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Dominato3r

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I really like Raymond too. Early in the Season I predicted he would get a Hat Trick this Season, month or 2 later he made me look like a genius!

I'm beginning to wonder if Mitchell will ever play again. This has been a very long recovery.

He'll be back, he's a fighter, and the guys got hockey sense when playing.

On another note, Don Cherry said it best. Giving Luongo the captaincy is probably one of the worst things the Canucks could've done. The guy's considered a nutcase but he's right. A goalie can't critique his players when he can't see the play occurring, and if a goalie has a bad night, what can he say to boost the morale?

The whole management of the team needs to be revaluated. I like the coach though, he should stay. Should probably invest in a better PK/special teams coach though.
 

Dominato3r

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Watching the post game. Luongo isn't tearing up, but he's choked. He's right, his team isnt playing good hockey, and doing what they need to do. Turnovers cost them.

If there was one good player this game, it was Luongo.
 

SP33Demon

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Maybe next year Canucks when they shore up the defense.

And the series finale for Pens/Habs tonight. Can Philly force a game 7? Unfortunately I'll be stuck at the O's game so won't be able to watch. Oh well.
 

SP33Demon

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uhh since rookie season? Pretty much every series I see him whine and dive and act like a little biotch.

What was it game 3 or 4 of the current series, he goes for the puck behind opposing net, loses it to the other team, get pissed, smacks his stick against the goal post, breaks it, the lower end of it flew into Halek. Then he throws the rest of his stick onto the ice and pouts his way back to the bench. He basically had a 3 year old's temper tantrum. Absolutely disgusting for a pro athlete to act that way.

Then he gives the dirty hits, and then turns around and acts like the victim every time. At least most players in the leageu who are of the hitting type know that what goes around comes around.

edit: you can see most of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n1tdkklxw0

Exactly, someone please find a video of Ovi breaking his stick like that. Good luck because I've never seen him do that. The worst you could say about Ovi is he sometimes gets overzealous on hits but that's a lot different than throwing temper tantrums and breaking sticks in an important playoff game and possibly costing your team a stupid penalty.
 

AMDZen

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Watching the post game. Luongo isn't tearing up, but he's choked. He's right, his team isnt playing good hockey, and doing what they need to do. Turnovers cost them.

If there was one good player this game, it was Luongo.

Wow....OK. He let in some of the softest goals I've ever seen a goalie let in all postseason. The one against Dustin (not going to try and spell his last name) made it look like Lu had no idea what he was doing.
 

rh71

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uhh since rookie season? Pretty much every series I see him whine and dive and act like a little biotch.

What was it game 3 or 4 of the current series, he goes for the puck behind opposing net, loses it to the other team, get pissed, smacks his stick against the goal post, breaks it, the lower end of it flew into Halek. Then he throws the rest of his stick onto the ice and pouts his way back to the bench. He basically had a 3 year old's temper tantrum. Absolutely disgusting for a pro athlete to act that way.

Then he gives the dirty hits, and then turns around and acts like the victim every time. At least most players in the leageu who are of the hitting type know that what goes around comes around.

edit: you can see most of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n1tdkklxw0

I'm gonna use this against Crosby as most of his fans have used it on Ovi when he does something over the top...

All the unsportsmanlike displays from Crosby... it's PASSION!!!! :twisted:

On a serious note, the guy works hard - that much is obvious, but his temper... how could you do things like that when there are hundreds of thousands of people watching you? Is he still 18?
 
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meltdown75

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he wouldn't be the player he is without that competitive fire. unsportsmanlike displays? lol it's hockey, some players are chippy.
 

SP33Demon

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he wouldn't be the player he is without that competitive fire. unsportsmanlike displays? lol it's hockey, some players are chippy.

Competitive fire? All Captains have it. Like I said, there aren't many other Captains that behave like that. There's chippy and then there's stupid. Also, you're just giving the team that saw your frustration the satisfaction that they're doing a great job. Real men don't let it show, they just go out and play harder.
 

meltdown75

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Competitive fire? All Captains have it. Like I said, there aren't many other Captains that behave like that. There's chippy and then there's stupid. Also, you're just giving the team that saw your frustration the satisfaction that they're doing a great job. Real men don't let it show, they just go out and play harder.
best player in the world right now. no one compares. Captain Shmaptain, ask his teammates what they think of him. they all know he's a leader and a winner. i don't see any stupid plays, i just see an otherworldly hockey player under the microscope that people love to hate. so he crosschecked someone at the end of a game. OOOOOOOOH!!!! it's fucking hockey.
 

JD50

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best player in the world right now. no one compares. Captain Shmaptain, ask his teammates what they think of him. they all know he's a leader and a winner. i don't see any stupid plays, i just see an otherworldly hockey player under the microscope that people love to hate. so he crosschecked someone at the end of a game. OOOOOOOOH!!!! it's fucking hockey.

How can you say that no one compares? You don't think that Ovi is even close to Crosby? And please don't go pointing at team championships when comparing individual players, that's one of the dumbest things that I see people use when comparing individual players in a team sport. The only time that really works is when a player carries a team on his back, which Crosby has not done.
 

