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RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
17,618
2
76
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
29,932
3
81
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

its a better weapon than your default. In halo 2 that wasn't the case. Even with dual wielding htem I would often Opt for the default single wield and grenades.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,500
6,338
126
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

there is an SMG in H3 ... don't know if you were questionioning klok or what heh.

also the needler is an AWESOME weapon in the right times.

if someone is running directly towards you from medium range it's probably the best weapon to have.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
17,618
2
76
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

there is an SMG in H3 ... don't know if you were questionioning klok or what heh.

also the needler is an AWESOME weapon in the right times.

if someone is running directly towards you from medium range it's probably the best weapon to have.

Heh. Oops my bad. Guess I've never picked it up or tried using it. Then again I haven't played H3 in over a week, just too damn busy.

And I still stick to my needler assessment. It's about as noob of a weapon as the noob combo from H2. What's skilled about holding down the trigger and not even having to aim?
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
And I still stick to my needler assessment. It's about as noob of a weapon as the noob combo from H2. What's skilled about holding down the trigger and not even having to aim?

It doesn't take much to avoid the needler needles now. Nothing like H1 or H2 where they were like the smart bullets from Runaway.

Plus, it takes an entire clip of them to take someone out unless their shields are down. Just jump and/or weave and a few will miss ensuring that not much damage will be done.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,500
6,338
126
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

there is an SMG in H3 ... don't know if you were questionioning klok or what heh.

also the needler is an AWESOME weapon in the right times.

if someone is running directly towards you from medium range it's probably the best weapon to have.

Heh. Oops my bad. Guess I've never picked it up or tried using it. Then again I haven't played H3 in over a week, just too damn busy.

And I still stick to my needler assessment. It's about as noob of a weapon as the noob combo from H2. What's skilled about holding down the trigger and not even having to aim?

well it's really only good in the 1 situation I mentioned above. other than that it's useless, so I don't see how it's such a noob weapon.

the noob combo in h2 you could use on anyone in any instance because the tracking of the PP.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
17,618
2
76
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

there is an SMG in H3 ... don't know if you were questionioning klok or what heh.

also the needler is an AWESOME weapon in the right times.

if someone is running directly towards you from medium range it's probably the best weapon to have.

Heh. Oops my bad. Guess I've never picked it up or tried using it. Then again I haven't played H3 in over a week, just too damn busy.

And I still stick to my needler assessment. It's about as noob of a weapon as the noob combo from H2. What's skilled about holding down the trigger and not even having to aim?

well it's really only good in the 1 situation I mentioned above. other than that it's useless, so I don't see how it's such a noob weapon.

the noob combo in h2 you could use on anyone in any instance because the tracking of the PP.

Well Queasy summed it up nicely. Guess I need to play more H3
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
Matchmaking Update

Halo 3's Matchmaking Playlists, just like Halo 2's, are dynamic and ever-changing entities. Even now in the perilous Bungie towers, we're looking at new hoppers, gametypes and modes to test for future iterations and changes of these playlists. Multiplayer Lead Tyson Green and test wunderkind David Gasca sent the following list of changes to us -- and these changes are live now:

* Big Team Battle matches are now 16-player affairs.
* In the Team Slayer playlist, the appearance of Shotty Snipers has been greatly reduced.
* Now, when players veto Shotty Snipers, the game that results from the veto will not be Shotty Snipers.
* In one-sided VIP matches, the attacking team will now see a waypoint for the VIP they are hunting.
* In Lone Wolves, Slayer gametypes will appear more frequently.

I think I was noticing this last night as Shotty Snipers barely showed up compared to previous nights.
 

azazyel

Diamond Member
Oct 6, 2000
5,872
1
81
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: azazyel
These stats are killing me, they dumped all the games I played on the 7th and skipped to the 8th and none of my campain stuff is showing.

I think it's just taking awhile for them to process the stats.

I hope so cause I'm still missing an enitre day.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,500
6,338
126
Originally posted by: Queasy
Matchmaking Update

Halo 3's Matchmaking Playlists, just like Halo 2's, are dynamic and ever-changing entities. Even now in the perilous Bungie towers, we're looking at new hoppers, gametypes and modes to test for future iterations and changes of these playlists. Multiplayer Lead Tyson Green and test wunderkind David Gasca sent the following list of changes to us -- and these changes are live now:

* Big Team Battle matches are now 16-player affairs.
* In the Team Slayer playlist, the appearance of Shotty Snipers has been greatly reduced.
* Now, when players veto Shotty Snipers, the game that results from the veto will not be Shotty Snipers.
* In one-sided VIP matches, the attacking team will now see a waypoint for the VIP they are hunting.
* In Lone Wolves, Slayer gametypes will appear more frequently.

I think I was noticing this last night as Shotty Snipers barely showed up compared to previous nights.

