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Cuda1447

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Haha, I just watched the Weber play. That's freaking awesome! I'm not saying I condone it, but I like violence in hockey. That should fire up both sides! And Weber... damn what was he thinking? It probably looked a lot worse than it was, but damn it looked bad!

I think he will get at least a 1 game suspension, especially for that happening at the end of the game like that.
 

rcpratt

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My personal opinion, after cooling down, trying to be as unbiased as possible, is that he deserves two games. I will be mighty pissed if he gets nothing.
 

iRONic

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Ohman... such an awesome start to the best seasonal playoffs in pro sports!

-Flyers come back for the win to send an arena full of Pens fans home crying.
-The circus in Vancouver is in full diving mode for millions to see. As a bonus, those home fans go home crying too!

Kesler gets first star for his somersault and this ballerina move;



Tonight Boston will begin their quest to be the first Cup back-to-back winners in team history.

GO BRUINS!
 

TreyRandom

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My personal opinion, after cooling down, trying to be as unbiased as possible, is that he deserves two games. I will be mighty pissed if he gets nothing.

If he gets nothing, then you can blame the Wings quick exit on that (instead of anything else it could be blamed on).
 

Nemesis13

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Not to mention the haymaker Bertuzzi threw at Gaustad after the face off. Total madness was going on there at the end on both sides. Still, it has become popular in the media to focus on the Weber action so I wouldn't be shocked if he's out a game.

This...So much This. I dont agree with what Weber did, but Zetterberg embellished the hell out of that. Zetterberg took a run at Weber with a 3 seconds left might have slid the but end of the stick in or something because Weber just goes into Hulk mode. Either way Weber will sit at least one game. Hope Hal is good to go tomorrow.

Way to go Flyers that win showed alot of hart. Game was cleaner than I expected aside from Rinaldos penalty, looked like he wanted to get under the skin of the bench.

And great game Kings, Mike Richards was a man possessed last night.
 

rcpratt

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Didn't see the game, so I couldn't tell you. If it was worse than Weber's, I imagine more people would be talking about it.
 

Fingolfin269

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Didn't see the game, so I couldn't tell you. If it was worse than Weber's, I imagine more people would be talking about it.

But that's the point, Weber's wasn't even bad (in terms of actual damage). It was more fantastic than anything else. Like I said earlier, it's truly hilarious in a way which is probably why it's getting so much attention.

Let's be real here, someone grabbing another guy by the back of the head and trying to push him into the glass is going to be done with much less force than someone skating at full speed and launching into them. What Weber did just looks worse because it looks like he's turned the corner into a turnbuckle. I'll admit I laughed.
 

thegimp03

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I wouldn't be surprised to see the Kings give the Canucks a lot of problems and take it to a game 7. They're a really good team and Quick is the kind of goalie who can steal games.

Weber's actions at the end of the game were uncalled for and unsportsmanlike. It's a game, not a bar fight. He'd probably get suspended for a game if it were the regular season, but since it's the playoffs and it didn't result in injury who knows.

I was surprised the Penguins/Flyers game was so clean given their history. Maybe they know they're under the microscope of the league right now, but if this series goes 6-7 games I'd expect it to get nasty.

Looking forward to tonight's games. Hoping the Sharks can steal one in St. Louis, but I'm not feeling that optimistic.
 

KeithTalent

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Weber deserves a game, no doubt. I love that guy though.

KT
 

Fingolfin269

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Weber fined $2500.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=627504

NEW YORK -- Nashville Predators defenseman Shea Weber has been fined $2,500, the maximum allowed under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, for delivering a blow to the head of Detroit forward Henrik Zetterberg in Game 1 of the teams' Western Conference Quarterfinal series in Nashville on Wednesday, April 11, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.

The incident occurred at 20:00 of the third period. Weber was assessed a minor penalty for roughing.

"We felt this was a reckless and reactionary play on which Weber threw a glancing punch and then shoved Zetterberg's head into the glass," said NHL Senior Vice President of Player Safety and Hockey Operations Brendan Shanahan. "We reached out to Detroit following the game and were informed that Zetterberg did not suffer an apparent injury and should be in the lineup for Game 2.

"This play and the fine that addressed it will be significant factors in assessing any incidents involving Shea Weber throughout the remainder of the playoffs."

The fine money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.

