*** OFFICIAL BATMAN BEGINS THREAD ***

[Maleix]

I hated all previous Batman's and absolutely loved this one.

 

[Attrox]

Originally posted by: RadioHead84
hmmm all i can say is wow.

That is possibly the best batman ever..and a great movie overal. I put it high on the top list of movies i have ever seen. It was a lot darker then the other ones and i like how it just threw evertying out from the old ones and started a new. Some great lines, Great acting, great story, and no over dramatic special effects.

The only thing i didnt like about the movie..which i have to say..i still enjoyed were the fight scene cameras. You will knwo what i mean when you see it..the camera always seems like its way too close to the action and is constantly moving. You never get a full shot of whats going on. Now I know this makes sense in the way that batman is...you know..in the shadows and all. But still I would have liked to see a little more of the actual combat then just seeing two people wrestle most of the time.

STILL GREAT THO. and if you like batman at all there are tons of moments where you just want to say "Oh hell yes".

It got an applaus after it was over

Please tell me they are not using moving camera style like in the Bourne Supremacy?

 

[substance12]

Originally posted by: brigden
I feel a lot of the complaints are ungrounded.

This film is not a prequel. It does not have anything to do with any Batman film before it. The four films before it are unrelated.

The Joker did not kill Wayne's parents in the comic book. Burton dreamed up that idea. Joe Chill was responsible for Wayne's parents murder and it went down nearly exactly as it was descibed over sixty years ago.

Obviously, Batman is in the infancy of his career. Both the Batmobile and the Batcave will evolve as he grows. Having a ready-made Batmobile with Bat-wing fins a la Tim Burton would have been too unrealistic. I think the "Tumbler" was perfect.

The "close-up, blurry" fight scenes make sense. One, they're more intense, and two, watching Batman neatly take down a group of thugs while being treated to a full and steady shot of his costume takes some of the mystique away. I'm pretty sure the filmmakers tried filming the fight scenes neatly but realized that it looked akward.

The acting was perfect; Bale was without doubt the most convincing Wayne/Batman. The visuals were perfect too; there wasn't too much CG (thank God). The only gripe I have is that there wasn't a better musical score. I realize that the music can become a character in the film (like Elfman's '89 score) and the filmmakers probably wanted to avoid the epic, but a decent theme would have been nice.

Overall, this movie was for the fans. It isn't as accessible as, say, Spider-Man, but I'm glad they made a Batman film for the fans and not necessarily just for the masses.

I honestly think it was the best movie I've ever seen.

I agree with most of what was said. This movie was about Batman's origin. I think people came in expecting superhero vs supervillian. I think a lot of people's expectations were way off base. For anyone who has been following BB since it's conception, you would have not have gone in with low expecations. While it pains me to do so, I have to understand that not everyone is aware of the Batman history. I put a lot more weight on hommage to the comic (the true batman) vs whether or not I felt the fight scenes were up to par.

The previous films really twisted people's views as I've read in this thread. It pisses me off that some think BB is the bastard while the others are the truth. It was said before, this film is a reboot (that was straight from David Goyer's mouth at comicon), not a prequel.

someone had said the cast was whatever. are you serious? this cast was stacked. Caine, Freeman, Bale, Oldman, Murphy. gg.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

very awesome movie

also, katie holmes nipples >>>>>> batman suit nipples

 

[PhaZe]

No attrox, it's not as bad as bourne supremecy. that movie gave me a headache.

i think my dad threw up in the middle of it.

:>

 

[Attrox]

Originally posted by: PhaZe
No attrox, it's not as bad as bourne supremecy. that movie gave me a headache.

i think my dad threw up in the middle of it.

:>

Same here, I was holding it til the end of the movie and ran to the toilet to puke :|
Remember the hand to hand fighting scene in the Bourne Supremacy? Is it like that? The fight was awesome, gave me big freaking headache, but awesome!

 

[UTmtnbiker]

Saw it last night. Liked it a lot. 'Nuff said about the movie.

As far as Katie Holmes goes....whenever I see her now, I only think of her bewbies from The Gift. Mind you, it's a good image, but once it starts, well, there's nothing else going on in my mind.

 

[Insomniak]

I can never take ex-WB actors/actresses seriously.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: Insomniak
I can never take ex-WB actors/actresses seriously.

Michelle Williams was a very talented WB actress.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Okaz. Eventhough I need to pack tonight, I think you all have convinced me to see this tonight.

 

[Turkish]

Yes you do. I am thinking of seeing it again on Saturday

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: VIAN

What mysteriousness did Batman have in the previous films? You mean as to his past? I guess if you never read any of the comics nor watched the cartoons, that might be true. Or did you mean his tendency to keep in the shadows, as opposed to an insane million-dollars-in-damage caught on TV car chase?

His past. Don't forget that in Batman, Batman also ran through the streets in gotham, just didn't destroy things. He also did it in Batman Returns. I just so happens that I've never read the comics. Keaton always had this look of ponder on his face, where he dwelled on the past. It gave you reaons why is the way he is. And even after all this time, he is still troubled by them.

Wasn't there a scene in Batman Returns with a lot of cop cars getting destroyed as they tried to chase down the Batmobile?

 

[NFS4]

Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

You suck.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: NFS4
Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

You suck.

