyone is "on task" than not, but it's frustrating as hell when they're not. Was in one game last night where half our team was sniping. Frustrating.

The consequences of this behavior are much more pronounced in Rush. In Conquest, this can actually work to your personal advantage, especially when it's happening on both teams: you get to point whore.

 

[bucwylde23]

I don't think it's that slanted, but I certainly get what you're saying. I find myself in more games where everyone is "on task" than not, but it's frustrating as hell when they're not. Was in one game last night where half our team was sniping. Frustrating.

The consequences of this behavior are much more pronounced in Rush. In Conquest, this can actually work to your personal advantage, especially when it's happening on both teams: you get to point whore.

I played for a few hours last night and had a ton of fun. For the most part every squad I got into wasn't TOO bad.
I still play mostly recon and I try to get into a good spot where my team can spawn on me and get right back into the action. I get a lot of points by spotting enemies and calling in mortar strikes. I hate the people who snipe and sit so far back from the action that they are worthless.

 

[Platypus]

I don't think it's that slanted, but I certainly get what you're saying. I find myself in more games where everyone is "on task" than not, but it's frustrating as hell when they're not. Was in one game last night where half our team was sniping. Frustrating.

The consequences of this behavior are much more pronounced in Rush. In Conquest, this can actually work to your personal advantage, especially when it's happening on both teams: you get to point whore.

I played for about 3-4 hours on Saturday and seriously every single Rush game I joined was like this aside from a few choice games. You're right, it's actually kind of nice in Conquest from a score perspective but it still kinda ruins the point of the game.

 

[greydumplin]

Anyone up for setting up a night like Forza/MW2 night?

if its for the 360 version im down. Thats my FPS of choice now hands down. The game really changes once you unlock red dot and 4x scope. My gosh I am owning even more with those scopes.

 

[greydumplin]

KABOB You know you love the game. admit it. but for the love of God man, where in the world is your mic????

 

[bucwylde23]

if its for the 360 version im down. Thats my FPS of choice now hands down. The game really changes once you unlock red dot and 4x scope. My gosh I am owning even more with those scopes.

I'm up for a BFBC2 night as well. I've sold my copy of MW2 so I wont be able to participate in that game night, so a Battlefield game night sounds awesome

 

[GCS]

Luray, VA. If you've never heard of it, 30 min north of JMU.

Us Virginians need to stick together

Yep I know where you are, not too far but not too close either.



So I spent some time with the game from about Friday on. It's not bad but it's not great either. All comments are based on SP Campaign only as I have not been online for MP yet.

Controls -- hate them but I will get used to it eventually I guess. It's not just a MW2 issue its that it doesn't feel natural to me is all, I can't explain exactly why but I have to think of how to perform an action vs just doing it. I also think its complete BS that you cannot go prone. That's just dumb.

Graphics - I think they are fine. Could be better, could be a whole lot worse. There are quite a few graphical glitches just like in MW2 but I guess that is just par for the course with video games.

Sound - Its pretty good but nothing spectacular but then again I am simply playing on TV speakers not surround sound.

Storyline - Pretty good so far IMHO (I am inside the ship in the desert). I hate all the cut scenes. I mean I enjoy getting filled in but damn I feel like I have to watch a cut scene every few mins so I could do with less of them to be honest.

Gameplay - It's ok. Like I said its not bad but its not the end all be all of the world either (as some would lead you to believe) MW2 isn't this either. I do not like that you really can't shoot from the hip very well. You really do need to bring up the weapon and aim. I also HATE the aiming for rockets, RPGs etc it is awful and bringing down any weapon to look around and find the chopper etc takes forever and reloading an RPG my goodness I could eat lunch take a piss and call my wife before its reloaded. Is it better/worse than MW2 for the campaign -- I honestly don't remember. The look and feel of the game is completely different from MW2 and thus takes a lot to get used to. Do I think its better or worse than MW2, nope just different.

