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Kabob

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So I'm really liking the TAR-21. Great damage, good fire rate, and despite what the system says accuracy is pretty good. I like to run it with a silencer, FMJ or M203 depending on the map. Perks are Marathon Pro, Hardline Pro or Stopping Power Pro or (less frequently now) Lightweight Pro, and Ninja Pro.

The only downside with the TAR is that if I do get on a roll, I run out of ammo. I've got like ~25 or so out of the 50 required kills to get extended mags, that should help since I don't want to lose Marathon in order to get scavenger.

Get rid of Counter-UAV before you get rid of UAV.

Tar-21 isn't bad, I used it a bit last night when I played. But between it and the SCAR or M4 I'd pick either of the others.

Also, Extended Mags will add an extra 50% capacity to the magazine but will reduce the number of spare mags you have, your overall ammo amount will be the same.

In other words with the Tar you'll go from a 30 round to a 45 round magazine. Normally you'll have one mag in the rifle and two spares (90 rounds total) but with Extended Mags you'll have one mag in the rifle and one spare, but both will hold 50% more ammo (90 rounds total still). The remedy to this is to run Scavenger/Scavenger Pro but it sort of defeats the benefit of extended mags.

The only weapon I've really found Extended Mags to be more useful than most other attachments is the SCAR-H since it only holds 20 normally.
 

digiram

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Get rid of Counter-UAV before you get rid of UAV.

Tar-21 isn't bad, I used it a bit last night when I played. But between it and the SCAR or M4 I'd pick either of the others.

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I would have to disagree with this. I prefer the Tar over the Scar anyday, but would pick the m4 over both.

Scar is not bad at all, but I seem to have difficulty aiming with it despite the accuracy rating. I did work with it for bit and unlocked everything besides ext. mags for it. I learned to like it, but liked the Tar much more.

With the Tar, controlled firing can be used to kill people long range and it's deadly at close/medium range.
 

fbrdphreak

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Thanks for the info on the Extended Mags - I was wondering about that. No more ammo, booo.

As for the UAV, I dunno about you but I find having my radar totally disabled to be a real bitch. Maybe the l33t players don't mind it as much, but I guess I just see that is inhibiting the enemy more than having a UAV benefits me. Besides, my teammates call UAVs regularly in probly 2/3 games I play. And as helpful as the UAV is, the only time it helps me avoid death is when someone is camping. Now that I know most of the camping spots on the maps, it's not as big of a deal.

Yeah I need to try and practice with other rifles. I get caught up on one when it works for me. I still haven't gotten the hang of the M16.

I got on to play a little before work, dreading the impending Munday, and damn if all the little MW2 whores weren't playing. 4-5 people on each match had 1500+ points when I would join, with the top 2 having 2500-3000+. I didn't get totally bitch slapped, but it wasn't pretty. College kids with nothing to do?
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
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With the Tar, controlled firing can be used to kill people long range and it's deadly at close/medium range.
Agreed. I was surprised how accurate it can be if you aim first and do a couple short bursts. And the damage rating kills em fast. I aim low and get a lot of long distance head shots. I also tried the ACOG for more range, but it's soooo slow aiming I just got raped. I tried it on that new map with the apartments, bad place I guess.
 

digiram

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Agreed. I was surprised how accurate it can be if you aim first and do a couple short bursts. And the damage rating kills em fast. I aim low and get a lot of long distance head shots. I also tried the ACOG for more range, but it's soooo slow aiming I just got raped. I tried it on that new map with the apartments, bad place I guess.

Only thing I hate is the big oval red dot on it. However, I think it has the best iron sights of all the AR's. Maybe that's because I can't stand to use any of the sight attachments for it, and just used to the iron sights.
 

GCS

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Shockingly enough I have gone back to the M4.

As of late it seems to be my best weapon. ACR is my second choice.

I have figured out on all the smaller maps I am better off running around with shottie vs my AR. As soon as I get near an open area I switch to the AR. This has helped me a lot as I was getting picked off coming around edges/corners/tight spots etc and now having the shottie in hand I am winning just about all of the face offs.

This doesn't help with campers at all but if they are moving about I win (even against a couple of 2 handed raffica guys yesterday, LOL)

I usually run iron sights on all guns but I have come to really like the red dot on the M4. I will only run ACOG if I am on an open map and anticipate nothing but long shots (Wasteland anyone) or if I am in a Domination/Sabotage style game and am guarding the objective from a distance.

Greg
 
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basslover1

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Agreed. I was surprised how accurate it can be if you aim first and do a couple short bursts. And the damage rating kills em fast. I aim low and get a lot of long distance head shots. I also tried the ACOG for more range, but it's soooo slow aiming I just got raped. I tried it on that new map with the apartments, bad place I guess.


The TAR is deadly accurate if you burst fire for long range. Unless they're far away and hiding behind something, it's only about 3-4 shots from long range, which is usually only one burst. It jumps up when you hold the trigger, but but once you let go it falls back to where you were originally aiming which is what makes burst firing so effective with it.

Plus, add a silencer and it kicks even less.
 

Kabob

Lifer
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Get rid of Counter-UAV before you get rid of UAV.