Wah Wah, someone doesn't agree with you.

I'm sorry, but the fast cutting fight scenes make me want to go into convulsions. It's the same sh!t they pulled in The Bourne Identity/Supremacy.

Don't get me wrong, the movie was good, but I expected more. I was bored throughout alot of the movie and Katie Holmes was pretty pathetic. There were moments of brilliance, but it lacked a cohesive glue to hold it all together.

The musical score was also lacking. None of the brilliance of master Elfman.

I personally think that Morgan Freeman stole the show.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: NFS4
Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

You suck.

I concur. Anyone who prefers another Batman movie to Batman Begins must be a Batman movies fan, not a true Batman fan.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: The Boss

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: NFS4
Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

You suck.

I concur. Anyone who prefers another Batman movie to Batman Begins must be a Batman movies fan, not a true Batman fan.

You're right. I'm a fan of the first two movies (fvck the last two). Never read the comics, but was intrigued by the first Batman and it STILL is my favorite movie.

Michael Keaton IS Batman as far as I'm concerned and Bale did an excellent job. I just prefer Keaton.

There is just something about the chemistry of the characters in the original Batman that just worked. I didn't see any of that going on between characters in this film. Some of the Gordon <-> Batman interaction seemed a bit too forced. Same goes for Bruce <-> Alfred. Subtle attempts at humor were also lost on me in the movie. Moments that were supposed to get a rise out of the audience didn't do a damn thing. The only consistency with the audience seemed to be that everyone loved the Morgan Freeman's character and his dialogue.

I haven't read the comics, so maybe I didn't know that Scarecrow was supposed to come across as a little annoying prick.

I'll just have to wait til the next movie to see what kind of baddies they throw in b/c as far as I'm concerned, there's no way in HELL they can top Jack Nicholson as The Joker. He was MADE for that role. Sadistic bastard

 

[maddogchen]

Michael Caine is the best Alfred EVAR!!! He blows all the other Alfreds away. If they ever make another Batman movie, he must come back to play Alfred. That is all.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: The Boss

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: NFS4
Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

You suck.

I concur. Anyone who prefers another Batman movie to Batman Begins must be a Batman movies fan, not a true Batman fan.

This is a thread for Batman Begins .... A MOVIE

 

[Reckoner]

***SPOILER***




One thing I don't understand is..

When all those people in Gotham were exposed to the scarecrow's concoction, how did they get cured? That little vial of vaccine that Morgan Freeman gave to Batman couldn't have been enough for the ENTIRE city.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: The Boss

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: NFS4
Just got back from seeing it with my dad.

**Note, Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time...PERIOD. End of discussion**

That being said, I thought this movie was decent but left me wanting mostly. It just didn't "click" with me the way the original did when I saw it at age 9. This one seemed sorta meh and the fast cutting fight scenes were enough to drive my batty. Bale had the whole cocky, I'm mad at the world attitude going on, but he just can't top Keaton.

And the baddies in this movie? Puhlease. They can't even come close to touching Jack in the original.

But by far, the WORST offense in the whole movie was when he first said "I'm Batman!" It was so horrible I wanted to puke my brains out.

That being said, I still like Batman and Batman Returns way better than this new flick

You suck.

I concur. Anyone who prefers another Batman movie to Batman Begins must be a Batman movies fan, not a true Batman fan.

This is a thread for Batman Begins .... A MOVIE

Yup. I went to be entertained, not to pick apart the comic book. Same goes for Spiderman and X-Men. While I knew the general story line and the characters for Spiderman and X-Men, I didn't go anal about the relevance of the story to the comics b/c it IS afterall a movie and about entertainment.

Same goes for Batman Begins. As a movie, I was less entertained then the first two movies...mainly b/c the chemistry between characters was NOT there IMHO. Fvck, I think that there was more chemistry between The Joker and Bob in the original than there was between many of the characters in this movie.

 

[vrbaba]

katie holmes is HOTTT

 

[VIAN]

Wasn't there a scene in Batman Returns with a lot of cop cars getting destroyed as they tried to chase down the Batmobile?

Yes there was, but that wasn't batman's fault. Batman didn't physically do that, he was just trying to escape and the cops' clumsiness led to much destruction.

You know, I'm wandering what the new joker is gonna be like. Thinner, taller, crazier. Batman Begins has sort of a comic book look to it, so I'm thinking the sequel will do the same.

You suck.
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I concur. Anyone who prefers another Batman movie to Batman Begins must be a Batman movies fan, not a true Batman fan.

Neither followed through with the comic, so Batman is better. Keaton says "I'm Batman" better. Because he was cooler. His symbol was even cooler. I wonder why Tim changed it.

***SPOILER***




One thing I don't understand is..

When all those people in Gotham were exposed to the scarecrow's concoction, how did they get cured? That little vial of vaccine that Morgan Freeman gave to Batman couldn't have been enough for the ENTIRE city.

***SPOILER CONTINUED***


I think they totally missed that part. It went from defeating the badguys to the prequel to the sequel. Probably cut out a lot of the movie, but yeah there are some things that are just left hanging.


PS: Trust!

 

[mchammer]

I AM BATMAN

 

[zainali]

in the previous batmans was the cape the same thing (used as a gliding thing) as it was in this one or was the cape just for looks?