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PimpJuice

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Feb 14, 2005
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what are you guys using your prestige tokens on? I just prestiged last night and unlocked:

Stinger
ACR
Dead Silence
Assassin

You can use more than one prestige token at once? That's sweet.

I wonder if I go back and prestige in MW2 if I would get a token. I never bothered to prestige in any COD except BLOPS.
 
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Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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I used 2-3 on classes, one on the mp7.

Now that I've prestiged, I'm hoping blops 2 goes back to cod points. It's really annoying to have to wait for perks and equipment.

yeah i mostly just hate how it takes so long to unlock extended mags for each gun.
 

bucwylde23

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Apr 21, 2005
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yeah i mostly just hate how it takes so long to unlock extended mags for each gun.

Same here. That's my biggest issue right now. I run extended mags on everything since I prefer iron sights. I wish I could use a prestige point on them :/
 

PimpJuice

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Feb 14, 2005
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I really enjoyed the BLOPS model for unlocking things. If I had money saved up, I could try out any new gun I could afford. I don't even bother trying to use new guns in MW3 because its a hassle having to unlock attachments, etc.. In BLOPS, I could just save up and buy everything I wanted at once.

Also, I enjoyed working for the Pro Perks. I don't like that everyone gets them unlocked after a certain level. It was cool to force people to shoot down 30 aircraft to get ghost pro.
 

Sixguns

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May 22, 2011
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I really enjoyed the BLOPS model for unlocking things. If I had money saved up, I could try out any new gun I could afford. I don't even bother trying to use new guns in MW3 because its a hassle having to unlock attachments, etc.. In BLOPS, I could just save up and buy everything I wanted at once.

Also, I enjoyed working for the Pro Perks. I don't like that everyone gets them unlocked after a certain level. It was cool to force people to shoot down 30 aircraft to get ghost pro.

I didnt mind it on some but I could never get slight of hand pro because I would play on hardcore and never really got the chance to injury reload and than kill which you had to do to get pro. Same with ninja, you had to plant a bunch of bombs and I didnt like S&D or the other bomb games so I never even tried to get pro.

I did like the fact that you could buy your attachments right away if you had the cash. I hate that claymores are unlocked at 53!
 

BD2003

Lifer
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I didnt mind it on some but I could never get slight of hand pro because I would play on hardcore and never really got the chance to injury reload and than kill which you had to do to get pro. Same with ninja, you had to plant a bunch of bombs and I didnt like S&D or the other bomb games so I never even tried to get pro.

I did like the fact that you could buy your attachments right away if you had the cash. I hate that claymores are unlocked at 53!

Yeah, I just don't like how playstyles are constricted. I have to play for many hours before I can use a viable stealth class with assassin. But I can choose any streak I want almost from the get go...it's oddly inconsistent.

Next game I really hope they rethink this prestige idea. It was probably originally conceived as something very few would do. Now they're shortening the progression just to make the prestige come sooner. I feel compelled to do it, especially since you're given bonuses.

It's a bit of a copout IMO, they should come up with a longer, more interesting progression and a better endgame instead of just starting the cycle over every 30 hours. And then each cycle is *exactly* the same, to the point where you can't even create a class at first. It's just getting silly now. They can do better.

For example: Each prestige should have a different progression to keep it interesting. In order to prestige up, you need to complete 10 challenges of some difficulty. Then you've earned the right (and some actual prestige). Each successive prestige should be more difficult and time consuming to achieve, with different requirements.
 
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dougp

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I really enjoyed the BLOPS model for unlocking things. If I had money saved up, I could try out any new gun I could afford. I don't even bother trying to use new guns in MW3 because its a hassle having to unlock attachments, etc.. In BLOPS, I could just save up and buy everything I wanted at once.

Also, I enjoyed working for the Pro Perks. I don't like that everyone gets them unlocked after a certain level. It was cool to force people to shoot down 30 aircraft to get ghost pro.

Huh? You still "work" for your pro perks, they just don't have terribly retarded requirements like planting a bomb (I don't play demo or SND without 3rd person) or capturing the flag.
 

PimpJuice

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Huh? You still "work" for your pro perks, they just don't have terribly retarded requirements like planting a bomb (I don't play demo or SND without 3rd person) or capturing the flag.

I wouldn't call it "work".....its more like "grind" for them. Some of the requirements were retarded, yes, but I guess I'm of the mindset that people should go above and beyond to earn some of the bonus abilities. I am not a fan of people being given things just because they play a lot.

I hated trying to get marathon pro (capturing flags), but once I got it it was nice to know that everyone else who has it went through the same shit or they just didn't get to use it. Also, you didn't have to wait to become a specific level to use them.

I understand it though, developers prefer this method to make everything noob-friendly which makes the most business sense. Doesn't mean I have to like it
 

dougp

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May 3, 2002
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I wouldn't call it "work".....its more like "grind" for them. Some of the requirements were retarded, yes, but I guess I'm of the mindset that people should go above and beyond to earn some of the bonus abilities. I am not a fan of people being given things just because they play a lot.

