Official Modern Warfare 2 thread

[bob4432]

What's your point? Whether it's P2P or dedicated servers, it's not their fault when there is latency between players and the server.

by relying on consumer grade connections and not datacenters for the hosting it is their fault for introducing latency in the game because that is how they made it.

it is a large cost savings to iw not to have to keep up dedicated game servers and now paying customers are having to deal w/ it, so iw can just make more $$$

i can understand p2p connections for certain types of games, but not fps where 10-20ms can easily mean the difference between winning and losing, multiply this by many times in a game and the gaming begins to suffer greatly.

again, anybody know how much bandwidth the game takes to run for a full game from your home connection?

 

[Stuxnet]

Wow... had a HELLUVA time finding matches that weren't jacked by the unlimited ammo glitch. This needs fixed ASAP; it's spreading like a virus.

I agree with Jules on the knifing; it's borked. It's not as overpowered as the 1887's, but it's certainly putting up a fight for the #1 BS award. At least the kiddies sprinting around the maps with Marathon+Lightweight+Commando seem to have realized how fucking fast that gets boring and have moved on, but it still really sucks to get energy sworded from a guy 15 feet away who you've already pumped two shots into.

 

[mugs]

by relying on consumer grade connections and not datacenters for the hosting it is their fault for introducing latency in the game because that is how they made it.

it is a large cost savings to iw not to have to keep up dedicated game servers and now paying customers are having to deal w/ it, so iw can just make more $$$

i can understand p2p connections for certain types of games, but not fps where 10-20ms can easily mean the difference between winning and losing, multiply this by many times in a game and the gaming begins to suffer greatly.

again, anybody know how much bandwidth the game takes to run for a full game from your home connection?

It's not as if this is different from most other Xbox 360 games. It works fine, and I haven't found it to be a problem in Modern Warfare 2. I occasionally experience some lag, but that's really not avoidable even with dedicated servers.

I don't know the answer to your bandwidth question. I could play a game through my Tomato router, but that would require effort on my part. Frankly, I think you're a whiner and it's not worth the effort to answer your question.

 

[bob4432]

It's not as if this is different from most other Xbox 360 games. It works fine, and I haven't found it to be a problem in Modern Warfare 2. I occasionally experience some lag, but that's really not avoidable even with dedicated servers.

I don't know the answer to your bandwidth question. I could play a game through my Tomato router, but that would require effort on my part. Frankly, I think you're a whiner and it's not worth the effort to answer your question.

a whole lot of effort....looking at the past 24hr of bandwidth, but don't waste your time, i found the answer - if you are selected as the host for a 32 player game, you are looking at at least 300MB/hour.

as far as w/ dedicated servers, you should be able to see your ping to them and pick accordingly.....

 

[mugs]

a whole lot of effort....looking at the past 24hr of bandwidth, but don't waste your time, i found the answer - if you are selected as the host for a 32 player game, you are looking at at least 300MB/hour.

as far as w/ dedicated servers, you should be able to see your ping to them and pick accordingly.....

I use my tomato router as a second wireless access point. My 360 doesn't normally go through it. I'd have to go all the way down to the basement and get a 50 ft Ethernet cable to connect my 360 to that router.

 

[bob4432]

I use my tomato router as a second wireless access point. My 360 doesn't normally go through it. I'd have to go all the way down to the basement and get a 50 ft Ethernet cable to connect my 360 to that router.

wasn't aware of that, figured it was your main router, so i apologize for my dickish attitude

 

[Kabob]

So while he's shooting missles down on the AC130, can he tell he's dead? The game allows him to keep playing the killstreak then when it's over, he's dead?

Yeah, he can tell he's dead (the little message on the bottom left of the screen still says who killed who). I had an AC-130 this morning and saw the message pop up saying someone killed me. That's ok, I got about 8 or 9 with that one thing. I think I'm getting a little better with the AC-130, I still don't think it's as good as Chopper Gunner though. Only 5 more AC-130's and I'll have my cool blingy emblem.

I like the game a lot but the knifing is just ruining the game for me. I don't understand how i can get knifed when the person isn't even looking at me or i get knifed when the dude isn't even near me. Gonna probably get rid of the game soon.

The knifing in the game is goofy. It's not just Commando (which, granted, is the worst part by far). On a game at Sub Base there was a guy camping the stairs to the glass room. I ran up and while just about touching him I knifed him...and it didn't register me as hitting him. He then turned around and knifed me. There's no possible way I could have missed the guy, he was stationary facing the other way...

Really guys, it's not necessary to assume someone sucks at the game just because they're complaining about something... that seems to be the standard response here. Remember, there's always someone who is better than you.