I will say the nice big maps are a welcomed change though as well as the destructible buildings cars etc, MW2 could definitely take some cues from this game in that area (my guess the next install of MW will have this).

I do like working with my squad but they are basically useless to be honest. They rarely ever "kill" anyone. I can be taking out other guys and my team is shooting other guys and they never go down so I always have go back and finish the job. The AI is TERRIBLE in the game. I cannot tell you how many times my team decides to jump in front of my line of fire. Also since when do bad guys just stand out in the open shooting at you, ever heard of cover??

Anyway those are some random thoughts so far. I do want to try MP but not with the GP. I need to find a team to hook up with for this so if anyone is interested in having me along for a while I would appreciate it. Just lmk when you want to get together and I will see what I can do.

Thanks

Greg

 

[bucwylde23]

I'll be playing probably a lot between this thursday-sunday, i'll send an invite if I see ya

 

[Platypus]

I agree with a lot of that GCS, the biggest deal breaker for me in this game is the controls... they just seem awful/sloppy in comparison to other games in the genre.

The reload times and the inability to easily kill helicopters are pretty annoying but liveable.

I do really like the gameplay as far as the maps though, I like long 15 min + games that take teamwork. It just seems hard to come by.

Aside from the controls, my other gripe are the multiplayer games. The game seems to reward people who are not actually playing the game. In Rush for example, to my knowledge you don't get any points for disarming a bomb. WTF? You get points for setting one, but not disabling one. What incentive is there to even stay and guard the bomb other than the easy kills (they come to you)? Because of that, no one even bothers trying to disarm bombs. I was the only person in the 2 hours I played last night who even seemed to give a shit about defending the objectives at all, let alone disarming the bombs once set.

The game is really fun when you get a good squad, but pretty much the opposite of fun when not. Combine that with the slowest respawn time ever and it just makes for a frustrating experience. It's hard not to compare this to MW2 so I'll try to leave that at a minimum but I have 10x more fun playing MW2 multiplayer. This game will definitely get played as long as I can find a reliable group of people to play it with who aren't just trying to level up their characters at the sacrafice of playing the fucking game.

So in closing, if you see me playing this, please add me!

 

[GCS]

Yeah I would be happy to hook up with some of you guys for some BC MP. I have a feeling that I am going to like the game a lot more from this aspect. Afterall what I like most about our MW2 nights is when we can be a team and take on other guys. Of course main point of BC2 is the team aspect so it should shine on the MP side.

Greg

 

[greydumplin]

Gamertag: GDWADADLI for some 360 fun... Don't know how ppl like the squad deathmatch. My gosh that mode sucks. Its like the camping in MW2 times 50 bazillion. Stick to the Rush and Conquest to keep your sanity.

Satisfying moments.

Getting a Triple Kill, Vehicle kill, Vehicle Damage + bonuses from an AT Mine.
Getting a Triple Kill, Vehicle kill, Vehicle Damage + bonuses from planting C4.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

How are the controls awful/sloppy? They aren't even that different...

 

[oznerol]

How are the controls awful/sloppy? They aren't even that different...

I find myself mixing up the knife/grenade buttons fairly often, and the same for the L/R D-pad selections for special items. But I don't play a ton - still would prefer the ability to customize the buttons.

As far as getting a "good" game with random players - it's been hit or miss for me.

But what I really like is that someone like me, who plays sparingly and isn't particularly great - can get in and immediately contribute to the squad. I never enjoyed the Call of Duty multiplayer, mainly because I suck. In these games, though, I can easily play a support class and really help out the squad without having to be great at just killing people.

And my favorite part about this game is that a squad of mediocre players, playing like a squad, will tear up a squad of great players who do their own thing. I played with 3 of my friends who are also pretty bad at MW2 and the like, but we were consistently winning game after game because we focused on the objectives and picking distinct classes.

 

[Platypus]

How are the controls awful/sloppy? They aren't even that different...

It's not even the mappings, it's the movement.

