OFFICIAL KEPLER "GTX680" Reviews

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Janooo

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hey janoo i disagree with keys 9 times outa 8, but hes right about temps and power. not saying you are wrong, but i wouldn't immediately discredit his statement.

1.2v gpu at 30C liquid is going to use less power than the same 1.2v gpu with the block off on an air cooler running at 90C.
Correct, having said that how much power do you save when your GPU goes from 80C to 75C?
 

Crap Daddy

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I remember yesterday there was somebody here who questioned the ability of the GTX680 to run games on 1300MHz core (stock cooling). Well, here it is:

 

Grooveriding

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After reading more on GPU boost and watching some of Linus' cool videos on it I am looking forward to seeing how they react to being put on water cooling and kept under 50C load temps.

Since it is partially dependent on temps and power draw, I am hoping the lower temps and power draw from water will allow gpu boost with overclocking to give better results than have been seen in these reviews.

Linus' video has an interesting finding about playing with OCing the card. He found a performance boost with a certain clock offset and better performance, but the card also let him set a higher overclock that resulted in getting stock rather than OC peformance. The GPU Boost system started holding the card back because of the higher OC and power draw/temps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRChkEvBXQA&list=UUXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw&index=5&feature=plcp
 

blackened23

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I remember yesterday there was somebody here who questioned the ability of the GTX680 to run games on 1300MHz core (stock cooling). Well, here it is:


Clock speed alone doesn't mean much, whats important is how well does it scale per MHz? So far it doesn't seem to scale as well as i'd like. The most i've seen on websites is 15% with a 150mhz offset, which is less than how well the 7970 scales with higher clocks.

In my own testing i'm not gaining much with a 100mhz offset. I gained about 3 fps in crysis 2, i'm not sure if this is attributable to early drivers or beta overclocking software or what.
 

Crap Daddy

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Clock speed alone doesn't mean much, whats important is how well does it scale per MHz? So far it doesn't seem to scale as well as i'd like. The most i've seen on websites is 15% with a 150mhz offset, which is less than how well the 7970 scales with higher clocks.

In my own testing i'm not gaining much with a 100mhz offset. I gained about 3 fps in crysis 2, i'm not sure if this is attributable to early drivers or beta overclocking software or what.

Maybe you'll have to play more with them or it depends on games. I see here good scaling:


An overclocked GTX680 gets better minimums that the average 7970 OCed.
 

notty22

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I remember yesterday there was somebody here who questioned the ability of the GTX680 to run games on 1300MHz core (stock cooling). Well, here it is:


Nice, the manual ramp of the fan probably helps all that happen, but that is not uncommon. I believe some of the max o/c's reported with the tested 7970's were done with fan also near 100%.



edit: Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang Emails Thanks to Employees
----Original Message-----
From: Jensen H Huang
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:48 AM
To: Employees
Subject: Kepler Rising

Today, the first Kepler - GTX 680 - is on shelves around the world!

Three years in the making. The endeavor of a thousand of the world's best engineers. One vision - build a revolutionary GPU and make a giant leap in efficient-performance.

Achieving efficient-performance, great performance while consuming the least possible energy, required us to change our entire design approach. Close collaboration between architecture-design-VLSI-software-devtech-systems, intense scrutiny on where energy is spent, and inventions at every level were necessary. The results are fantastic as you will see in the reviews.

Kepler also cultivated a passion for craftsmanship - nothing wasted, everything put together with care - with a goal of creating an exquisite product that works wonderfully. Let's continue to raise the bar and establish extraordinary craftsmanship as a hallmark of our company.

Today is just the beginning of Kepler. Because of its super energy-efficient architecture, we will extend GPUs into datacenters, to super thin notebooks, to superphones. Not to mention bring joy and delight to millions of gamers around the world.

I want to thank all that gave your heart and soul to create Kepler. You've created something wonderful.

Congratulations everyone!
Jensen
 
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blackened23

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Maybe you'll have to play more with them or it depends on games. I see here good scaling:


An overclocked GTX680 gets better minimums that the average 7970 OCed.

I think it does depend on title. What I noticed is that GPU boost produces different max clocks depending on game, for instance in bf3 my GPU clock is 1258 and GPU2 is 1245. But if I play crysis, they're slightly lower. BF3 is one of the best titles on the 680 right now with outstanding sli scaling.

However, some other titles have little to no scaling with overclocking and poor sli scaling. This could very well be due to early drivers. In any case, one good example you can watch is the linus tech tips review on oc'ing, he has a pretty good array of games he tests there and quite a few don't scale with oc'ing for some reason. Witcher 2 and crysis do not scale well with higher GPU clock offsets, they both gain 2-3 fps from the testing i've been doing. GPU Boost is very weird in that some games produce max clocks and others don't, and it doesn't appear to have anything to do with how demanding the game is.

VERY weird.
 
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blackened23

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Anyone get theirs yet and use Evga precision to boost TDP to +50%?

You can't do +50%. You can do 132% of TDP with EVGA precision X, which AFAIK is the only app that works with the 680...

So far i'm using 132% power limit, with 100mhz offset and 100 mhz memory offset. If I go higher than that I get tons of TDPs.

Afterburner doesn't work (even the latest beta)
 

tviceman

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Clock speed alone doesn't mean much, whats important is how well does it scale per MHz? So far it doesn't seem to scale as well as i'd like. The most i've seen on websites is 15% with a 150mhz offset, which is less than how well the 7970 scales with higher clocks.

In my own testing i'm not gaining much with a 100mhz offset. I gained about 3 fps in crysis 2, i'm not sure if this is attributable to early drivers or beta overclocking software or what.