So true, I do pretty well and then I'll play against a guy or group of guys who slaughter me.

 

[Stuxnet]

So true, I do pretty well and then I'll play against a guy or group of guys who slaughter me.

Sorry about that

 

[Kabob]

 

[AstroManLuca]

Well I'm officially taking a break until they fix the custom lobby/unlimited ammo glitching. It's completely ruined the game for me. I played a few rounds of COD4 last night and did pretty well (even called in a chopper once, which helped my team come from behind to win it). Tried out the "bitch" class: AK-47 + grenade launcher, G36C + grenade launcher, Overkill, Martyrdom, Stun.

Also I'm doing much worse with the RPD in COD4 than I have been doing in MW2, even though some people here talked about how much better the RPD was in the first game. I'm not seeing it. It seems to have a lot more recoil (then again, most guns have more recoil in COD4). And maybe everyone's running Juggernaut, but it doesn't seem to do as much damage either.

 

[smackababy]

The recoil is COD4 was realistic. In MW2, it isn't. The RPD has none... The funny thing is, the RPD is based off the AK-47, and that has crazy recoil.

I only ran into a few games glitching last night. Like my first 5 were all infinite ammo, but after that I had smooth sailing. My two friends and I teamed up with 3 other guys we met and dominated some demolition. We had a few tough matches, but overall won almost all our games. Having 5 people on your team you can count on not having down syndrome is amazing.

 

[Kabob]

Try playing Mercenary Team Deathmatch, I've yet to run into the infinite ammo glitch.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Played a bunch of TDM last night, didn't see the infinite ammo glitch once, haven't seen it at all as of yet.

 

[basslover1]

Well I'm officially taking a break until they fix the custom lobby/unlimited ammo glitching. It's completely ruined the game for me. I played a few rounds of COD4 last night and did pretty well (even called in a chopper once, which helped my team come from behind to win it). Tried out the "bitch" class: AK-47 + grenade launcher, G36C + grenade launcher, Overkill, Martyrdom, Stun.

Also I'm doing much worse with the RPD in COD4 than I have been doing in MW2, even though some people here talked about how much better the RPD was in the first game. I'm not seeing it. It seems to have a lot more recoil (then again, most guns have more recoil in COD4). And maybe everyone's running Juggernaut, but it doesn't seem to do as much damage either.

the LMGs in MW2 aren't realistic when it comes to firing with it.

No way in hell, in real life, you'd be able to stand on your feet with an M240 and accurately paint a target.

I know in BF2 if you aren't laying prone using any LMG, you'll spray bullets everywhere except what you're aiming at.

 

[AstroManLuca]

the LMGs in MW2 aren't realistic when it comes to firing with it.

No way in hell, in real life, you'd be able to stand on your feet with an M240 and accurately paint a target.

I know in BF2 if you aren't laying prone using any LMG, you'll spray bullets everywhere except what you're aiming at.

I never said a word about realism. There are a million other unrealistic things about the game, such as the ability to hide in a corner for five seconds in order to heal, or the ability to whip out a combat knife and lethally stab someone in under a second when you're already carrying shotguns in both hands (not to mention the ability to fire two shotguns one-handed at the same time without falling over). I'm just saying that the RPD is better in MW2 than it was in COD4, which goes against what people seemed to be saying earlier in this thread.

 

[GrantMeThePower]

I'm pretty sure that Commando is also used for the riot shields. I got killed by one from like 10 feet away and it was completely wtf.

It seems like there is a whole class of player that simply tries to find the loopholes in the game.

 

[Kabob]

I never said a word about realism. There are a million other unrealistic things about the game, such as the ability to hide in a corner for five seconds in order to heal, or the ability to whip out a combat knife and lethally stab someone in under a second when you're already carrying shotguns in both hands (not to mention the ability to fire two shotguns one-handed at the same time without falling over). I'm just saying that the RPD is better in MW2 than it was in COD4, which goes against what people seemed to be saying earlier in this thread.

I'll be "one of those guys" and say I totally disagree, the RPD in CoD 4 is an absolute beast IF you know how to use it. You've got to move at a crawl and work on choke points but it's an absolute monster. I can't use it nearly as effectively in MW2.

I'm pretty sure that Commando is also used for the riot shields. I got killed by one from like 10 feet away and it was completely wtf.

It seems like there is a whole class of player that simply tries to find the loopholes in the game.

Yup, Commando works with shields (any melee).

 

[BW86]

No way in hell, in real life, you'd be able to stand on your feet with an M240 and accurately paint a target.

tell that to this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4nfZu8VqgQ

 

[Stuxnet]

It seems like there is a whole class of player that simply tries to find the loopholes in the game.