The response is awful on the movement stick in my opinion, I find myself getting stuck on textures or having trouble walking into buildings. It's like there is a slight lag or something.. it just feels really sloppy, like you have to move exactly right or it is slightly off.

 

[biggestmuff]

It's not even the mappings, it's the movement.

The response is awful on the movement stick in my opinion, I find myself getting stuck on textures or having trouble walking into buildings. It's like there is a slight lag or something.. it just feels really sloppy, like you have to move exactly right or it is slightly off.

If you believe it's bad, then it's bad for every other player out there. They all seem to be adapting, why can't you?

 

[Tristicus]

It's not even the mappings, it's the movement.

The response is awful on the movement stick in my opinion, I find myself getting stuck on textures or having trouble walking into buildings. It's like there is a slight lag or something.. it just feels really sloppy, like you have to move exactly right or it is slightly off.

What? If you want "pinpoint accuracy", go to PC. I've never had trouble walking into a building, and I've never got stuck on a "texture" (How is that possible?).

 

[Platypus]

MW2 has far better controls, it's not even close.
They are much more responsive.

If you don't agree there's really no reason to get uptight about it...

 

[SR1729]

I have to agree MW2's controls feel "tighter" (and I hate that you can't run at an angle in BC2; makes me feel like I'm running on rails). It's not even close to a deal breaker for me, though. MW2 is just such a maddening experience for me. People are playing BC2 according to the spirit of the game; this cannot at all be said for MW2.

Now, this isn't a consequence of either crowd's superior character, it's a consequence of superior game design.

 

[Platypus]

I have to agree MW2's controls feel "tighter" (and I hate that you can't run at an angle in BC2; makes me feel like I'm running on rails). It's not even close to a deal breaker for me, though. MW2 is just such a maddening experience for me. People are playing BC2 according to the spirit of the game; this cannot at all be said for MW2.

Now, this isn't a consequence of either crowd's superior character, it's a consequence of superior game design.

Maybe that's what it is, I can't quite pinpoint it but the running on rails is a PERFECT description of how the controls feel to me.

MW2 pisses me off equally as much with people not playing the game in the spirit it was intended. I actually played some great BC2 games last night on Rush that were really fun. I had a game that felt like it lasted 30 min and came down to the very last second. That kind of thing is amazing and definitely lacking from something like MW2.

 

[SR1729]

Is it just me or do people not communicate in this game at all? When you talk, are you talking to your entire team or just your squad? Would be cool if you could toggle.

 

[greydumplin]

if im not mistaken its squad only and your right ppl dont talk on this game which sucks. Thats why you play with people you know in RL.

 

[James Bond]

My friends and I are absolutely loving BC2. We only play together, but there are always at least a few of us on since most of us work 9-5. We're all totally hooked.

The sprinting (on rails) can be a little annoying at first. It's something I got used to quickly and is now just a game mechanic for me. I'm assuming they did this since you have unlimited sprint, but who knows.

I'm realizing how fun each class can be, and as someone above pointed out, how useful they can be even for an adept player. Last night as Medic I literally did nothing but sprint from dead body to dead body. I lead the team by a LOT. Kill/Death ratio != win in this game at all.

Here's my new routine on rush:
At the beginning of the map I use engineer. Both on offense or defense.

If offense, then I get in the biggest tank I can find (as gunner) and go into battle, repairing whenever we take damage. Having a good driver is important, and by good, I mean not some retard who goes straight into the middle of the other teams base at full speed. It's important to move in slowly as defenses are gradually depleted.

If I'm on defense, I use my AT mines and sprint as far as I can (without being in danger), and throw mines all over the place. *Note: Mines will stay even after you die or even change class!!! I got like 300 points yesterday for a destroyed vehicle as MEDIC from a tank hitting an AT mine*. After I die, I change to either assault or medic, depending on how close to the bomb sites they are. The closer to the bomb sites, the more healing that can be done quickly and efficiently.

