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ch33zw1z

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While I have no specifics for Diablo 3, I do have some information regarding WoW servers.

To main*tain the server side of WoW, Bliz*zard requires:

• 20,000 computers

• 1.3 pita-bytes of storage

• 75,000 CPU cores


There is however no specific information revealed about the hardware its self. I guess from there, we only assume the server tech behind Diablo 3, and Starcraft 2.

Sounds like they need to retire some old servers.

Anyone have info on the D3 environment?
 

JJ650

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Be wary though. 250 dps is a massive difference, especially after you factor in the Dex damage bonus. Which I wouldnt be surprised he was near 1500+%.

at 1500% that 200 dps becomes, 3700+ Dps loss. He would have to calculate (or just socket an item like that and equip it) how much that loss in dps and gain in crit damage would actually do to his overall dps.

I would still give nods to the rare item with +base stats/open socket, 850-900'ish dps unless his magic bow has a good bit of vit/dex on it.

I am just speculating on a plain jane magic bow vs a bow with decent high dmg plus added benefit of additional stats and socket.
 

diesbudt

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I would still give nods to the rare item with +base stats/open socket, 850-900'ish dps unless his magic bow has a good bit of vit/dex on it.

I am just speculating on a plain jane magic bow vs a bow with decent high dmg plus added benefit of additional stats and socket.

I was just speculating how much dps out of a weapon is worth the best gem to place into it, as 250 dps on a weapon is pretty significant. And weapons that high in dps wont be plain jane as it had to use a %damge or +min/max damage affix to make it that high.
 

brotj7

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Am I the only one who read:

"Blizzard uses 20,000 systems and 1.3 petabytes of storage to power its gaming operations."

and though define "systems". Does that include QA systems, ticket systems, revenue systems, development systems, power management systems, employee time management systems,...etc.
 

JJ650

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I was just speculating how much dps out of a weapon is worth the best gem to place into it, as 250 dps on a weapon is pretty significant. And weapons that high in dps wont be plain jane as it had to use a %damge or +min/max damage affix to make it that high.

To me, a weapon that only has a damage modifier on it and nothing else is plain. I was also thinking the comparison was for a normal (blue) drop.

I see quite a few people going gaga over a high dps weapon with no other stats and then become irate when they find out their overall damage output is lower.
 

diesbudt

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To me, a weapon that only has a damage modifier on it and nothing else is plain. I was also thinking the comparison was for a normal (blue) drop.

I see quite a few people going gaga over a high dps weapon with no other stats and then become irate when they find out their overall damage output is lower.

Well that is because of 2 possibilities. 1) add enough STR/Dex/Int and it can compensate some of that dps. 2) Damage done, not dps. Some classes like wizard and DH cannot just shoot things to hearts content, so sometimes a harder hitting but slower weapon (same or less dps) is better for them.

Normally a crit damage gem is a good thing to add, only if the DPS is within 100 dps or better of the other weapon and the stats are about equivalent.
 

Grooveriding

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Tell me if you can why this picture is priceless. Of course only for those who feel the game is terrible.

 

Imp

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The addiction's broken... Haven't played this in days and don't feel any urge to go back. Only incentive right now is to gold farm to sell - I average 200k/hour, so $0.40/hour wage!
 

Hacp

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http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/11/25/wows-back-end-10-data-centers-75000-cores/

I didn't post the original message about those numbers, but I found this when I looked it up on my own.

For those that can't click the link:

Blizzard hosts its gaming infrastructure with AT&T, which provides data center space, network monitoring and management. AT&T, which has been supporting Blizzard for nine years, doesn’t provide a lot of details on Blizzard’s infrastructure. But Blizzard’s Allen Brack and Frank Pearce provided some details at the recent Game Developer’s Conference in Austin. Here are some data points:

  • Blizzard Online Network Services run in 10 data centers around the world, including facilities in Washington, California, Texas, Massachusetts, France, Germany, Sweden, South Korea, China, and Taiwan.
  • Blizzard uses 20,000 systems and 1.3 petabytes of storage to power its gaming operations.
  • WoW’s infrastructure includes 13,250 server blades, 75,000 CPU cores, and 112.5 terabytes of blade RAM.
  • The Blizzard network is managed by a staff of 68 people.
  • The company’s gaming infrastructure is monitored from a global network operating center (GNOC), which like many NOCs, features televisions tuned to the weather stations to track potential uptime threats across its data center footprint.
Seems strange to have 13K servers for WoW when people have been running large private servers with a single core 2 duo system. I think there is a bit of over-exaggeration.
 

Feneant2

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Can someone estimate the value of this belt :
200 strength
149 vitality
39 poison resist (Estimation as I don't remember)
200 armor (Estimation as I don't remember)
65 to all resists
12% to magic find

I initially thought it was nice and may fetch around 20$ but looking on the auction houses it could be more. Similar ones are listed at 40 to 100 million gold pieces or 40-199$- I think the magic find is a nice bonus that a lot of others don't have since you wouldn't have to switch it out constantly.

As a barbarian it's a major upgrade but considering how the game has so little potential for future play, I prefer selling the belt.
 
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diesbudt

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Seems strange to have 13K servers for WoW when people have been running large private servers with a single core 2 duo system. I think there is a bit of over-exaggeration.

