Official Modern Warfare 2 thread

[digiram]

For close-medium range the Tar is decent but it recoils too much to be effective at long range...I mean it's terrible. I was in the center building on Derailed shooting out a window with the Tar and it took me almost 2 magazines to kill the guy I hit him so infrequently. That was with slow burst fire too.

Tar is fantastic in 3rd person play though.

It's great for Close Quarters, but I can usually catch people at a decent range with it as well. It only takes a few burst to kill someone with it.

I was in a match once, ran out of ammo, picked up a Scar, and was staring down a guy from a Window at subbase. He was right below me and I was blasting the guy with it, the shots were flying all over the place and I couldn't even kill him with a full clip. He turned around and killed me...messed up my streak. I was better off jumping out the window with my pump shotty or even a knife attempt.

 

[Kabob]

FMJ doesn't increase the damage at all, it just adds extra penetration.

 

[dougp]

FMJ doesn't increase the damage at all, it just adds extra penetration.

Then why does it show the damage meter going up?

 

[GrantMeThePower]

I think I like the Tar-21 more than most people it seems. My first play through i didn't give it much attention at all but after prestiging i've tried it a few times and had some really good rounds with it- 28-3, 17-0 were two that stood out. Its just so powerful and i never use stopping power.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Then why does it show the damage meter going up?

Because the meters lie. FMJ only decreases the loss of damage when you're shooting through a barrier. It's exactly the same as the Deep Impact perk from COD4.

Adding a silencer to a sniper rifle or LMG decreases their damage, NOT their range. But the scales show it decreasing range, which is wrong.

I don't know why IW even bothered with the scales because they don't mean anything at all. The only ones that have any bearing on reality are "Mobility" and possibly "Fire Rate."

 

[stag3]

FMJ doesn't increase the damage at all, it just adds extra penetration.

yea same, i see the damage going up by a little bit (in the stats), so i figured it did a little extra damage
this isn't the case?

there's nothing else i would use, i guess extra mags would be good for the m16 then
as i could care less about being "silent" heh

 

[SR1729]

actually over the entire weekend, we had major lag all over the place
everyone was showing 3-4 bars but it was super slow and
shots weren't registering, i thought it was just me until everyone
started complaining. i notice the host leaves 2-3 out of every 10 maps
i play now, so lame

Yep, I was running into the same issues throughout the weekend. 4 bars most of the time, but I would have guessed 1 or 2.

 

[SR1729]

For close-medium range the Tar is decent but it recoils too much to be effective at long range...I mean it's terrible. I was in the center building on Derailed shooting out a window with the Tar and it took me almost 2 magazines to kill the guy I hit him so infrequently. That was with slow burst fire too.

Tar is fantastic in 3rd person play though.

I disagree. Mobility and shotguns aside, the TAR is the best weapon (second only to the MP5k) at close range and medium range. At long range, you definitely need to burst fire it, but it still only takes 3 shots and the bursts are quite manageable.

I use the TAR on maps like Wasteland and Estate where the distance of engagement can be anything. Love it!

 

[Kabob]

Then why does it show the damage meter going up?

For the same reason it shows the FAMAS having half the damage of the M16...the graphs mean nothing...

I disagree. Mobility and shotguns aside, the TAR is the best weapon (second only to the MP5k) at close range and medium range. At long range, you definitely need to burst fire it, but it still only takes 3 shots and the bursts are quite manageable.

I use the TAR on maps like Wasteland and Estate where the distance of engagement can be anything. Love it!

Maybe I just suck with it. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it on Derailed.

 

[digiram]

I think I like the Tar-21 more than most people it seems. My first play through i didn't give it much attention at all but after prestiging i've tried it a few times and had some really good rounds with it- 28-3, 17-0 were two that stood out. Its just so powerful and i never use stopping power.

That's what I like about it. No need for stopping power, and I can use it in Estate and Derail with silencer, ninja, and cold blooded. For other maps, I use it with hardline and commando.

 

[digiram]

For the same reason it shows the FAMAS having half the damage of the M16...the graphs mean nothing...



Maybe I just suck with it. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it on Derailed.

