Official Modern Warfare 2 thread

[stag3]

so i started using the aug last night, it's pretty deadly with the grip.
the clip is weird since its 42 bullets?

im using sleight of hand pro, stopping power pro, and steady aim.

i'vs unlocked everything so far but FMJ and EXTRA MAGS

 

[SR1729]

Half of my classes carry a silencer, the others do not. It really just depends on what mood I'm in and how I feel like playing the game. I don't think one is better than the other as long as you understand (and I mean REALLY understand) how you need to adjust.

A silencer is going to reduce your mid-range effectiveness quite a bit, since you'll be dishing out far less damage than an unsilenced opponent.

At short range and long range, the silencer is much less a hindrance and much more a benefit. At short range, more of your shots are going to land and you might even be close enough to not suffer the damage penalty. At long range everyone is dishing out minimum damage anyway, so the silencer doesn't hurt. On many guns, a silencer reduces recoil, making a long range engagement even more desirable.

Without a silencer, I think you can be even more deadly as long as you're prepared to think fast on your feet. Knowing the enemy knows where you are can play right into your hands with baiting tactics. Most of my best games happened when I ran without a silencer and baited the enemy with random shots in the air. Last night for example I went 26-1 and 25-2 with an unsilenced TAR. Honestly that's not even possible for me with a silenced weapon. Why? Because I can't find enough enemies in a match to inflict that many kills. For me to score that high, I need them finding me, too.

It's a high risk/high reward choice. There are still some maps where I won't even consider running without a silencer. Estate is at the top of that list. There's just too little cover for me to be any more exposed than I already am. But maps like Favela are awesome without a silencer. There are so many buildings and so many levels to those buildings that showing up on enemy radar isn't really that much of a disadvantage. It's so common to find yourself surprised by the enemy that I'm much more interested in killing as efficiently as possible. Even if I show up on enemy radar, they still really can't pinpoint my exact location, and that plays right into my strategy on that map.

 

[GCS]

So I was playing some this w/e and got in a game where the map came up as RUST.

I had never seen this one before but it was very cool. It's small map (near as I can tell) which makes the action fast and furious. Pretty much the whole map is CQB to me.

I believe this was supposed to mimic and old oil pumping station in the desert or something.

For anyone who hasn't seen it http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/new-surprize-attack-mw2-video


The game started and both teams were firing on each other immediately. I ran out of the start point and within 2 seconds had 4 guys turning the corner towards me and the fight was on. On respawns you had about 1 second from showing up to either move or open fire on someone or you were dead. Just an intense battle that did not last long.

This map has only come up once but I would love to see it again.


Weapon wise I think I am kinda stuck on the M4 with an ACOG site. I got the ACOG over the w/e and I am much better with it then without it. I was running a silenced M4 before that and I was better with the silencer than without it as well. Still running SOH Pro, Stopping Power Pro, and Steady Aim Pro and reached level 20 last night. I still get my arse handed to me pretty regulary (like 9 out of 10 times) but I have some wonderful moments of excellence frequently now which is nice to see.

 

[BoberFett]

I played Rust for the first time last night also. It came up in the Team DM Express rotation.

 

[SR1729]

Just realized my W/L ratio is 0.83. What a joke. I can't tell you how many times I've been tossed onto the losing side of a match with < 500 points to go. I also quit matches when I have 3 bars or less or if I don't like the map (this really only applies to Wasteland and Rust).

It would be nice if you had a "grace period" in which you can quit matches without being penalized. Whether you're tossed into a match or you start it from the beginning, you should be allowed to quit without penalty so long as you have 0 kills and 0 deaths. On the flip side, you should only be awarded a W if you have made some sort of net contribution (again, at least 1 kill or 1 death).

But it's stupid that I'm penalized when I'm thrown onto the losing side of a 7400-2600 match and have 2 bars to my ping.

 

[Kev]

W/L is the most worthless stat there is. I think out of my 30 friends on my list with MW2, maybe 4 of them have a W/L greater than 1.0

 

[dougp]

Just realized my W/L ratio is 0.83. What a joke. I can't tell you how many times I've been tossed onto the losing side of a match with < 500 points to go. I also quit matches when I have 3 bars or less or if I don't like the map (this really only applies to Wasteland and Rust).