My guess is with gtx680, more often than not memory speeds are going to have to overclock as well as core speeds (percentage-wise) to get the best scaling. In other words, I think there will be more instances with the gtx680 when overclocking only the core won't produce scaling as good as when overclocking only the core on hd7970.

So, in yet again other other words, gtx680's overclock scaling will rely more on memory overclocking than hd7970's does.
 

blackened23

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Yeah i'm going to fiddle with that a bit. Thats quite opposite of Fermi where memory had little impact, whereas GPU clock made a major difference....of course the memory controller on Fermi was semi broken.

None of this is meant as a slight to the 680, i'm extremely impressed with the stock speed, and the quietness of the card..... but the overclocking situation leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm going to wait for a few more rounds of driver updates, or maybe its a BIOS issue. Its just one of those things you deal with as an early adopter I guess.
 

Grooveriding

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Yeah i'm going to fiddle with that a bit. Thats quite opposite of Fermi where memory had little impact, whereas GPU clock made a major difference....of course the memory controller on Fermi was semi broken.

None of this is meant as a slight to the 680, i'm extremely impressed with the stock speed, and the quietness of the card..... but the overclocking situation leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm going to wait for a few more rounds of driver updates, or maybe its a BIOS issue. Its just one of those things you deal with as an early adopter I guess.

What drivers are you using ? The 300.99 or 301.10 ?

I also second OCing the memory. Card could use more memory bandwidth and some reviewers said they saw bigger gains from memory than core.

Some of the poor results in some games and better in other could be drivers. The card is just out and I'm sure BF3 would be one the games that got the most attention driver wise.
 

blackened23

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What drivers are you using ? The 300.99 or 301.10 ?

I also second OCing the memory. Card could use more memory bandwidth and some reviewers said they saw bigger gains from memory than core.

Some of the poor results in some games and better in other could be drivers. The card is just out and I'm sure BF3 would be one the games that got the most attention driver wise.

Using 301.10. I'm going to do some tests with memory oc's, so far GPU clock is being problematic. I get TDPs when I go higher than 100mhz offset on the gpu core.

Do you get uneven clockspeeds between gpu 1 and gpu 2? I think ASIC quality also limits your GPU boost speeds. GPU2 is consistently lower than GPU1 even when they're both set to the same GPU offset overclock.
 

tviceman

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Yeah i'm going to fiddle with that a bit. Thats quite opposite of Fermi where memory had little impact, whereas GPU clock made a major difference....of course the memory controller on Fermi was semi broken.

Well it's only logical reason why it isn't scaling great in all instances with just core overclocking. GTX680 has 50% more shader power than gtx580, 3 times the fillrate, but the exact same amount memory bandwidth.
 

thilanliyan

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Here's the missing bit of that email:

"Props go out to our loyal fanboys and fangirls for keeping it together during these past couple of months. Your efforts at whining about the 7 series cards' prices and performance increase are appreciated. We know you are willing to pay a premium for nV cards and we have given you exactly that! If you think the GTX680 is great...just wait until we bring you the REAL high end.

ARE YOU READY?!!!!!!!!!!

Your bestest friend,
JHH"


 

Lepton87

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I find calling this card the new king of the hill in single gpu cards disingenuous. For example how can anand claim that without even comparing it against MSI7970 Lightning. I think that card is actually faster at 2560.
 

Crap Daddy

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Here's the missing bit of that email:

"Props go out to our loyal fanboys and fangirls for keeping it together during these past couple of months. Your efforts at whining about the 7 series cards' prices and performance increase are appreciated. We know you are willing to pay a premium for nV cards and we have given you exactly that! If you think the GTX680 is great...just wait until we bring you the REAL high end.

ARE YOU READY?!!!!!!!!!!

Your bestest friend,
JHH"



Didn't know that also AMD fanboys get mails from Jen Hsun. Aparently he sent you one.
 

thilanliyan

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Didn't know that also AMD fanboys get mails from Jen Hsun. Aparently he sent you one.

Yeah, weird...I mean I buy both AMD AND nVidia. Not sure why he mistook me for a fanboy. Must have been meant for *$%^&@#.

EDIT: Ah shoot that name keeps being edited out by ATI Viral.

EDIT: Oops I meant nV viral.

 

Tempered81

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Maybe you'll have to play more with them or it depends on games. I see here good scaling:


An overclocked GTX680 gets better minimums that the average 7970 OCed.

Did you see the 7970 beating 680 SLI on that review in high-res BF3? Also where is that 1335 core 680 review from? The asus 680 review from vrzone?
 

BallaTheFeared

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You can't do +50%. You can do 132% of TDP with EVGA precision X, which AFAIK is the only app that works with the 680...

So far i'm using 132% power limit, with 100mhz offset and 100 mhz memory offset. If I go higher than that I get tons of TDPs.

Afterburner doesn't work (even the latest beta)

TDPs?

Seems awful...


Give it a bit of time, it took a bit but they cracked Fermi.

Overclocking is the best part about hardware :|
 

Olikan

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I think it does depend on title. What I noticed is that GPU boost produces different max clocks depending on game, for instance in bf3 my GPU clock is 1258 and GPU2 is 1245. But if I play crysis, they're slightly lower. BF3 is one of the best titles on the 680 right now with outstanding sli scaling.

VERY weird.

nop... nvidia made a just made a BAD turbo boost...
unlike intel and amd turbos, nvidia pushed the turbo to the card's limit

the problem is that diferent gpus have diferent ASICs... and clocks can't be reached in a pattern

so...a every kepler is will have a diferent max performance than others
 

Crap Daddy

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Did you see the 7970 beating 680 SLI on that review in high-res BF3? Also where is that 1335 core 680 review from? The asus 680 review from vrzone?

It's from vr-zone. You mean this:



I don't see 7970 CF beating 680 SLI. I put on the highest res.
 
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