I rarely use recon. I'm not a recon hater, it just seems that only about 1% of snipers actually do their job. If you play sniper a lot, the most important thing you can do is mark, mark, mark. Hit select constantly. You will accidently mark people and its a huge help. In addition to that, make sure to be calling in air strikes and use tracer if possible.

I'll post more later!

Another side note:
Assault and smoke grenades = <3. I swear, a few smoke grenades can change the entire course of a game SO fast. I see the SAME thing happening over and over on rush: The attacking team will take one site, but they will be stuck and have trouble taking the 2nd bomb site. So what happens? Half the team switches to recon and tries to pick off random dudes.... ooook, well, wow, that doesn't help anything at all. A few guys will select assault and try to gun people down... but ZERO progress is made. Here's what you do: Lay down an ammo container, and spam like 5 smoke grenades. Run into the bombsite, plant bomb, and start owning fools.

Try it, it seriously does wonders. At the very least, don't keep doing the same non-working shit over and over...

 

[RedRooster]

I'm currently sporting a fancy .7 k/d ratio, and LOVING this game. Conquest is such an epic mode, just like a hockey game of back and forth and back and forth until one side gets a little bit of momentum then it just all starts flowing.
The controls are perfect to me, controlling like a person and not a floating camera. You can't really run in an angle in real life, so the rail thing is more real than controlling your feet and your torso completely seperately(like that other game). Weapons have weight and take that extra little bit of time to swing around and aim. Everything feels much more real to me and that bit of give in the controls is like what I'd expect if I was controlling a guy with 80lbs of gear and running on rough terrain the entire time.
I completely suck at this game, and its still fun. That says lots about the game I'd say.

 

[SR1729]

my friends and i are absolutely loving bc2. We only play together, but there are always at least a few of us on since most of us work 9-5. We're all totally hooked.

The sprinting (on rails) can be a little annoying at first. It's something i got used to quickly and is now just a game mechanic for me. I'm assuming they did this since you have unlimited sprint, but who knows.

I'm realizing how fun each class can be, and as someone above pointed out, how useful they can be even for an adept player. Last night as medic i literally did nothing but sprint from dead body to dead body. I lead the team by a lot. Kill/death ratio != win in this game at all.

Here's my new routine on rush:
At the beginning of the map i use engineer. Both on offense or defense.

If offense, then i get in the biggest tank i can find (as gunner) and go into battle, repairing whenever we take damage. Having a good driver is important, and by good, i mean not some retard who goes straight into the middle of the other teams base at full speed. It's important to move in slowly as defenses are gradually depleted.

If i'm on defense, i use my at mines and sprint as far as i can (without being in danger), and throw mines all over the place. *note: Mines will stay even after you die or even change class!!! I got like 300 points yesterday for a destroyed vehicle as medic from a tank hitting an at mine*. After i die, i change to either assault or medic, depending on how close to the bomb sites they are. The closer to the bomb sites, the more healing that can be done quickly and efficiently.

I rarely use recon. I'm not a recon hater, it just seems that only about 1% of snipers actually do their job. If you play sniper a lot, the most important thing you can do is mark, mark, mark. Hit select constantly. You will accidently mark people and its a huge help. In addition to that, make sure to be calling in air strikes and use tracer if possible.

I'll post more later!

Another side note:
Assault and smoke grenades = <3. I swear, a few smoke grenades can change the entire course of a game so fast. I see the same thing happening over and over on rush: The attacking team will take one site, but they will be stuck and have trouble taking the 2nd bomb site. So what happens? Half the team switches to recon and tries to pick off random dudes.... Ooook, well, wow, that doesn't help anything at all. A few guys will select assault and try to gun people down... But zero progress is made. Here's what you do: Lay down an ammo container, and spam like 5 smoke grenades. Run into the bombsite, plant bomb, and start owning fools.

Try it, it seriously does wonders. At the very least, don't keep doing the same non-working shit over and over...

this!

 

[Tristicus]

I've only got 21 hours and haven't played in a few days and I already feel I've got my full $60 worth. Could be how much I played in the beta too...