I hated trying to get marathon pro (capturing flags), but once I got it it was nice to know that everyone else who has it went through the same shit or they just didn't get to use it. Also, you didn't have to wait to become a specific level to use them.

I understand it though, developers prefer this method to make everything noob-friendly which makes the most business sense. Doesn't mean I have to like it

Call it newb friendly or whatever you want, it's called smart business. Even Blizzard has learned this by developing methods other than grinding for the rewards. I play to have fun, but it was fucking FRUSTRATING trying to find a sentry gun for ninja pro. Going through Prestige mode is what stopped me from playing BO, because I didn't have fun re-earning the pro perks.
 

PimpJuice

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Call it newb friendly or whatever you want, it's called smart business. Even Blizzard has learned this by developing methods other than grinding for the rewards. I play to have fun, but it was fucking FRUSTRATING trying to find a sentry gun for ninja pro. Going through Prestige mode is what stopped me from playing BO, because I didn't have fun re-earning the pro perks.

Agree completely, I essentially said the same thing. I undestand where you're coming from on the frustration part too. I didn't have as much trouble with any of the ones I wanted except for the marathon pro one. Different strokes for different folks

Having more players in the community is a good thing, so if it has to be this way then so be it. I can definitely live with it.
 

BD2003

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Agree completely, I essentially said the same thing. I undestand where you're coming from on the frustration part too. I didn't have as much trouble with any of the ones I wanted except for the marathon pro one. Different strokes for different folks

Having more players in the community is a good thing, so if it has to be this way then so be it. I can definitely live with it.

I'm entirely against the idea of having to unlock them in the first place. The pro version should be the default. It splits players into haves and have nots, with some players objectively more powerful than others - something the normal progression doesn't really do.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
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I'm entirely against the idea of having to unlock them in the first place. The pro version should be the default. It splits players into haves and have nots, with some players objectively more powerful than others - something the normal progression doesn't really do.

Wait what? You want everyone to just get every weapon and perk to begin with?
 

juiio

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Feb 28, 2000
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I'm entirely against the idea of having to unlock them in the first place. The pro version should be the default. It splits players into haves and have nots, with some players objectively more powerful than others - something the normal progression doesn't really do.

It may seem counter-intuitive, but having to unlock everything helps the bad players in a way, since players have to re-unlock everything after they prestige and bad players are probably less likely to prestige. The playing field is leveled a little bit until the good player re-unlocks everything.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Wait what? You want everyone to just get every weapon and perk to begin with?

No, I want the perks to be the pro version from the start.

The weapons unlocking over time is fine, higher level weapons aren't better, they're just different. Doesn't create an imbalance.

Pro perks are by definition unbalanced. Sometimes the pro aspect is more important than the stock. And you often have to do annoying things to unlock them. It's a silly mechanic in a game built on maintaining balance between high and low level players. At least they're much easier to unlock this time.
 
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foghorn67

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Jan 3, 2006
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My Elite login is asking me to go Premium. I already paid for it, punched in the code in the Xbox to redeem it. Should I worry?
 

bucwylde23

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Apr 21, 2005
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My Elite login is asking me to go Premium. I already paid for it, punched in the code in the Xbox to redeem it. Should I worry?

No, It probably just hasn't updated in their system completely yet. Took mine a long time.
 

DrunkenSano

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Star is in-game party leader I believe, but it could be the Xbox live party leader. Just a guess right now. Cuz I know GoW3 had little icons to show who are together on party chat.
 

lokiju

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So on the latest update on www.callofduty.com/elitestatus it says if you log into your elite account on the website and you have a green skull next to your profile then that means that your founder status is registered and should show up within hours.

I have the green skull but I never even have been able to get far enough to enter in my founders activation code from the card that came with my Hardened edition. So not so confident that it really is registered to my account.

Man what a cluster they've done here. So disappointing of a launch with all the issues.

Again last night it was so bad of lag that I couldn't even play the match so I dropped and it did a host migration which tells me that once again I was host of the match yet at a huge disadvantage.

I can't blame my home internet connection. I've done every kind of test against it and it's a sold connection with very low latency.

Running many speedtest and ping test from speedtest.net I get constant 10ms 30m down 3m up zero loss of packets and a A-Excellent rating every single time.

I know it's not my home connection.

In Blops it used to always seem like if you were host you had a slight advantage but in MW3 in the two times I've encountered this it's unplayable for me. I get killed then see the person. I watch the replay and they seem to be playing fine and I just look like I'm standing there not reacting.

After this happening over and over and over and destroying my KD ratio I decide it's better to just drop out of the match and try to get into one that's actual playable and that's when it kicks off a host migration for the match I'm dropping from.
 

Sixguns

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May 22, 2011
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I have the green skull but I never even have been able to get far enough to enter in my founders activation code from the card that came with my Hardened edition. So not so confident that it really is registered to my account.

I have been throught the Elite site and not found anywhere to put that code in. I also have my green skull and other items that come with founder status so not sure if I need that code for anything now.
 
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