Tar-21 isn't bad, I used it a bit last night when I played. But between it and the SCAR or M4 I'd pick either of the others.

I would have to disagree with this. I prefer the Tar over the Scar anyday, but would pick the m4 over both.

Which is why this game is so great, not everything works the same for everybody, each of the weapons suits one play style differently. The Tar is good and despite the fact that I don't like it much it seems that when I actually use it I don't do half bad.

That said, I have probably 800 more SCAR kills than anything else.

Only thing I hate is the big oval red dot on it. However, I think it has the best iron sights of all the AR's. Maybe that's because I can't stand to use any of the sight attachments for it, and just used to the iron sights.

The Tar irons "should" be great for me but for some reason I do not like them. Rear aperature is too big and close to the body of the rifle which restricts your view I suppose. With the SCAR or M4 you've got both the aperatures on "towers" if youw ill which opens up the view a good bit. Red dot on the Tar I used to hate, now it's not so bad. Holographic is still better though.

Thanks for the info on the Extended Mags - I was wondering about that. No more ammo, booo.

Yeah I need to try and practice with other rifles. I get caught up on one when it works for me. I still haven't gotten the hang of the M16.

I got on to play a little before work, dreading the impending Munday, and damn if all the little MW2 whores weren't playing. 4-5 people on each match had 1500+ points when I would join, with the top 2 having 2500-3000+. I didn't get totally bitch slapped, but it wasn't pretty. College kids with nothing to do?

Yeah, I didn't know about extended mags either until I unlocked 'em and used 'em on an MP5k...I was hoping for more ammo as well. I have them on my SCAR-H setup with Scavenger so that I have 30 rounds in the mag but also the 120 or so in reserve as well.

M16 takes some getting used to, I like it alot more than the FAMAS even though they do just about the same thing.

I too play before work every once in a while (when the wife and I don't carpool which is rare). Usually only a game or two though.

As for UAV vs. Counter-UAV I greatly prefer knowing where I will likely run into people than having them not-know where I am. Unless they're shooting when you've got a C-UAV up you're really on equal ground. You don't know where they are, they don't know where you are. With UAV though you get a direct advantage that's always in your favor.

Just how I see it though.

Shockingly enough I have gone back to the M4.

Umm...that's not even remotely close to shocking. Shocking would be that you've decided to use an AA-12 as a sniper rifle. The M4 is solid, very much so. One of the most balanced and versatile weapons in the game. You can use it on lvl 70 and beyond and it won't fail you.

I think there are other weapons that can be more efficient in certain areas (SCAR/M16/FAMAS for long range, UMP/RPD/AUG/Tar close-medium range, etc) but the M4 does all of them well.

I never use the ACOG either, only time I use it is when getting attachment unlock points.

Plus, add a silencer and it kicks even less.

Which defies logic/physics. The weapon should kick MORE when adding a suppressor due to the increased backpressure. Seems like every VG does that though.
 
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digiram

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Umm...that's not even remotely close to shocking. Shocking would be that you've decided to use an AA-12 as a sniper rifle. The M4 is solid, very much so. One of the most balanced and versatile weapons in the game. You can use it on lvl 70 and beyond and it won't fail you.

I think there are other weapons that can be more efficient in certain areas (SCAR/M16/FAMAS for long range, UMP/RPD/AUG/Tar close-medium range, etc) but the M4 does all of them well.

I never use the ACOG either, only time I use it is when getting attachment unlock points.

Gotta agree 100% with this. Also, the M4 is the only gun that I ever went all the way to unlocking the fall camou and extended mags with.

It's funny how we both like the m4, but disagree completely on the scar vs. tar.
 

gorcorps

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Anybody else feeling how useless many of the killstreaks are in hardcore mode? I mean the vast majority of them require or at least are very much helped by the other team not having Cold Blooded on... which pretty much everyone does. I've played on hardcore for a while but really have just noticed how none of the killstreaks are worth a shit anymore. It's sort of nice because that means usually one team doesn't dominate through killstreaks alone and they have to get some regular kills, but it's still frustrating.
 

digiram

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Anybody else feeling how useless many of the killstreaks are in hardcore mode? I mean the vast majority of them require or at least are very much helped by the other team not having Cold Blooded on... which pretty much everyone does. I've played on hardcore for a while but really have just noticed how none of the killstreaks are worth a shit anymore. It's sort of nice because that means usually one team doesn't dominate through killstreaks alone and they have to get some regular kills, but it's still frustrating.

Sorry man, but I don't play hc much at all. Seems like the biggest camp fest. If I were to play that though, I would definitely run CB as SP is useless since it's a few shots kill with any gun pretty much.

I played one HC match with a friend on derail and went 1-9. I died 9 times straight before I decided to just camp and get the one kill in before the match ended.
 

digiram

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Thanks for the info on the Extended Mags - I was wondering about that. No more ammo, booo.

As for the UAV, I dunno about you but I find having my radar totally disabled to be a real bitch. Maybe the l33t players don't mind it as much, but I guess I just see that is inhibiting the enemy more than having a UAV benefits me. Besides, my teammates call UAVs regularly in probly 2/3 games I play. And as helpful as the UAV is, the only time it helps me avoid death is when someone is camping. Now that I know most of the camping spots on the maps, it's not as big of a deal.