It would be nice if you had a "grace period" in which you can quit matches without being penalized. Whether you're tossed into a match or you start it from the beginning, you should be allowed to quit without penalty so long as you have 0 kills and 0 deaths. On the flip side, you should only be awarded a W if you have made some sort of net contribution (again, at least 1 kill or 1 death).

But it's stupid that I'm penalized when I'm thrown onto the losing side of a 7400-2600 match and have 2 bars to my ping.

Oh, I agree - I can one up you, my ratio is .43 in W/L because I:

1) Quit if I get thrown into a game that will be over soon and my team is losing.
2) Quit if I get thrown into a game against an entire clan (Only happens on certain game types)
3) Quit if my connection is bad
4) Quit if I have to join a friends request.

 

[YoungGun21]

W/L is the most worthless stat there is. I think out of my 30 friends on my list with MW2, maybe 4 of them have a W/L greater than 1.0

My W/L is over 1.

I think it is more important that K/D ratio honestly. If I go 5-12 but my team wins, I'm ok with it. If I go the same and my team loses, I'm pissed.

 

[Kev]

My W/L is over 1.

I think it is more important that K/D ratio honestly. If I go 5-12 but my team wins, I'm ok with it. If I go the same and my team loses, I'm pissed.

Why, because the random group of people, working as individuals, that you were thrown in with did better than the random group of people, working as individuals, that you were playing against?

I think the best player on my list has only a .80 W/L

 

[chorb]

Why, because the random group of people, working as individuals, that you were thrown in with did better than the random group of people, working as individuals, that you were playing against?

I think the best player on my list has only a .80 W/L

I've got 9 people that I regularly play with (and know in RL) and all of our W:L ratios are over 1.0; most of us have a 20+ win streak, one of which has a 39 winstreak. So if you want to get that W:L up, play with friends only and pub stomp them fools!

 

[MR.Brightside]

I have a problem.I'm so fixed on the AR i have right now,whenever i try another gun i never get half as many kills.My setup is:
M4A1-ACOG
Scavenger Pro
Cold Blooded
Ninja Pro

Any suggestions?

 

[dougp]

I have a problem.I'm so fixed on the AR i have right now,whenever i try another gun i never get half as many kills.My setup is:
M4A1-ACOG
Scavenger Pro
Cold Blooded
Ninja Pro

Any suggestions?

Yes, just keep playing with another weapon until you get good. There's no trick to automatically being accustomed to another weapon unless you've been playing with it for some time.

 

[chorb]

I have a problem.I'm so fixed on the AR i have right now,whenever i try another gun i never get half as many kills.My setup is:
M4A1-ACOG
Scavenger Pro
Cold Blooded
Ninja Pro

Any suggestions?

welcome to the forum.

whats your play style? run and gun at close range? camp and shoot from afar?

I would only use cold blooded on the wide open maps like Wasteland, Underpass, Afgahn, and possibly Derailed. The rest of the time I would use stopping power.

 

[NoSoup4You]

I find the M4 pretty good with Cold Blooded, so long as I have a SPAS or AA-12 for clearing buildings/CQB.

The shotties, by the way, are my fav alternate weapon when running Hardline, Lightweight or Cold Blooded. Stopping Power just isn't needed for them at all.

But of course the Stinger is the funnest alt weapon when running Cold Blooded. Ending a Chopper Gunner before the guy has even reached the battle zone is a thrill that never gets old.

 

[Kev]

I've got 9 people that I regularly play with (and know in RL) and all of our W:L ratios are over 1.0; most of us have a 20+ win streak, one of which has a 39 winstreak. So if you want to get that W:L up, play with friends only and pub stomp them fools!

Ha. The problem is, my group of friends that I run with sucks horribly, so I can't really do that. I did get a 25 win streak once when we matched against a worse team who decided to stick around for an asswhooping game after game.

 

[Kabob]

I had a 2.0 win ratio a while ago, it's fallen a good bit though to like 1.5. It's so much harder to have a good win ratio simply because kill streak you're in charge of, win ratio your entire team is in charge of.

I do have a bunch of friends who play together almost exclusively and I want to say they've got a 2.5 or so ratio for wins.

 

[SR1729]

I really like the idea of tracking W/L ratio. It's like tracking points (not goals) for hockey players (+1 if you're on the ice when your team scores a goal and -1 if you're on the ice when a goal is scored against your team).