Some of those systems could easily be for non server related things. Each server is going to have its own of course, as 2 servers on one is an issue. You probably have separate log in servers that are protected, add in security in separate servers and on top of that back-ups I am sure, or even a rotation as they can work some as the others are hard at work.

Don't just think for a moment it is as simple as a home made server plan, as there is much more that a Company this size does with its systems.

I dont know the details, but if this info came from blizzard itself, dont be too skeptical on it, just know that it probably are not all just game servers, but also other things that go on a game, such as an instances run on separate servers etc. (Which they actually do)
 

lupi

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And remember a wow server is actually multiple servers as you have one for each main continent, one for chat, and then others for the instances etc...
 

EDUSAN

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well.... i spent 4 mill in a bow (1050 dps) with 150-180 dext and a socket with a 80% emerald gem... it was easily a 5k dps upgrade and impale started criting (with the 100% crit damage rune) for 350k sometimes.

im at 80k dps without sharshooter (i think)... it goes to 150k with it.

a friend suggested me to drop SS and go for Shadow Power + Gloom. It definetly works when tring to kill reflect damage elites, but i lost way too much mobility... im trying to get used to my new setup of skills

Passives:
Archery, Sharshooter, the one that gives more damage when you are not close

1) Shadow Power + Gloom
2) SS with 30% movement speed, but it sucks. I used to have Vault, but that invulnerability is DAMN handy sometimes, when you get jailed or stuck in a wall... cant play without it
3) preparation with 30% chance of not cooldown
4) Impale

mouse 1: Evasive fire with the 3 hit rune (i used to have hungering arrow with 70% more damage, cant decide which one to keep)
mouse 2: Nether tentacles or ball lightning, cant decide which one to keep

i still get crushed in act3... the game fucking knows what class im using, why so many invulnerabl/shielding/reflect damage elites? every fucking pack has 1 of those skills...
 

diesbudt

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well.... i spent 4 mill in a bow (1050 dps) with 150-180 dext and a socket with a 80% emerald gem... it was easily a 5k dps upgrade and impale started criting (with the 100% crit damage rune) for 350k sometimes.

im at 80k dps without sharshooter (i think)... it goes to 150k with it.

a friend suggested me to drop SS and go for Shadow Power + Gloom. It definetly works when tring to kill reflect damage elites, but i lost way too much mobility... im trying to get used to my new setup of skills

Passives:
Archery, Sharshooter, the one that gives more damage when you are not close

1) Shadow Power + Gloom
2) SS with 30% movement speed, but it sucks. I used to have Vault, but that invulnerability is DAMN handy sometimes, when you get jailed or stuck in a wall... cant play without it
3) preparation with 30% chance of not cooldown
4) Impale

mouse 1: Evasive fire with the 3 hit rune (i used to have hungering arrow with 70% more damage, cant decide which one to keep)
mouse 2: Nether tentacles or ball lightning, cant decide which one to keep

i still get crushed in act3... the game fucking knows what class im using, why so many invulnerabl/shielding/reflect damage elites? every fucking pack has 1 of those skills...

I honestly think each act the champions affixs become worse. I.E. the ones that players find more issues with. Act 1 affix combos have not been an issue in a long time to me. Act 2 affixs not a big deal. Act 3 however... some of the combos are wrong, and I definitly see more invulnerable and such in Act 3 then 1 or 2
 

darkxshade

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Seems strange to have 13K servers for WoW when people have been running large private servers with a single core 2 duo system. I think there is a bit of over-exaggeration.


I don't know of any private servers that hosts[hosted 12m+ subscribers]
 

SS Trooper

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After a 2 week break due to work and vacation, my buddy and I took another crack at Act3 Inferno. I am a practically invunerable tank thanks to some upgrades with +% reduced damage from melee/ranged attacks. I do still dislike sword and board as opposed to swinging a gigantic sword, but its ok im small doses.

I only died a handful of times going through the first 3 quests. My DH buddy died a crap ton. He needs to master the shoot from off screen tactic.

How is the jump from Act3 to Act4 as a tank. It sounds like it is not as bad as previous jumps, but should I start saving money for more upgrades just in case?
 

EDUSAN

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The delta between A3 and A4 is much less than that of A1 to A2 and still less than A2 to A3 imo.

i tried doing the beginning of act4 alone as DH... the 1st enemy, that mini boss, is fucking impossible...those shadow fiends or whatever they are called 1 shoot me and they come endlessly :S
 

pcmatt1024

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Well that is because of 2 possibilities. 1) add enough STR/Dex/Int and it can compensate some of that dps. 2) Damage done, not dps. Some classes like wizard and DH cannot just shoot things to hearts content, so sometimes a harder hitting but slower weapon (same or less dps) is better for them.

Normally a crit damage gem is a good thing to add, only if the DPS is within 100 dps or better of the other weapon and the stats are about equivalent.

takes a few minutes to fill out initially, but very useful prior to making AH buys

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5835833998

this will at least give you an idea of the displayed DPS. As far as the situation mentioned here, that's more dependent on class and play style as mentioned
 

JJ650

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i tried doing the beginning of act4 alone as DH... the 1st enemy, that mini boss, is fucking impossible...those shadow fiends or whatever they are called 1 shoot me and they come endlessly :S

Do you use caltrops? They helped me with that one.
Shuriken cloud works well on that one too when using shadow +gloom.
 
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