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Bumrush99

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
With Stack back for Game 6 and with Dirk's subpar night for Game 5, I think that will energize the Mavs to a Win in Game 6 on Tuesday. Game 7 though, it's a flip of the coin. Mavs would have the momentum and home crowd, but if you learned anything from these playoffs, nothing is ever guaranteed (or guaransheed for you Piston fans).

If Wade takes over either of these games, it's over b/c then he can just dish to Shaq (best choice) or the open man. Can Dallas double Wade and Shaq at the same time? Nope. And we both know that nobody on Dallas can guard Wade or Shaq 1 on 1, aside from Daniels who Avery won't use (AGAIN) in crunch time on Wade. lol.


Err.. Daniels isn't that great defensively. Wade can pretty much abuse anybody anytime he wants.

I'll throw a scenario to you, as food for thought. What if both Wade and Dirk go off together and score in the 40's, who would win? The last time it happened with Tmac and Dirk, Dallas won.

LOL, you're comparing T-Mac/Houston to Wade/Miami.

Just shut up already.

No I was comparing 2 superstars both scoring a bunch and what is the result. With a healthy Yao and Tmac, I would take Houston over Miami anyways. It's just injuries really shunted Hosuton this season.


I wouldn't take Yao and Tmac for ONLY Wade. Sorry buddy, but WTF have they done in their careers besides whine??? Tmac reminds me of Glen Rice, great streaky shooter, great looking shot, but no vision and too much of a jump shot settler.
 

cheezy321

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Am I the only one that though last nights game was called HORRIBLY by the refs?

I just dont understand how shaq can literally manhandle people and nothing gets called.

Miami won it fair and square last night, but there were sooooo many better ways last nights game could of ended.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Am I the only one that though last nights game was called HORRIBLY by the refs?

I just dont understand how shaq can literally manhandle people and nothing gets called.

Miami won it fair and square last night, but there were sooooo many better ways last nights game could of ended.
Probably because Shaq weighs well over 300 lbs. Not many big men weigh as much. The refs have said before that Shaq is the toughest guy in the league to officiate because of his size.
 

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Originally posted by: jcuadrado
Originally posted by: torpid
Well, dirk has definitely not played great basketball, but I don't think you can blame him for last night's loss anyway. Any more than you could have blamed shaq for game 2.

you can't blame any one player for a team loss. The Mavs and Heat win as a team and lose as a team.


I was referring to earlier poster calling Yao and TMac superstars
 

Ricochet

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Originally posted by: wyvrn

I'll throw a scenario to you, as food for thought. What if both Wade and Dirk go off together and score in the 40's, who would win? The last time it happened with Tmac and Dirk, Dallas won.

You don't have to bring up Tmac. Dallas would win if both Dirk and Wade scored 40+. Just look at games 3 & 5. Wade went 40+ while Dirk had subpar games, still Heats only won by a hair margin. Sans superstars, Mavs is a better team than Heats. For the Mavs to win, either Dirk has a big game (irregardless of Wade's performance) or Wade has an off night (irregardless of Dirk's performance).
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: ricochet
You don't have to bring up Tmac. Dallas would win if both Dirk and Wade scored 40+. Just look at games 3 & 5. Wade went 40+ while Dirk had subpar games, still Heats only won by a hair margin. Sans superstars, Mavs is a better team than Heats. For the Mavs to win, either Dirk has a big game (irregardless of Wade's performance) or Wade has an off night (irregardless of Dirk's performance).

Sans superstars? Well alright. Sans super stars, the jordan-era bulls would be crap compared to most teams too.
 

Ricochet

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: ricochet
You don't have to bring up Tmac. Dallas would win if both Dirk and Wade scored 40+. Just look at games 3 & 5. Wade went 40+ while Dirk had subpar games, still Heats only won by a hair margin. Sans superstars, Mavs is a better team than Heats. For the Mavs to win, either Dirk has a big game (irregardless of Wade's performance) or Wade has an off night (irregardless of Dirk's performance).

Sans superstars? Well alright. Sans super stars, the jordan-era bulls would be crap compared to most teams too.

To clarify: I was only referring to Wade and Dirk. Of course the Heats have lots of former superstars like Shaq, Elonzo, and GP.

My point is that the Heats are much more reliant on Wade as compared to the Mavericks reliance on Dirk.



 

torpid

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Originally posted by: ricochet
To clarify: I was only referring to Wade and Dirk. Of course the Heats have lots of former superstars like Shaq, Elonzo, and GP.

My point is that the Heats are much more reliant on Wade as compared to the Mavericks reliance on Dirk.

Kind of hard to say. Without Dirk would those other guys be as open? I don't think they would.
 