Tracked properly, I think it can be an excellent indicator of your contribution to your team. Even in TDM where the focus is on kills, I think a reliable W/L stat can be as telling as a K/D stat.

Unfortunately I don't think this game depicts a reliable W/L at all. I suppose the good news is that it will never be artificially high. If someone has a 1.5 W/L ratio, then they certain earned it and in fact their true W/L is actually a little higher. The bad news is that most people's W/L will be artificially low due to quitting matches with bad pings or being thrown into games about to end. Depending on how stubborn you are when it comes to joining "good" games (and I am one of those people and it looks like Kev is too), your W/L can get slaughtered.

My W/L is only 0.83, but I'm a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield if I do say so myself I'm typically one of the top 2 in both kills and K/D ratio, and I definitely win more than I lose. Perhaps I'm not very modest about it all, but my point is that my W/L doesn't even remotely tell the story. Being a stats junkie that bothers me.

So like I said, I think they should only award a W or a L if you made an actual (negative or positive) contribution to your team. At the very least, you should be permitted to quit a match without penalty if you exit within 15 seconds or so.

 

[BW86]

W/L is a joke - I've joined too many games where I get to play for a minute before my team loses.

 

[stag3]

same, also i team up with friends, we join and they all get kicked and it puts ME into a game, but leaves my friends out. so i have to wait until map loads, then exit and take the loss. i have 3x as many losses compared to wins because of that as i almost never play w/o my friends

 

[gorcorps]

I really like the idea of tracking W/L ratio. It's like tracking points (not goals) for hockey players (+1 if you're on the ice when your team scores a goal and -1 if you're on the ice when a goal is scored against your team).

Tracked properly, I think it can be an excellent indicator of your contribution to your team. Even in TDM where the focus is on kills, I think a reliable W/L stat can be as telling as a K/D stat.

Unfortunately I don't think this game depicts a reliable W/L at all. I suppose the good news is that it will never be artificially high. If someone has a 1.5 W/L ratio, then they certain earned it and in fact their true W/L is actually a little higher. The bad news is that most people's W/L will be artificially low due to quitting matches with bad pings or being thrown into games about to end. Depending on how stubborn you are when it comes to joining "good" games (and I am one of those people and it looks like Kev is too), your W/L can get slaughtered.

My W/L is only 0.83, but I'm a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield if I do say so myself I'm typically one of the top 2 in both kills and K/D ratio, and I definitely win more than I lose. Perhaps I'm not very modest about it all, but my point is that my W/L doesn't even remotely tell the story. Being a stats junkie that bothers me.

So like I said, I think they should only award a W or a L if you made an actual (negative or positive) contribution to your team. At the very least, you should be permitted to quit a match without penalty if you exit within 15 seconds or so.

Are we sure that if you join a game JUST ending it still counts? I only ask because there's a accolade called 'participant' or something where you go a match with 0 kills and deaths, and I should have that if the match counted as I ended w/ 0-0. I have yet to 'earn' that one though even though I should if those matches do indeed count.

 

[SR1729]

Are we sure that if you join a game JUST ending it still counts?

I definitely cannot say for sure. I'll keep an eye out though.

 

[BW86]

I only ask because there's a accolade called 'participant' or something where you go a match with 0 kills and deaths, and I should have that if the match counted as I ended w/ 0-0. I have yet to 'earn' that one though even though I should if those matches do indeed count.

Participant is earned when u get 0 kills and at least 1 death

 

[GrantMeThePower]

I'm at the SHOT SHOW in las Vegas this week. I should have an opportunity to handle each of the weapons (launchers aside of course) from the game. Should be fun while I'm away from the game for a week. Hahaha. I might snap some pics of them too. For sure the ACR as it's my fave.

 

[BW86]

I'm at the SHOT SHOW in las Vegas this week. I should have an opportunity to handle each of the weapons (launchers aside of course) from the game. Should be fun while I'm away from the game for a week. Hahaha. I might snap some pics of them too. For sure the ACR as it's my fave.

awesome :sneaky:

 

[Kabob]

I'm at the SHOT SHOW in las Vegas this week. I should have an opportunity to handle each of the weapons (launchers aside of course) from the game. Should be fun while I'm away from the game for a week. Hahaha. I might snap some pics of them too. For sure the ACR as it's my fave.

ACR = $2600...massive fail.