Yeah I need to try and practice with other rifles. I get caught up on one when it works for me. I still haven't gotten the hang of the M16.

I got on to play a little before work, dreading the impending Munday, and damn if all the little MW2 whores weren't playing. 4-5 people on each match had 1500+ points when I would join, with the top 2 having 2500-3000+. I didn't get totally bitch slapped, but it wasn't pretty. College kids with nothing to do?


Now that I'm used to it...I really like the m16. However, I can't stand the iron sights on it. I usually use the red dot with it. Since it's a 1 burst kill with stopping power, you can easily mow down a group of 3 people with one clip. I was using it when I finally got a nuke.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Anybody else feeling how useless many of the killstreaks are in hardcore mode? I mean the vast majority of them require or at least are very much helped by the other team not having Cold Blooded on... which pretty much everyone does. I've played on hardcore for a while but really have just noticed how none of the killstreaks are worth a shit anymore. It's sort of nice because that means usually one team doesn't dominate through killstreaks alone and they have to get some regular kills, but it's still frustrating.

I've played a lil' HC lately with some friends and I agree, most of the killstreaks are useless.

When I play I typically run UAV and Sentry Gun (at the off chance that one or two doesn't have CB) as well as Precision Airstrike. I wish that Sentry Gun targeted people with CB on but it isn't so.

With Precision Airstrike though you can at least see where your teammates are and avoid them while hopefully get a free kill or two.
 

Kabob

Lifer
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Now that I'm used to it...I really like the m16. However, I can't stand the iron sights on it. I usually use the red dot with it. Since it's a 1 burst kill with stopping power, you can easily mow down a group of 3 people with one clip. I was using it when I finally got a nuke.

First two prestiges I hated the M16's irons. This time though I decided to get all the attachments (which meant I had to use 'em) and the title and actually decided I liked 'em. Not quite as good as some of the other weapon's nor as it is with red dot or EOTech but not terrible.
 

chedrz

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Now that I'm used to it...I really like the m16. However, I can't stand the iron sights on it. I usually use the red dot with it. Since it's a 1 burst kill with stopping power, you can easily mow down a group of 3 people with one clip. I was using it when I finally got a nuke.

Very, very true. It's even possible without stopping power. I had the bad luck of spawning next to 5 enemies on Sub Base once, and killed them all with one M16 mag WITHOUT stopping power. I know I said "What the f***!" so I can only imagine what they were thinking.
 

Kabob

Lifer
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Played a few games last night with RAMM and blowfish (separately). Sorry I dissappeared RAMM, my modem (stupid Charter rental) has been dying on me lately, disconnected me in the first minute or so of the game. Methinks it's time to call 'em and have it replaced, it's getting annoying. Was fun while it lasted though!

I only did so-so last night. Best moment though was getting the last kill of the game at long range with a non-stopping powere'd SCAR-H on Highrise when both teams were tied at 7400-7400. I actually went negative KDR on that match but the final kill to help the team made it worth it.

Fun times, once I finish unlocking attachments for the FAL and TAR hopefully I'll start scoring better!
 

digiram

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Played a few games last night with RAMM and blowfish (separately). Sorry I dissappeared RAMM, my modem (stupid Charter rental) has been dying on me lately, disconnected me in the first minute or so of the game. Methinks it's time to call 'em and have it replaced, it's getting annoying. Was fun while it lasted though!

I only did so-so last night. Best moment though was getting the last kill of the game at long range with a non-stopping powere'd SCAR-H on Highrise when both teams were tied at 7400-7400. I actually went negative KDR on that match but the final kill to help the team made it worth it.

Fun times, once I finish unlocking attachments for the FAL and TAR hopefully I'll start scoring better!

That's the match I finally did well on and was waiting for 1 more kill from my harrier to get the ac-130 when you ended the match...lol.

Salvage is the most uneven map in the game.
 

Kabob

Lifer
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That's the match I finally did well on and was waiting for 1 more kill from my harrier to get the ac-130 when you ended the match...lol.

Salvage is the most uneven map in the game.

I don't think so, the map I disconnected on was the Domination match on Overgrown and it was very early on in the game. After I finally got my modem reset I logged back on and it said you were still playing there. I was there for the match where you were one kill away from your AC-130 (that was Storm I thought).

I don't mind Salvage much, I play alright from either side.
 

digiram

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I don't think so, the map I disconnected on was the Domination match on Overgrown and it was very early on in the game. After I finally got my modem reset I logged back on and it said you were still playing there. I was there for the match where you were one kill away from your AC-130 (that was Storm I thought).

I don't mind Salvage much, I play alright from either side.

I wish I had disconnected from that overgrown match. We were dominated on that one.
 

Kabob

Lifer
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I wish I had disconnected from that overgrown match. We were dominated on that one.

Yeah, it was right after they captured B at the start of the game. I was shooting at the guy capping, it popped up that they'd captured it and about 10 seconds later I was done...
 
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