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SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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I've decided I'm going to download the game tomorrow morning after I get off work. Any quick tips for a nub whose never played a Diablo game before?

Here is some pointers I would tell you:
  • Don't hold on to equipment. Either use it or sell it. Once you get a high level character you can buy the best leveling gear for your alts for chump change on the GAH.
  • Don't bother with the blacksmith until you are in your mid 50's. You can buy better equipment on the GAH for the price it takes to make crafted equipment.
  • Do upgrade the Gemcrafter. For leveling gems are very important (and continue to be important in end game).
  • Normal and Nightmare are easy, play any class with any build no problem, so focus on magic/gold/xp equipment. Hell gets a little more difficult, you will need real equipment then.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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Speaking of farming, I just found one of these during an Act 1 farm run:



I think it will fetch 15M?


congrats, one of the best rings in game

dex and str variants usually get 20-30m, not exactly sure about int but I would imagine the same if not only slightly lower
 

Nvidiaguy07

Platinum Member
Feb 22, 2008
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awesome, just got banned for complaining again on the blizzard forums. Does anyone really think this is "spamming/trolling"?

posted in this thread http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5270834509?page=31

posted like a week or so ago just complaining and got banned for a week.

Are they serious? Over 600 posts or people having the same issue and they still ignore it.

I've decided I'm going to download the game tomorrow morning after I get off work. Any quick tips for a nub whose never played a Diablo game before?
dont play it with a decent video card or youll get crazy frame skipping. And dont complain about it of blizz forums or they will ban you.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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define decent card? i don't remember any issues with my 6870 or 7950

running CF on 2 6870s shutterd like a strobe light but i figured that was CF being dumb as it worked fine with it off
 

Nvidiaguy07

Platinum Member
Feb 22, 2008
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define decent card? i don't remember any issues with my 6870 or 7950

running CF on 2 6870s shutterd like a strobe light but i figured that was CF being dumb as it worked fine with it off

maybe it affects nvidia cards more than ati then. Check out the thread, its pretty widespread.
 

fustercluck

Diamond Member
Dec 29, 2002
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How is that ring (hopkey posted) worth 10-15m, especially with better legendaries coming out?

awesome, just got banned for complaining again on the blizzard forums. Does anyone really think this is "spamming/trolling"?

posted in this thread http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5270834509?page=31

posted like a week or so ago just complaining and got banned for a week.

Are they serious? Over 600 posts or people having the same issue and they still ignore it.


dont play it with a decent video card or youll get crazy frame skipping. And dont complain about it of blizz forums or they will ban you.

From what I've seen there are just a bunch of aggressive young nerds running blizz forums, enforcing their "dominance" any chance they can.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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How is that ring (hopkey posted) worth 10-15m, especially with better legendaries coming out?

They aren't out yet and you don't know what they're are. These are current rates, if a ring with high dmg, over 100 primary stat, crit rate and loh isn't worth 10-15m... then you are mistaken. 10-15 is a low estimate too. What else do you expect the ring to have? It even has + elite dmg.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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They aren't out yet and you don't know what they're are. These are current rates, if a ring with high dmg, over 100 primary stat, crit rate and loh isn't worth 10-15m... then you are mistaken. 10-15 is a low estimate too. What else do you expect the ring to have? It even has + elite dmg.

All res. That is a pretty low loh too.
 

Nvidiaguy07

Platinum Member
Feb 22, 2008
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How is that ring (hopkey posted) worth 10-15m, especially with better legendaries coming out?



From what I've seen there are just a bunch of aggressive young nerds running blizz forums, enforcing their "dominance" any chance they can.

blizz has really gone down the crapper huh? Well, at least torchlight 2 will be out (hopefully) soon.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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All res. That is a pretty low loh too.


Ok, you find one of those rings, I'll buy it off you for 10m, how's that sound?

All res on a ring with those stats would take it past 50m. Not that all res should even be a priority on a ring considering it can be had everywhere except weapons.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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Ok, you find one of those rings, I'll buy it off you for 10m, how's that sound?

All res on a ring with those stats would take it past 50m. Not that all res should even be a priority on a ring considering it can be had everywhere except weapons.

I've got a rare right now that I found that is:

151 dex
74 vit
17 cold res
19 loh
171 armor
socket

~100 loh is pretty low, considering that people have 30k health (300 hits to fill back up?) and baddies do that much damage super easily.

Life steal is much better IMO.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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lifesteal is capped in inferno and does not compare to loh at all until you do upwards of 100k dmg

max loh on a ring is around 330 on i63 rings so 192 is pretty good... skull grasp usually rolls 220 tops being a i61
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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It's not capped, lifesteal takes an 80% nerf in inferno.

So if you have 2.5% and hit for 30K that's 750 healing in hell. Switch to inferno and that becomes 150. You can beat that with around 200 Loh (not all abilities get 100% LoH). It's a fair amount of healing, and it does scale but LoH is generally superior. At the low end of gear it's not bad, poor man's LoH. Now if you are hitting for 80K a hit that's around 450 with lifesteal, starts to get interesting again.
 