Now I just hope Bertuzzi doesn't have a flashback and decide to try to break someone's neck.
 

rcpratt

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But that's the point, Weber's wasn't even bad (in terms of actual damage). It was more fantastic than anything else. Like I said earlier, it's truly hilarious in a way which is probably why it's getting so much attention.

Let's be real here, someone grabbing another guy by the back of the head and trying to push him into the glass is going to be done with much less force than someone skating at full speed and launching into them. What Weber did just looks worse because it looks like he's turned the corner into a turnbuckle. I'll admit I laughed.
I guess in general I'm not a believer in "there needs to be damage for someone to be penalized." Weber had clear intent to injure and especially since he targeted head I think it's worthy of a suspension.

If Bertuzzi did something similar, then he should be suspended too. But again, I didn't see the game and I haven't seen a replay of that.
 

Fingolfin269

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I guess in general I'm not a believer in "there needs to be damage for someone to be penalized." Weber had clear intent to injure and especially since he targeted head I think it's worthy of a suspension.

If Bertuzzi did something similar, then he should be suspended too. But again, I didn't see the game and I haven't seen a replay of that.

Have you seen Weber? If he had intent to injure then Zetterberg would be out for the rest of the playoffs.
 

silverpig

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Have you seen Weber? If he had intent to injure then Zetterberg would be out for the rest of the playoffs.

Yeah to me it looked like Weber was pissed and thought about doing something more dangerous than he did, but stopped himself and it ended up being pretty tame. In terms of damage done, Zetterberg's hit on Weber just prior probably caused more damage to Zetterberg than Weber's head smash.

I'm okay with it being a fine and no suspension.
 

mugs

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I guess in general I'm not a believer in "there needs to be damage for someone to be penalized." Weber had clear intent to injure and especially since he targeted head I think it's worthy of a suspension.

If Bertuzzi did something similar, then he should be suspended too. But again, I didn't see the game and I haven't seen a replay of that.

I don't see any intent to injure, I see intent to inflict pain. Shoving his head like that is not likely to cause an injury.
 

Train

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Have you seen Weber? If he had intent to injure then Zetterberg would be out for the rest of the playoffs.

You've really spun this incident.

It was full go, watch the video. And Zetterburg barely touched him, he essentially bumped him with his ass. Last time I checked, what Zetterburg did was legal, what Weber did was not.

It's a disgrace to the C he wears if you ask me. Emotional mistakes are for hot headed rookies, not captains. The $2500 is a joke, regular season he would have sat a game no doubt. If you want to fight someone, start a fight, you dont slam their head into the glass from behind. Total douchery.
 

rcpratt

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I don't see any intent to injure, I see intent to inflict pain. Shoving his head like that is not likely to cause an injury.
Yes, slamming a head against a relatively hard object has absolutely no chance to cause any injury.

I don't think it was likely to cause an injury, but I'm not sure what else Weber would be trying to do there.
 

Dominato3r

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Trying to get the mentality that you can do these type of things out of the game, is pretty important. Players now know that these type of antics have no suspensions/significant repercussions and will end up doing things that will actually hurt people.
 

mugs

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Yes, slamming a head against a relatively hard object has absolutely no chance to cause any injury.

A head with a helmet + visor on pushed into a flexible surface about a foot away (very little room to accelerate the head). Little chance of injury.

I don't think it was likely to cause an injury, but I'm not sure what else Weber would be trying to do there.

Inflict pain. Still worth a game IMO, but nothing more and I can live with a fine (a meaningless amount of money, but it'll be a factor if he gets in trouble again).

Fans everywhere are going emo because they think the NHL is saying they're not going to protect their star players. This was never about protecting players, because it's not something that would have caused an injury.
 

silverpig

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Yes, slamming a head against a relatively hard object has absolutely no chance to cause any injury.

I don't think it was likely to cause an injury, but I'm not sure what else Weber would be trying to do there.

Have you ever been so mad at something you picked up an object with the intent to throw it through the nearest window, cocked your arm back, made the motion, then realized it was a bad idea and didn't really go through with it?

That's what I think Weber did. He had a bit of follow through, but if he really wanted to mess up Zetterberg's face, he could have done much worse. He let up when he realized it was a dumb idea.


<-- has no stake in either player or team
 

Jeffg010

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He should have gotten a game out and with concussions being a big deal. His intention was to hurt the guy. You can't have guys grabbing the other guys and smashing them off the glass. That fine was light so some other dude might try the same thing thinking all he would get is fined.

If you want to get back at the guy then drop the gloves or return a hard hit.
 
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