OrByte

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at this rate they will be playing basketball in july

:roll:

stupid $$NBA$$
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: jagga
Lets go HEAT!!! Stop all the whining by Dallas once and for all.


It's going to be the Heats turn to whine now D wade won't be getting a foul every time he goes to the bucket, and Shaq won't be drawing 15 fouls either. Get your whinning towels ready, what goes around comes around
 

Ricochet

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Originally posted by: jagga
Lets go HEAT!!! Stop all the whining by Dallas once and for all.

Although I do agree that the officiating is slightly in Miami's favor, Dallas is really showing their poor sportsmanship with their whining.
 

Bumrush99

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: jagga
Lets go HEAT!!! Stop all the whining by Dallas once and for all.


It's going to be the Heats turn to whine now D wade won't be getting a foul every time he goes to the bucket, and Shaq won't be drawing 15 fouls either. Get your whinning towels ready, what goes around comes around


Umm have you heard of the term "Hack-a-Shaq"

I can't believe all the Dallas homers in here complaining about the foul shots, Dallas intentionally fouled Shaq even before the Heat was in the penalty to accelerate the shaq hacking.... So don't complain about it dude, the advantage Miami had in free throw shooting was a result of that strategy combined with the fact that Miami does not settle for jump shots like Dallas does
 

iamme

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tonight should be a good one.

IMO, if miami wants to win it all, they need to do it tonight. miami's got tons of momentum going into this game, but the Mavs are awfully tough at home. i predicted Heat in 6, so i've got to stick to that. however, if Dirk goes off.....
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: jagga
Lets go HEAT!!! Stop all the whining by Dallas once and for all.


It's going to be the Heats turn to whine now D wade won't be getting a foul every time he goes to the bucket, and Shaq won't be drawing 15 fouls either. Get your whinning towels ready, what goes around comes around

I, for one, won't be whining at all. Bad calls, no calls, stars getting calls, home team getting the calls... its all a part of the game and it's nothing new and every team has been both the beneficiary and the victim of such events.

Let's grow up, learn perspective and move on.


 

vi edit

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GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: ricochet
Originally posted by: jagga
Lets go HEAT!!! Stop all the whining by Dallas once and for all.

Although I do agree that the officiating is slightly in Miami's favor, Dallas is really showing their poor sportsmanship with their whining.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A...nbafinals-cubanfined&prov=ap&type=lgns

Cuban's mouth cost him another $250k.


Yeah thats $450k and three suspensions dished out to the Mavs this postseason, Cuban is such an bafoon. He can't seem to seperate his emotions from making good moves for the team, and he's hurting the team.

I agree with him that there needs to be a fundamental change in the way NBA games are called. And personally I think Stern and Jackson are worthless and need to go. But Cuban is going about it all wrong and hurting his rep and the Team He needs to get smarter about it.

 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: ricochet
Originally posted by: jagga
Lets go HEAT!!! Stop all the whining by Dallas once and for all.

Although I do agree that the officiating is slightly in Miami's favor, Dallas is really showing their poor sportsmanship with their whining.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A...nbafinals-cubanfined&prov=ap&type=lgns

Cuban's mouth cost him another $250k.


Yeah thats $450k and three suspensions dished out to the Mavs this postseason, Cuban is such an bafoon. He can't seem to seperate his emotions from making good moves for the team, and he's hurting the team.

I agree with him that there needs to be a fundamental change in the way NBA games are called. And personally I think Stern and Jackson are worthless and need to go. But Cuban is going about it all wrong and hurting his rep and the Team He needs to get smarter about it.


I wonder if you were sharing Spurs fan's anger and shock at the officiating in their series with the Mavs where Dirk seemed to live on the line and Dallas took 50 FT attempts in Game 3?

Or is the officiating only a problem for you now?
 

tfinch2

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Mark Cuban is such a retard, it's uncanny. I hope the Mavericks lose so I can hear more lame excuses and whining from him.

It's sad that this is the way he acts. He seems like such a cool guy when basketball isn't involved.
 

Bumrush99

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Jeez, my stomach is already in knots and the game has not started.. I'm hoping to be partying in South Beach tonight!!!!
 

waggy

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damnit. my satalite system died. they wont get out for a week. are there any live feeds?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: waggy
damnit. my satalite system died. they wont get out for a week. are there any live feeds?

You can read the play by play on NBA.com

doh. grr fricken dishnetwork. grr

dish died on me on saturday. they wont get anyone out to fix/replace it until friday! WTFA GAREAR
 

Bumrush99

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Originally posted by: waggy
damnit. my satalite system died. they wont get out for a week. are there any live feeds?


Run to Wal Mart and pick up an over the air antenna.
 

iamme

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conspiracy theorists say: "David Stern wants a Game 7. Release the hounds! er, refs!" :evil:
 
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