It's probably a different style of play type thing. I know a lot of people that love the SCAR. My cousin actually plays with the SCAR and only the SCAR. Doesn't use anything else. I tried playing with it, and cannot kill anything with.

 

[PricklyPete]

Maybe I'll try the TAR or AUG next. Just have Fall Camo left on the ACR and would like to work on a new gun...although my k/d ratio is only 1.12 right now...so I could focus on that rather than upping guns.

 

[SR1729]

It's probably a different style of play type thing. I know a lot of people that love the SCAR. My cousin actually plays with the SCAR and only the SCAR. Doesn't use anything else. I tried playing with it, and cannot kill anything with.

The SCAR works great for a lot of people, and my stats even say it works for me, but I can't help but feel like I'm shooting a gun clogged with mud.

 

[Kabob]

Maybe I'll try the TAR or AUG next. Just have Fall Camo left on the ACR and would like to work on a new gun...although my k/d ratio is only 1.12 right now...so I could focus on that rather than upping guns.

AUG w/grip is one of my favorites. With stopping power it's a 2 shot kill no matter what (unless you're shooting through something).

 

[Cuda1447]

Protip: If you can't handle that recoil of the Tar, add a silencer. Ever since doing this it fits my play style MUCH better and is quite accurate at any distance. That combined with no need for stopping power, so I go with Cold Blooded/Ninja Pro and I'm an invisible killing machine.

 

[GrantMeThePower]

Here's a question for you:

Would you let your roommate, who sucks at games, play on your account knowing that it would murder your stats?

My roommate got sick of just watching me play and asked if he could do just that. I let him. But its hard watching him go 1-15

 

[Kabob]

Get him a 1 month XBL card as a "get well soon" gift and let him play his own account.

 

[digiram]

Get him a 1 month XBL card as a "get well soon" gift and let him play his own account.

I second that...lol.

Anywho, I actually have a second play around account. My cousin activated a 12 month gold account, and right after that...his xbox dies. Just past the 3 year rrod warranty...sucks. He has a ps3, and plays on that primarily so I just let my daughter and guests go crazy on his account. I'll experiment with different things on my own as well with his account like running around witch blading, trying to find javelin points, sniping(which I'm horrible at), etc.

 

[stag3]

Here's a question for you:

Would you let your roommate, who sucks at games, play on your account knowing that it would murder your stats?

My roommate got sick of just watching me play and asked if he could do just that. I let him. But its hard watching him go 1-15

if you care about stats, i didn't really before but now that i'm positive i kinda do =)

 

[AstroManLuca]

I'd let him because I don't care about my stats. Although it's nice seeing my kills number higher than my deaths (only about a 1.1 ratio but still).

 

[Tifosi248F1]

I must be in the minority like SR1729 and GrantMe...I absolutely love the TAR. Silenced Tar is on all my AR classes. One for stealth with CB and ninja, one with a Stinger for AA, and a main one where I just switch out secondaries and perks to level them up. The SCAR, while nice, just doesn't have the mag capacity. I played a match with the F2000 and god do I hate it. Rate of fire is insane, could barely hit anything, and what I did hit never seemed to die. I don't think I'll be able to use it longer than 75 kills.

 

[digiram]

if you care about stats, i didn't really before but now that i'm positive i kinda do =)

Samething. I worked hard to get to positive, and don't feel like going back down. The xmas noob boost was a big help....lol. Now that they know how to play, I'm back to being average again...lol

 

[AstroManLuca]

FYI I've found one of the best ways to do well is to play early in the morning. I did some early morning Merc. TDM last week (~7:30-8:30 am) and people were a lot worse than in the evening. Not sure why... maybe they're older people who don't game as much as the ADD kiddies, maybe they're people who are still awake from the previous night and are thus playing through fatigue, I don't know. Perhaps it's me. But I had a much higher than average k/d ratio in almost all of the games I played early last week.

 

[Kabob]

Yeah, I've played early in the morning before and overall the skill level isn't nearly what it is in the evenings.

 

[sygyzy]

Also when you play in the mornings in the US, it's after supper[prime gaming] time in other countries. What does that tell you about foreign players?