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Rhezuss

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2006
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It's crazy how much has changed in a year. I primarily use a Barb, stopped playing months ago. Now I'm lost and don't know where I should go.

I've always used LoH instead of other means of health regen. Anyone wanna help? Should I switch to the Crusader? I prefer melee over ranged.

Well, Crusader is a lot of fun and feel relaly different from the other classes. But be warned, it's slower than any other classes in D3. But it's fun.

You should give it a try and see how you like how it plays.

The Barb is still really fun though and it's currently my main. Sure I don't have any other toon at 70 and I too prefer melee over ranged and the Barb is giving me my fix on that.

It's never too late to start a new character
 

Majes

Golden Member
Apr 8, 2008
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A lot of the gem prices were because of dupes and "hacked accounts" rollbacks. So, those gems weren't actually made. I made a ton of money in gems, I followed the market pretty closely. I remember the patch that was supposed to stop the gem duping / rollbacks and bought quite a few gems at around 8 mil a pop. They instantly spiked to 32 mil each after patch day. But, gems always went up after a patch.

Yup yup. Gems were generally the easiest way to see how much people were exploiting the game. I was shocked at how cheap they were at times.
 

Stuka87

Diamond Member
Dec 10, 2010
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Yup yup. Gems were generally the easiest way to see how much people were exploiting the game. I was shocked at how cheap they were at times.

Reminds me of the SoJ crash in Diablo 2. Items went from costing a few SoJ's to thousands once people learned to dupe them, thereby making them worth less. Which was funny because it was otherwise a pretty useless item.
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
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I love my wizard 10000000x more then my barb, the wiz rapes. I got to 70 3-4 playtime hours and am already at 500k dps, and 5 mil toughness... and can walk through t1 no problem...and my barb had like 15 hours and was struggling!
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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I love my wizard 10000000x more then my barb, the wiz rapes. I got to 70 3-4 playtime hours and am already at 500k dps, and 5 mil toughness... and can walk through t1 no problem...and my barb had like 15 hours and was struggling!

There is a good chance you're avoiding a lot of damage on your Wiz that your barb had to soak up. And Wizard is fairly straight forward on good build synergy. Once someone figures out a good barb build though, they will once again spin 2 win. You can't stop team lawnmower cleave!
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
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Are there any sets worth crafting from BS or anything? For wiz or barb?

There is a good chance you're avoiding a lot of damage on your Wiz that your barb had to soak up. And Wizard is fairly straight forward on good build synergy. Once someone figures out a good barb build though, they will once again spin 2 win. You can't stop team lawnmower cleave!

of course, a shitload more kiting, haha...but man things drop like a rock.
 

Stuka87

Diamond Member
Dec 10, 2010
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There is a good chance you're avoiding a lot of damage on your Wiz that your barb had to soak up. And Wizard is fairly straight forward on good build synergy. Once someone figures out a good barb build though, they will once again spin 2 win. You can't stop team lawnmower cleave!

Ever since the 2.0.1 patch my Barb has been worthless. I gave up on him. But its still there in case somebody figures something out that works. Biggest issue is no life leech. So you take all this dmg, but have no easy way to regain it quickly. X-Points of life on hit just doesn't work when you are dealing with 400k hp.
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
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Ever since the 2.0.1 patch my Barb has been worthless. I gave up on him. But its still there in case somebody figures something out that works. Biggest issue is no life leech. So you take all this dmg, but have no easy way to regain it quickly. X-Points of life on hit just doesn't work when you are dealing with 400k hp.

yup, worthless!
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Ever since the 2.0.1 patch my Barb has been worthless. I gave up on him. But its still there in case somebody figures something out that works. Biggest issue is no life leech. So you take all this dmg, but have no easy way to regain it quickly. X-Points of life on hit just doesn't work when you are dealing with 400k hp.

I know pre RoS, my barb's rend build was decent enough for doing T6 (but I already had incredibly gear). I haven't played him in RoS, because even the Rend and paltry LS I had (I was only running 3% on a single weapon) just wasn't going to cut it. I'm sure there will be a build out that synergizes well. People just have to figure it out!
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Is this worth getting for someone who will be just starting out now? I mean...if someone never touched it before is it kind of late to get into it and should they maybe wait to see what the game is like on PS4 later on before beginning?

Been thinking about this game the past week or two.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Is this worth getting for someone who will be just starting out now? I mean...if someone never touched it before is it kind of late to get into it and should they maybe wait to see what the game is like on PS4 later on before beginning?

Been thinking about this game the past week or two.

The starter edition is free (you play up until right after the first boss or level 13), so there is no reason not to try it out. And, from a progression in loot perspective, now is probably the best time to start. The drops are far more tailored to your character and make the experience easier than the previous "everything is RNG" loot they had at Vanilla. The scaling leveling also makes it a lot better, because you don't have to worry about over or under leveling for an area.