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Soccerman06

Diamond Member
Jul 29, 2004
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It's not capped, lifesteal takes an 80% nerf in inferno.

So if you have 2.5% and hit for 30K that's 750 healing in hell. Switch to inferno and that becomes 150. You can beat that with around 200 Loh (not all abilities get 100% LoH). It's a fair amount of healing, and it does scale but LoH is generally superior. At the low end of gear it's not bad, poor man's LoH. Now if you are hitting for 80K a hit that's around 450 with lifesteal, starts to get interesting again.

If your doing 80k dps, you probably have over 1000 loh. Just sayin
 

MBentz

Golden Member
Jun 8, 2005
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Here is some pointers I would tell you:
  • Don't hold on to equipment. Either use it or sell it. Once you get a high level character you can buy the best leveling gear for your alts for chump change on the GAH.
  • Don't bother with the blacksmith until you are in your mid 50's. You can buy better equipment on the GAH for the price it takes to make crafted equipment.
  • Do upgrade the Gemcrafter. For leveling gems are very important (and continue to be important in end game).
  • Normal and Nightmare are easy, play any class with any build no problem, so focus on magic/gold/xp equipment. Hell gets a little more difficult, you will need real equipment then.

Thank you for the tips. I'm downloading the client now!
 

HopJokey

Platinum Member
May 6, 2005
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How is that ring (hopkey posted) worth 10-15m, especially with better legendaries coming out?

This is just speculation based on what Blizz posted, but most of the Legendary changes will be to weapons which are useless right now. Stuff that is already powerful like many rings will stay mostly the same.

FYI that ring I found sold for 25M gold within a matter of hours:

 
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HopJokey

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May 6, 2005
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Sure, but you could also afford to switch to lifesteal weapons if it gives more healing.

I think with the max life steal you can get/roll vs. LOH, LOH will always be better. Life steal is good as a secondary stat to LOH. I'd rather roll IAS, primary stat, and LOH over Life steal any day.
 

Alex C

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Finally beat Act II without the AH. Took forever for my group to find the right combo of gear and skills to kill Belial before the enrage timer hit. He was down to a tiny bit of health when the enrage started and wiped out all but our DH who was hiding in a corner. We were all yelling at him to keep shooting, and he managed to get enough hits in to take him out. Seeing him die is my new favorite D3 moment.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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there's going to be a big wow patch on the 29th, be interesting if that's when the d3 one drops too.
 

flexy

Diamond Member
Sep 28, 2001
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Everything about this game is just annoying, i mean even looking for suitable stuff on the AH is annoying as hell. With only three filters, i still have to individually look at EACH single item to find items with the right stats, even worse when looking eg. for things like wizard OHs. I haven't really had "fun" playing this for some weeks now, getting tired of looting crap all the time or to see that you get one-shot even with 900ish allresist etc., standing trapped within 5 arcane beams...etc...etc...i'd really like to see TL2 or any of the other games because i am so sick of this game.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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lifesteal is capped in inferno and does not compare to loh at all until you do upwards of 100k dmg

max loh on a ring is around 330 on i63 rings so 192 is pretty good... skull grasp usually rolls 220 tops being a i61

My DH with all its buffs can do almost 200k on a crit on one enemy. Add the AoE marked for death and spike traps and I can go from 5% health to full health in about 2 seconds with a group. No way LoH can get anywhere near that.
 

FallenHero

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Jan 2, 2006
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On the other hand, Inferno is the only reason I played as long as I did.

I found it the opposite. Difficulty is a good thing when done right, but Inferno was just pure frustration at the mechanics of the game destroying you, regardless of skill. I can't farm when I am murdered by impossible affix combos. I quit 3 weeks ago and haven't looked back yet. I might jump back in for 1.04, see what happens. But I doubt I'm in it for the long haul like I was with D2.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I found it the opposite. Difficulty is a good thing when done right, but Inferno was just pure frustration at the mechanics of the game destroying you, regardless of skill. I can't farm when I am murdered by impossible affix combos. I quit 3 weeks ago and haven't looked back yet. I might jump back in for 1.04, see what happens. But I doubt I'm in it for the long haul like I was with D2.

same. i quit about a month ago. when 1.04 comes out i will try it again.

fact of the matter the game is not fun at the high levels.
 

OCNewbie

Diamond Member
Jul 18, 2000
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same. i quit about a month ago. when 1.04 comes out i will try it again.

fact of the matter the game is not fun at the high levels.

I finally found a build that was doable with my Barb in Inferno (LoH with those tornado things), and I got through Act 1 without too many headaches. When I got to Act 2, and ran into an Elite Fallen type pack, with fire chains, illusion (whatever the one is that splits into multiples), and a couple other annoying mods, I got them all down to 1 mob, after what seemed like forever, and then I got my first taste of that "Out of Time"/Enrage debuff. I died within like 2 tics of that debuff, and as I came back from town to try to finish that lone monster off, and died every time, I decided that wast it for me. That kinda game is not "fun".

I will definitely be checking things out after 1.04 comes out; will probably be giving my WD another try, as I really liked my WD when pets were actually worth having out.
 
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