I think a better label would be "whole class of player that will do whatever it takes to win."

On paper, it sounds reasonable and beyond reproach. Hell, it sounds like the most rational behavior, right?

But in the context of the actual game, it blows. But let's be honest: it boils down to "they don't play the game the way I want them to." It's difficult to blame them, though; I blame the devs for allowing their game to be played to such great success with knives, dual shotties, and the like.

Silly us for expecting this to be a game about guns. Instead, it's a game where 50% of the players pick a spot and sit there for 10 minutes and pick off any poor bastard to wonders by, or worse, run around with their heads cut off whilst stabbing people from 10 yards out.

The game is entertaining, but it's fucked in a number of ways, and it sure as hell isn't on par with COD4.

 

[YoungGun21]

tell that to this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4nfZu8VqgQ

That is awesome!

 

[Dangerer]

i just picked up this game PC 2 nights ago. I just hit 28 using m4a1 with silencer and holographic. I can't really use any other gun as good as I can the m4. So glad they're fixing akimbo 1887s. 2 nights in and that gun is a nightmare to deal with.

Was knifing this bad in MW1? I've been browsing this thread and others and hear about people talking about running around knifing people. I thought it took skill until I played the game myself. jesus knifing is easier than shooting a gun.. virtually nothing like the counter-strike series where knifing took serious skill.

 

[Kev]

Definitely not on par with 4. Honestly now that i think about it, the only thing this game has over COD4 is lack of grenade spam and better killstreaks. I'm thinking about dusting off the old disc

 

[GrantMeThePower]

I think a better label would be "whole class of player that will do whatever it takes to win."

On paper, it sounds reasonable and beyond reproach. Hell, it sounds like the most rational behavior, right?

But in the context of the actual game, it blows. But let's be honest: it boils down to "they don't play the game the way I want them to." It's difficult to blame them, though; I blame the devs for allowing their game to be played to such great success with knives, dual shotties, and the like.

Silly us for expecting this to be a game about guns. Instead, it's a game where 50% of the players pick a spot and sit there for 10 minutes and pick off any poor bastard to wonders by, or worse, run around with their heads cut off whilst stabbing people from 10 yards out.

I completely agree with what you've written here.

I suppose on a competition level, doing what it takes to win, within the limits of stated rules (i.e. not exploiting a glitch) is what you should do.

But on a "fun" level, playing the game takes away a lot of fun because to level the playing field everyone has to play like that and it takes something that could be tactical and suspenseful into a bore fest at best and a frustrating waste of time more often.

While campers are annoying, they don't bother me nearly as much as the people running around with dual shotties with lightweight and marathon and commando.

To keep so many different weapons and styles "balanced" the developers made it unbalanced. For instance, the "knifers" can rest assured that if you have an assault rifle and they run quickly right at you and get close enough (which isn't that close) to commando knife you, it doesn't matter if you get a few shots in becasue it doesn't kill them. A larger penalty, say, the immediate halt of "running" or inability to draw a knife or change weapons, might help.

Any dual shotgun is insane. I picked up an akimbo 1887 off a dead guy just to see what it was like. I felt dirty using it. I killed a guy on quarry from a distance, hiding behind a block, with a two finger trigger pull as he was shooting at me. I saw why so many people did it. It doesn't make it right though.

 

[Kabob]

i just picked up this game PC 2 nights ago. I just hit 28 using m4a1 with silencer and holographic. I can't really use any other gun as good as I can the m4. So glad they're fixing akimbo 1887s. 2 nights in and that gun is a nightmare to deal with.

Was knifing this bad in MW1? I've been browsing this thread and others and hear about people talking about running around knifing people. I thought it took skill until I played the game myself. jesus knifing is easier than shooting a gun.. virtually nothing like the counter-strike series where knifing took serious skill.

The knifing issues come from one of the perks, Commando, which is supposed to...ahem..."increase your melee distance." Now, reading that I'd think it'd maybe double it or something, but it literally quadrouples your melee distance so you teleport and knife like you've got a Halo energy sword. There's a ton of complaints about it but I don't think IW is planning on "fixing it." Their solution was to slow down Lightweight (which most people have no issues with) and the problem still persists.

 

[PimpJuice]

The game is not perfect, but you'd think its horrible from reading this thread.

I really think some of you guys just like to complain. Complain about campers, complain about knifers, etc...

I'm not the greatest player and even I have no problems killing campers or knifers. Sure its annoying, but then again they never do that well anyway and usually lose the game by not playing as a team.

To each their own, nobody is stopping you from going back to COD4 if thats what you enjoy.