Once you get to endgame, it is pretty much a reset for 99% of the community, so new players aren't "penalized" in that either. A vast amount of the stuff players had at level 60 is replaced quickly at 70, and only the very best of the best items remain.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I didn't know they had a free edition. May as well give it a go once I can sit down and make time to give it a proper eval.
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Pre 2.0, I was getting far more legendary drops than I am now. I was getting 2-3 legeendaries per run before on the Barb, granted I was running MP10 with high Paragon levels. A run took like 20 minutes.

Now, I am lucky to get 3-4 a night in 4 hours.

And smart loot isn't so smart. I had great gear pre 2.0 and have found upgrades only for things that are eHP slots or need a single "random" roll. Shoulders, bracers, and boot basically. I did get lucky and found a quadfecta ring, but it doesn't have main stat (because it can't...).

After 7k, main stat hits softcap. Someone wrote up a great stat picking thread on battlenet.
 
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Couple random questions regarding Adventure Mode:

1. What is the starting Act default? I know you can jump to any way point in any act, but when I join a new AM game, I am always in Act 3, is that what it's supposed to do?

2. My Act III and Act IV always have the double bonus. Are those bonuses acts supposed to be random?

3. Are you supposed to get a rift shard (or whatever it's called) for each bounty you complete? I find that the first bounty I do in a new AM game only yields gold and XP. All subsequent bounties provide a shard.
 

pandemonium

Golden Member
Mar 17, 2011
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Couple random questions regarding Adventure Mode:

1. What is the starting Act default? I know you can jump to any way point in any act, but when I join a new AM game, I am always in Act 3, is that what it's supposed to do?

2. My Act III and Act IV always have the double bonus. Are those bonuses acts supposed to be random?

3. Are you supposed to get a rift shard (or whatever it's called) for each bounty you complete? I find that the first bounty I do in a new AM game only yields gold and XP. All subsequent bounties provide a shard.

1. I think it's one of whichever act has a "bonus" attached to it to lead you to completing that act first.

2. They are random. I've seen all of the acts give the bonus.

3. I thought that was part of the bonus, but it could just be a random chance for the shards being rewarded. Really not sure about this one since I hadn't paid close enough attention to when I'm getting them and when not.
 

Adrenaline

Diamond Member
Jun 12, 2005
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I was on my Barb two days ago and found a Shard of Hate with high damage, Dexterity and no socket. I was and still am not happy with this. It is sitting on my Monk.

I found a Deathseer's Cowl with high Dex, high Vitality, a socket and low crit.

I found a new legendary belt and it has high strength, high Vitality, armor and crusader swipe damage at 15%.

This new loot system is nice but holy crap I am getting unlucky. The enchantress can't fix this stuff for me.
 

ChairShot

Senior member
May 6, 2003
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Facepalm moment last night...

Score a 2500 DPS leg, got too carried away and tried to put a socket in it, cost a bundle of legendary mats + gold..... it's a fookin 2H for my Wizz and still no socket after like 10 tries

My enchantress on the other hand just got a 100K DPS boost!
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I seem to have a really hard time finding legendaries worth a crap. I think the drop rate for legendaries is OK, but the issue is 99% of the ones that drop for me are either not an upgrade over anything I have on (often even yellow items), or something I really can't use on my Wizard like a two-handed axe or a shield. The other night I got a decent belt....for a crusader. I've been sitting at around 200K dps on my wizard since shortly after I hit 70, and it's like I hit a wall with upgrades. I've tried the mystic to improve some of the ones I have gotten, but I can never get the roll I want, and I can only afford to re-roll an item once or twice before I need mats again.

I enjoy play the game itself though, but I think I'm having more fun playing through again on new characters than grinding for upgrades on my 70 Wizard that don't seem to come. When you're leveling a new character, everything is an upgrade!
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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My mael kill got a really nice bard sword, but otherwise haven't gotten any leg with stats that aren't good for my wiz.


Switched from a cold build to fire. Seems the burn mechanic ends up dealing a good amount more damage. Not sure I'm high enough yet to clear the bounty boss at torment, but master farming has become very uneventful.
 

redrider4life4

Senior member
Jan 23, 2009
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Honestly a 2-h on a Wiz is only worth it if you can roll a 3k+ dps. The 2k dps 1-h and a decent source will almost always be better. By passing up on a source you are missing 8-10% crit, arcane power on hit, and a variety of other stats a 2-h won't have.

I would be surprised if that 2500 dps 2-h isn't out damaged by a 1700 dps OS and source which are found every other drop.
 
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