AdamK47
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Originally posted by: PoopyPants
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: PoopyPants
***regarding the IRQ/X-Fi issue****
And i said to do this months ago when the Issue first came about but did anyone listen to me.. noooooooooo....
if no one has noticed the friggin DS3 shoves almost all the PCI/PCI-E/USB devices all on 2 IRQ's. most of them but not all of them
they are IRQ 18 and 19.
i spoke with gigabyte about this and their response was, and i quote this from memory but know it is a 100% accurate quote.
"Please provide us with proof that having more than 1 device on an IRQ causes issues"
My reply to them was very basic and in your face.
I said ever since the onset of the IRQ system my Intel and Microsoft it has been a known and 100% fact that more than one device on an IRQ can potentially cause issues.
usually this is not the case unless they are key resource hungry components.
Using devices such as Video and lan together is bad, or Sound and Video, that is a 100% no no, you do not do this.
Several usb devices on the same IRQ as video or audio will absolutely cause you issues.
Poor video performance, poor sound performance such as crackling and popping, disappearing devices, Slow usb performance, ie mouse lag, or slow data rates.
Poor networking performance as the other resources are busy dealing with the other device instead of the lan.
For you people to not know this and deny it and then tell me to provide you with proof that is over a decae old and knowledge that you have to have to pass your A+ exam is rediculous, and i cant believe your blatant childish and standoff-ish attitude.
they failed to reply back but i have pictures showing gigabyte trying to openly blatantly and retardedly trying to lie and high issues from their customers.
the stupid tech guys sent me some pictures of the board for an issue i was having where they clearly tried to lie to me about not having the sam eissue and they didnt even have the hardware installed in the pictures, not any of the pictures. and they showed device manager and said "see no issues" and they didnt even have the stupid device installed
this is the type of retarded uneducated and worthless tech support from gigabyte.
i urge anyone and all of you to never call them unless its for an rma.
anyways.
the bios in the DS3/DS4/DQ6 allows you top set the IRQ's to Auto or PCI Device.
By all means try it but you need to understand what your doing.
Make sure you have a free IRQ or less populated one when you do this.
If you put the sound card on a populated or odd or infact wrong IRQ this can throw your entire system for a loop and may cause it to not even boot anymore.
so check your current available IRQ's before doing this.
What's wrong with odd IRQs for a sound card? Are you refering to odd as unusual or odd as in odd number? Back in the DOS days I remember a sound card commonly using an IRQ of either 5 or 7. I went into the BIOS and set the IRQ for the PCI slot my X-Fi is on to 7. Booted into Windows and reinstalled the driver. After rebooting I had a working sound card. I've rebooted only three times, but so far it's good.
my point is, as it sounds like from your comments you been around in the same days i have been, irq's cant be overloaded, no matter it its windows 98 or XP, XP can manage them better and they wont react as badly as th eold os's but still you cant shove resource hungry hardware all on teh same IRQ. it can and will cause issues. even if its simply performance issues you just need to have better IRQ placement.
That is the main reason why ACPI expanded the IRQ list to 27 (i think it is 27 or is it 25, i forget.) hardware was getting too crowded, and issues started arrising)
So now you have gigabyte who takes almost all of the main components of your PC and shovbes them all on IRQ's 18 and 19. wtf do they expect.
my comment of knowing which IRQ you are reserving is a true statement.
Dont take the same IRQ that your realtime clock is sitting on and put it to something.
very specific hardware uses the same IRQ almost all the time, and if you use that IRQ for something else, well you get the idea.
i simply stated and stand by my previous statement.
check your IRQ list before you go reserving one. just make sure its not overloaded.
not only that but if you, say reserve IRQ 14, and 14 has some major components on it, they will be forced to another IRQ and if another IRQ isnt free or if windows known not to use that other IRQ, then what is going to happen ? its going to get put on another over populated IRQ or not put on an IRQ at all and you will get BSOD or non booting issues.
alot of scenerios can take place so just look before you leap.
if you guys try this and it actually works.... please report it .. people need to know that this fix actually works!
I just got done with more testing and I'm unhappy to report that this method DOES NOT WORK! I've used IRQ 5, 7, 10, 12, 15. About 25% of the time Windows will boot with the lovely PC speaker for sound. Anyone have a real fix or do I have to wait for GigaByte to fix it?
Edit: Just to make things clear, no matter what I set the IRQ to in the BIOS, Windows will still assign the card an IRQ of 18. That is, when the card is actually detected correctly by windows. Same thing for my DLink wireless network card. I can set it to anything in the BIOS, but Windows will assign it IRQ 19. The POST summary screen does show the IRQ I set in the BIOS. Changing the IRQ manually in the BIOS for an X-Fi card will not fix the Windows detection problem.