**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[EDUSAN]

co-op play have a whole new level, as you have to coordinate kills for MF swap, and in general you will have a better co-op experience if your team is good. also,

are you sure that the DROP will take into accoutn WHO kills the guy?

i would probably think that when the enemy is killed every player will have drop according to THEIR MF in the moment it was killed

 

[bonkers325]

are you sure that the DROP will take into accoutn WHO kills the guy?

i would probably think that when the enemy is killed every player will have drop according to THEIR MF in the moment it was killed

doesn't matter who kills the player, its what YOUR MF% is at the time of kill. so... if your wiz/DH kills the elite before you gear swap and you only have 5 stacks, then your rolls are based on 75% MF. if you coordinated, everyone can fall back and swap then finish the kill with their MF gear on.

 

[EDUSAN]

doesn't matter who kills the player, its what YOUR MF% is at the time of kill. so... if your wiz/DH kills the elite before you gear swap and you only have 5 stacks, then your rolls are based on 75% MF. if you coordinated, everyone can fall back and swap then finish the kill with their MF gear on.

ah that... we said the same thing then...i just didnt understand your previous message

man that blows...i used to play my DH with a base MF amount (100%) and a MONK tank was carrying 280% MF, so we were getting drop as if both had 190% MF... now i will need to have MF for real... AND I HATE ITEM SWAP

 

[darkxshade]

It might be advisable to sell any expensive weapons you have now since i61 and i62 weapons are being buffed to be able to comparable i63's. I'm not sure though if they can roll the same affixes(such as 100% crit dmg).

With the trash mob rare drop buff, you can probably now rock higher MF naturally and farm them. Packs as a result might be just as difficult as before but they removed invuln minons so how hard can it be?


edit: brimstones just shot up by 2x

 

[SS Trooper]

I noticed a lack of mention for PVP. That was supposed to be 1.04 wasn't it?

 

[rstrohkirch]

1.1

 

[HopJokey]

The changes look good, team play may be back in vogue. I like the buff to iLvl 61/62 weapons and 2H weapons. Before they were useless.

Furthermore, I like how they are buffing the white mobs and weakening the champs/elites [overall and tweaking/removing some modifiers like Invulnerable Minions).

Also it looks like according to the post the patch will come out in a few weeks (4th week of August).

 

[bonkers325]

ah that... we said the same thing then...i just didnt understand your previous message

man that blows...i used to play my DH with a base MF amount (100%) and a MONK tank was carrying 280% MF, so we were getting drop as if both had 190% MF... now i will need to have MF for real... AND I HATE ITEM SWAP

oh well, you'll still kill faster in a 4 player game anyway. monsters will have 16% less HP due to having 4 players in game, so stuff will die that much faster.

 

[IAteYourMother]

They just realized that averaging out MF throughout your group was a bad idea? It was the dumbest fucking idea in the whole world. Why on earth would you ever penalize someone in a group for wearing MF?

I swear, these developers just didn't understand the game they "designed"

 

[darkxshade]

I wonder how public games will turn out now. You could load up on MF gear and just let others do the work.

 

[SS Trooper]

1.1

Thanks.

 

[PimpJuice]

They just realized that averaging out MF throughout your group was a bad idea? It was the dumbest fucking idea in the whole world. Why on earth would you ever penalize someone in a group for wearing MF?

I swear, these developers just didn't understand the game they "designed"

Its pretty simple to understand why they did it, its because ranged classes like Mages and Demon Hunters could wear nothing but MF gear while sitting back behind Monks and Barbs who need their best gear to survive and tank.

I think it was a good idea, and not a fan of the change.

 

[Brainonska511]

Its pretty simple to understand why they did it, its because ranged classes like Mages and Demon Hunters could wear nothing but MF gear while sitting back behind Monks and Barbs who need their best gear to survive and tank.

I think it was a good idea, and not a fan of the change.

I would think the better idea would be to provide a group bonus, similar to how equipping magic find gear on your helper when soloing gives you a small boost. So you'd get your base MF + some small bonus because of whatever MF the other members of the group had equipped.

 

[Fallengod]

Its pretty simple to understand why they did it, its because ranged classes like Mages and Demon Hunters could wear nothing but MF gear while sitting back behind Monks and Barbs who need their best gear to survive and tank.

I think it was a good idea, and not a fan of the change.

Not it wasnt. They also made the game significantly harder while in coop play so chances are most people dont play in groups anyways and if they did, probably not with mf gear on. Theres nothing that says monks and barbs cant wear mf gear.....

It has been one of the dumbest things implemented in an item find game....ever. The game has screamed solo play all along. MF distributed to teammates and game is significantly harder while in coop. I dont think that many people play in groups to begin with, let alone to MF.

I agree with Brainonska511 though. The better idea would be, just give the teammates who dont have mf a bonus to mf without penalizing the players who stacked mf. With that said, there are plenty of experienced D3 players who will tell you they find just as many good items with ZERO mf as they do with 200+ mf.


On another note, nobody plays D3 anymore anyways.

 

[Alex C]

I like most of the changes, and am excited to see what they do with the Legendaries. Though it seems like they might be nerfing Inferno a little too hard.

I'm still progressing pretty well in Act II without ever having used an AH, currently finding Zultun Kulle's blood. Some packs are really tough, but for the most part I'm doing fine. My new goal is to beat Inferno before the patch hits, with just items I've found or crafted.

 

[darkxshade]

wow did anyone check out the prices for 6 prop weapon plans? The 6 prop dagger plan is like 10m now... was around 1m last night

 

[Imp]

Grrrr... locked out until next week.

On a brighter note, I finally checked my Paypal balance and I've made $60 back 250 hours later. Proud of me...

 

[Fenixgoon]

im getting crushed in act2 hell mode..almost at the end for belial. any good places to farm loot? really i need tons of armor and resistances. my armor is ~3k and my highest resist is like 125. the rest are ~75

 

[Imp]

im getting crushed in act2 hell mode..almost at the end for belial. any good places to farm loot? really i need tons of armor and resistances. my armor is ~3k and my highest resist is like 125. the rest are ~75

You need at least 200 resists to be somewhat "comfortable" through Hell. That's for any class, unless you're ranged and like dying a lot.

Belial is more about dodging stuff if you can't afford very high resists. I think I had 300 resists and still couldn't stand in his pools.

 

[Alex C]

You need at least 200 resists to be somewhat "comfortable" through Hell. That's for any class, unless you're ranged and like dying a lot.

Belial is more about dodging stuff if you can't afford very high resists. I think I had 300 resists and still couldn't stand in his pools.

I'm doing Inferno as a monk with less than 300 and I'm still doing alright.

 

[lupi]

1.04 reads like something that should have been 0.94.

 

[HopJokey]

1.04 reads like something that should have been 0.94.

Better nate than lever?

 

[Anubis]

You need at least 200 resists to be somewhat "comfortable" through Hell. That's for any class, unless you're ranged and like dying a lot.

Belial is more about dodging stuff if you can't afford very high resists. I think I had 300 resists and still couldn't stand in his pools.

ummm i did hell on every char with like zero resists you do not need any until inferno, and even then you can beat act 1 with under 200

 

[ch33zw1z]

ummm i did hell on every char with like zero resists you do not need any until inferno, and even then you can beat act 1 with under 200

So you're an all-star, have a cookie. Some of us need res to make the game more enjoyable.

 

[stag3]

yea by the time i finished hell i had roughly 200 resist all