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Imp

Lifer
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It's up... Only Monster Power 2 and 3 are feasible for me. I tried MP5 with my 100k dps DH and shit just does not die. It takes too long. For that 50% boost in gf/mf and experience, or whatever, I'd have cleared the map by the time I kill my first elite.

MP1 is the only one that lets me load up on mf/gf and kind of make it. Still a bit tougher than 1.0.4.
 

rstrohkirch

Platinum Member
May 31, 2005
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Well,
It seems like MP4 in Act3 is where I'm sitting at if I were to select max difficulty with minimal deaths. I'm not sure that I'll play at that level though as even with the bonus it just took too long to kill anything. I'm 93k unbuffed on my barb and it felt too slow. I did notice that jailer elites love to double jail you now. I had one pack that tossed down freeze orbs, jailed me, jailed me again, froze me and then finally jailed me again after I unfroze.
 

waterjug

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not gonna lie....I find WW'ing with my barb MUCH easier now that there's the lower fury consumption. My previous limiting factor was fury. Now, it's not


edit: Also, they're saying MP2-3 is 1.04 difficulty? Um....no. I was facerolling A1 & A2 in 1.04. I put it on MP2 now and I get creamed in A1 by any elite pack
 
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rstrohkirch

Platinum Member
May 31, 2005
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not gonna lie....I find WW'ing with my barb MUCH easier now that there's the lower fury consumption. My previous limiting factor was fury. Now, it's not

You were probably WWing to much previously. You only really needed to WW to get through something that was blocking you. You wanted the twisters from RLTW to do the damage not WW.

edit: Also, they're saying MP2-3 is 1.04 difficulty? Um....no. I was facerolling A1 & A2 in 1.04. I put it on MP2 now and I get creamed in A1 by any elite pack


Act 3 was between MP2-3

Act1 and 2 mobs went from lvl 61 and 62 to a flat 63 so there is a big difference there
 

PhatoseAlpha

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Apr 10, 2005
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OK, well, tried it, and got my ass royally whooped at MP1. Guess I'll try to see if Act 2 is actually any easier, or if it's all a load.

Any suggestions on wizard builds now that they're nerfed it even more?
 

stag3

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don't really like it, been playing mp1 and 2, super easy, never run out of fury while WW'ng

mp3 taking a bit longer, i can't imagine higher, i don't like the changes so far and drops have been crap for me damn RNG. i see tons of people getting 3-4 legendary's already ugh
 

PhatoseAlpha

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Apr 10, 2005
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OK, well, didn't improve the game. 35% less damage, but lolmeganerf you shield and then lolmeganerf your proc rates killing LoH.

Back to borderlands.
 

Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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I settled on MP1 after trying MP2. And I still die quite a lot even in Act 1 with mf/gf gear on. Since Act 1 monsters were lower level in 1.0.4, then that explains it. Also, very freaking laggy tonight and the past few days. Died a bunch of times when it would just freeze when a lag spike hit in the middle of a crowd.

On a brighter note, I found Stormshield and Vile Ward shoulders (my second set) tonight alone. Unfortunately, gold prices do not appear to have spiked. It's still only sitting at $0.60 per million. Come on weekend?
 
Oct 20, 2005
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Guys, what do you think this ring is worth?

+137 Dex
+81 Str
+293 LoH
+20% Gold
+20% MF
+CC 4.0%

I saw another ring w/ higher dex, but less everything else for about 5M. Is it close to that?
 

pandemonium

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Mar 17, 2011
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Put it up for 5m and hope someone bites. I'm guessing it'll be difficult to sell anything in the next couple of weeks while the market settles.
 
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They made it so you can't drop extra Plans for Staff of Herding.

I'll be waiting for the screenshot of someone with a full stash of them.
 

PimpJuice

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Feb 14, 2005
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Ran Act 3 with MP 4 no problems. I got 3 legendary drops in 1 run whereas I had 3 legendaries TOTAL in over 300 hours.

Innas Favor
Fire Walkers
vendored a 2h weapon

I also got the terror? key from the warden. We tried MP5 and it was doable but very tough and slow.
 

pandemonium

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Mar 17, 2011
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I'm glad to hear legendaries are dropping more often. Supply versus demand baby, woo! I'm glad I held onto me millions.
 

Zenoth

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Jan 29, 2005
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I launched the game for the first time since many weeks to try out this new patch. I mostly wanted to try the Monster Power feature really. It's fun, but it encourages more single-player play in my opinion, although that in itself isn't necessarily bad per se, but I thought that D3 could use more incentives to play with others but anyway, that's to each their own.

Now, how I feel about the Monster Power feature is that it finally made Act 1 fun, since I would just faceroll it before with my Barbarian and could easily enough get through Act II Inferno as well by just changing the build and not touching the gear. Now the thing is that I hated and still hate most of Act II in general, I did and still do prefer Act 1, I just prefer its setting, the atmosphere and the environments as well as the simpler D2-inspired map layouts (especially Highlands).

Before the patch however even though I preferred Act 1 I thought it was "wasted" since I just killed most mobs in 1 to 3 hits or so, and Elite packs were not a big problem. So to have challenge and potential gear as we know we have to move to Act II, but I hate that place so... I felt forced to stay there. And why stay there? Well because generally speaking Act 3 turned my Barb into wet cardboard and just regular mobs looking at me made me lose health.