OH HELL FREAKING YES! FINALLY!

now maybe I'll actually start playing ranked matchmaking. i hope the level variance is also changed slightly. i've played Guardian like 3 times and so far it seems like one of the better maps.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
16,367
4
81
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

Yeah I do the shoot wack all the time, I still think it's dumb though.
 

azazyel

Diamond Member
Oct 6, 2000
5,872
1
81
Originally posted by: Kev


Yeah I do the shoot wack all the time, I still think it's dumb though.

I like it especially when people do it without thinking. People come running up to you trying to do the shoot wack but they didn't notice I had a shotgun.

Also, from H2 to H3 it seems that switching weapons takes a lot longer. You can't hide weapons anymore and then switch them out at the last second. I used to do that all the time with the sword. I'd just pretend to run away from someone to get them closer, switch to sword and kill them.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,500
6,338
126
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Kev


Yeah I do the shoot wack all the time, I still think it's dumb though.

I like it especially when people do it without thinking. People come running up to you trying to do the shoot wack but they didn't notice I had a shotgun.

Also, from H2 to H3 it seems that switching weapons takes a lot longer. You can't hide weapons anymore and then switch them out at the last second. I used to do that all the time with the sword. I'd just pretend to run away from someone to get them closer, switch to sword and kill them.

Yea, and I love that

also you can no longer "hide" weapons because your secondary weapon is on your back. even if the sword is not equipped on someone it's very easy to tell they are carrying it.

I strongly welcome those changes, especially how they dummied down the sword greatly.
 

EvilComputer92

Golden Member
Aug 25, 2004
1,316
0
0
There are so many times the game comes down to pure luck. If you are both running down to each other with an assault rifle, then you smack each other, and then it's just comes down to whoever gets the most hits with their assault rifle.

Also, the needler is a good weapon if it could actually hit someone.
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Anyone else lovin' the changes to existing weapons?

The SMG is badass now! The human shotgun is even more powerful. Oh yeah & the needler... love that shit now.

The "beatdowns" are retarded though. Ways to kill people:

1) 3 shotgun shots
2) Empty a 30 round clip into them
3) Blow them up with a rocket
4) Empty a needler clip into them
5) Destroy them with a giant hammer
6) Stab them with an electric sword
7) ELBOW THEM IN THE FACE?????????

To Klok - there is no SMG?

Kev - #1 - you need to shoot/wack - technique with shotgun ever since Halo 1. Shoot, then wack if you're close enough. You can't immediately shoot again with the shotgun anyway, so it's almost guaranteed to kill since H1 by doing a shoot/wack.

PS - anyone that thinks the needler is a good weapon is just a skillless fvcking noob.

Yeah I do the shoot wack all the time, I still think it's dumb though.

I think doing the shoot/wack with the Mauler is slightly faster than the shotgun and just as effective. The Mauler doesn't have the range of the shotgun though.
 
Oct 19, 2000
17,860
4
81
I'll admit, a majority of my kills online are with the melee. But, I've used it many times where it didn't kill the guy off, and he was able to counter.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,500
6,338
126
Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'll admit, a majority of my kills online are with the melee. But, I've used it many times where it didn't kill the guy off, and he was able to counter.

better than duel wielding a ton like in h2.

bungie straight up said that h3 is about the 3 key elements that were what made h1 so great - grenades, close gun fights, and melee's.
 

bucwylde23

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2005
4,180
0
71
damn, the 8vs8 big team battles are CRAZY! There's almost too many people on some of the gametypes.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
48,920
46
91
Are there differences in the melee damage dealt by the different guns?

I assume the location of the melee attack affects the damage dealt, right?

I wasn't a fan of the prevalence of melee attacks when I first started playing online. But I've adapted and learned to do pretty well with them myself - it's now my top "weapon" by far.
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
Originally posted by: mugs
Are there differences in the melee damage dealt by the different guns?

I assume the location of the melee attack affects the damage dealt, right?

I wasn't a fan of the prevalence of melee attacks when I first started playing online. But I've adapted and learned to do pretty well with them myself - it's now my top "weapon" by far.

Yeah. All the Brute weapons have blades on them. This makes them more damaging than all the other guns when doing melee.

Though, I'm not sure how much more damaging. It seems like it still take two good melee hits to take someone down when they have shields unless you get them in the head or from behind. One hit with no shields.
 
Oct 19, 2000
17,860
4
81
I'm mad because my stats still have not updated online. Granted, I haven't played online since Sunday night, but I'm not sure if playing a match will magically unlock the rest of my missing stats over the weekend to process too.
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm mad because my stats still have not updated online. Granted, I haven't played online since Sunday night, but I'm not sure if playing a match will magically unlock the rest of my missing stats over the weekend to process too.

Looks like they are slowly catching up on the stats but are still behind. I'm still showing as a Corporal Grade 2 despite making Sargent Grade 2 last night. They're a good 3 days behind.


edit: Hmm, if I go to the Career Stats -> Rating History page, it shows that I've been promoted to Sergeant - Grade 2 but it still shows me as only having 17 EXP.
 
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