That's basically why - amongst other reasons - I had stopped to play D3. Now... well I can have my challenge in Act 1, pump up the Monster Power level, remain single-player, play how I want, go where and when I want. That's definitely cool I admit it. My issue however is that other than the challenge I am still afraid that even at MP10 I wouldn't see good enough items, and that the loot table coming from the extra MP levels would still be better starting from Act 2 anyway. I don't know if that's the case though, but I haven't read anything that Blizzard mentioned themselves that would deny or confirm this.

Anyway, as far as where I can go with MP applied... well I tried with my Barb, it's my main character and the best geared of my other two Lvl 60's. I can manage MP4 so far although at that point most Elite packs pose a serious threat, and generally speaking playing alone at any MP level makes things way too long to get any results (I.E. gear, if anything). The thing is of course I can play alone "single-player"-style and do whatever... but my God if it takes me 10 minutes to get rid of one pack to get my first NV stack then I might as well just go back to No-MP Act II Inferno and stay there again to kill more packs, faster and mathematically increase my chances over a shorter period of time.

I'm mixed up and I'm not sure if it's even worth the time investment anymore. It's not that the MP feature itself isn't "good"... really I honestly think it's a step in the right direction. I used that in Diablo 2 back in the days before I moved to its on-line portion and then stayed there for years. I understand why they've done it for D3 as well, because simply put... it's a good idea. Now the problem is that it's a good idea, a good feature, and it worked well in D2, but in D3 it doesn't seem to be able to give us the same advantages over time. Yes the challenge is there definitely, the problem I think it still the loot tables.

I would honestly just bring the loot table from Act 4 back to Act 3, 2 and 1, there problem solved. From that point we'd just play in whichever Act we prefer, versus "having to" play in Acts in which we prefer the types of enemies we fight in it, and the loot table it potentially provides versus the previous Act. So anyway, long story short, tried one run at MP4 and cleared most areas, got to the Butcher and he killed me two times until my third try when I finally got him down (at that point I was bored of trying since it was taking just too long alone).

Then for the heck of it, I tried Monster Power 10, went back to Act I, went to the Cemetery and go my ass handed over on a golden platter by the first few skeletons there. It did give me a laugh, I was just curious. Their health (those skeletons') at MP10 was so high that some Elite packs at MP4 didn't have that much. And certainly their damage increased significantly. Anyway, Act 1 with MP4 is my Barb's limit pretty much, beyond that and it's just too long for no reasons and perhaps no advantages anyway. I wanted to play with others, just pugs. I checked the available public games and literally there were not a single Acts nor a single quest of any acts I have access to (until Act 3 right after Ghom) with anyone playing, zero, nada. Not sure if it was a... bug or lag or... not sure, or everyone switched to "single-player-style MP-fueled" sessions all of a sudden (that will happen in mass anyway it has to be expected).

So yeah, some good to this patch, some... not so significant I would say, probably not "bad" per se, but yeah I'd say not significant (I.E. no changes that for me would make the game significantly better and suddenly work playing again regularly for). I'll keep it installed for the occasional (very much so) rainy sundays when I feel like killing some zombies in a crypt or two for maybe 30 minutes, but that's about it.
 

j3poy

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So i farmed keys and got me a crap roll Hellfire ring. I'm at plvl 88 and really would like to farm my way up to plvl 100 by farming keys rather than fast 1.04 runs. Took me about 4 hours to get one crafted from nothing.

No problems with MP 8-9 solo, however i don't think its efficient. I'm just happy that my barb is very balanced.

 
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Batmeat

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So i farmed keys and got me a crap roll Hellfire ring. I'm at plvl 88 and really would like to farm my way up to plvl 100 by farming keys rather than fast 1.04 runs. Took me about 4 hours to get one crafted from nothing.

No problems with MP 8-9 solo, however i don't think its efficient. I'm just happy that my barb is very balanced.

Link your barb would ya. That'll give me an idea of what mine can do.
 

Batmeat

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Feb 1, 2011
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I'm trying to roll a barb~ input will be appreciated

Don't know if it's changed but I'm a WW tornado barb. plvl 77 and I steam roll through things. I haven't played the new patch yet. I have 2 exams tomorrow that've been sucking my time.
 

ahdaniels76

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Can someone help me get this straight:

If I play Inferno Act I at MP 3 and and then Act III at MP 3, what is the difference besides the maps? The monsters are all level 63, right? Drops should be identical. Are base XP and monster stats from Act I lower, or does the shift to level 63 normalize everything?

Also - people are mentioning keys. Are these for the "infernal machine?" Are they just like legendaries in that they drop rarely/never, or are there particular bosses who drop them (like herding staff plans)?

I tried Act III on MP4 with my WD and within 5 minutes got my first legendary in weeks... lvl 63, but a relatively weak 2H sword (1300dps, no stats) that procs that monk circle. But a couple more hours and no other legendaries.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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Can someone help me get this straight:

If I play Inferno Act I at MP 3 and and then Act III at MP 3, what is the difference besides the maps? The monsters are all level 63, right? Drops should be identical. Are base XP and monster stats from Act I lower, or does the shift to level 63 normalize everything?

Also - people are mentioning keys. Are these for the "infernal machine?" Are they just like legendaries in that they drop rarely/never, or are there particular bosses who drop them (like herding staff plans)?

I tried Act III on MP4 with my WD and within 5 minutes got my first legendary in weeks... lvl 63, but a relatively weak 2H sword (1300dps, no stats) that procs that monk circle. But a couple more hours and no other legendaries.

The keys drop from wardens in A1 - 4 4 being the plan itself.
I did a bunch of runs and didn't get squat. I even ran a 2-man. My partner got keys almost everytime while I didn't get squat. The plan also didn't drop for me while I did 3 runs at mp4 and got nothing.
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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