KeithTalent

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Is there still room for me on the Habs bandwagon? :hmm:

KT
 

bignateyk

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How can you say that no one compares? You don't think that Ovi is even close to Crosby? And please don't go pointing at team championships when comparing individual players, that's one of the dumbest things that I see people use when comparing individual players in a team sport. The only time that really works is when a player carries a team on his back, which Crosby has not done.

Sid has nothing left to prove. He is statistically on par with ovi, much better defensively, and has proven he's a winner. Looking at the entire picture (indivdual stats, team accomplishments, accomplishments outside of pittsburgh), there has been noone on his level for the last 5 years. Not to mention the fact that he's never been suspended, and has done nothing but good for the community.

Right now ovechkin is the dan marino or the lebron james of hockey. When he actually wins something maybe we can talk about reasons why he is better than crosby.

edit: As far as him being a captain and showing frustration? They all do it at some point. Remember when Alfredsson shot the puck at Staals head after the period ended in the playoffs 3 years ago? Yeah, crosby breaking his stick out of frustration sure is fucking terrible :sarcasm:

edit2: As far as him playing with malkin? Sid has played with sub-par wingers his whole career. He also managed to notch 102 points his rookie year on an absolutely terrible team without the help of malkin, so that argument doesn't hold much ground. Ovi has been playing with Semin and Backstrom. Not exactly terrible players there...
 
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meltdown75

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How can you say that no one compares? You don't think that Ovi is even close to Crosby? And please don't go pointing at team championships when comparing individual players, that's one of the dumbest things that I see people use when comparing individual players in a team sport. The only time that really works is when a player carries a team on his back, which Crosby has not done.
I can say it, easily, and I am saying it. I don't care much for one-way players. How did Ovy carry his team on his back? By taking shots from the outside and floating around in the neutral zone? Ok.
 

JD50

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Sid has nothing left to prove. He is statistically on par with ovi, much better defensively, and has proven he's a winner. Looking at the entire picture (indivdual stats, team accomplishments, accomplishments outside of pittsburgh), there has been noone on his level for the last 5 years. Not to mention the fact that he's never been suspended, and has done nothing but good for the community.

Right now ovechkin is the dan marino or the lebron james of hockey. When he actually wins something maybe we can talk about reasons why he is better than crosby.

As far as him being a captain and showing frustration? They all do it at some point. Remember when Alfredsson shot the puck at Staals head after the period ended in the playoffs 3 years ago? Yeah, crosby breaking his stick out of frustration sure is fucking terrible :sarcasm:

I like how you ignored all of the other posts and just responded to this one. Again, saying that Crosby is better than Ovi until Ovi wins a championship is ridiculous, especially when Crosby had ONE GOAL in that series. It's a TEAM sport, one player can't help it when his team lets him down. Marino is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game, the lack of a ring doesn't take away from that. I guess Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better quarterbacks than Dan Marino, they both have super bowl rings...
 

meltdown75

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right, it's a team sport, and he has 4 assists to go with that goal. comments?

why is everyone so focused on "OMG HE ONLY HAD ONE GOAL THIS SERIES OMG OMG".

i guess unless he puts up a goal per game, he's no good. :shrug:

he's 2nd in playoff scoring and only because Toews had a 5-pt night in game 5 of their series. in fact Toews would be my #2 pick for top player. Ovy, I don't even know where I'd rank him. I just don't like one-dimensional players - don't hate me.
 

JD50

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I can say it, easily, and I am saying it. I don't care much for one-way players. How did Ovy carry his team on his back? By taking shots from the outside and floating around in the neutral zone? Ok.

I didn't say that Ovi carried his team on his back, you're the one saying that Sid is the bestest ever because his team won a Stanley Cup. What a clutch player, one goal in the stanley cup series and one goal so far against the Habs...I'm so jealous.

I'm not saying that he won't be that great, just that some of you guys over hype Crosby. Who knows, maybe tonight he'll have a great performance and win the series for the Pens.
 

JD50

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right, it's a team sport, and he has 4 assists to go with that goal. comments?

why is everyone so focused on "OMG HE ONLY HAD ONE GOAL THIS SERIES OMG OMG".

i guess unless he puts up a goal per game, he's no good. :shrug:

he's 2nd in playoff scoring and only because Toews had a 5-pt night in game 5 of their series. in fact Toews would be my #2 pick for top player. Ovy, I don't even know where I'd rank him. I just don't like one-dimensional players - don't hate me.

Ovechkin had 5 assists to go along with those 5 goals. comments?
 

SP33Demon

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best player in the world right now. no one compares. Captain Shmaptain, ask his teammates what they think of him. they all know he's a leader and a winner. i don't see any stupid plays, i just see an otherworldly hockey player under the microscope that people love to hate. so he crosschecked someone at the end of a game. OOOOOOOOH!!!! it's fucking hockey.

Someone is clearly on his nuts and avoiding the fact that intentionally swinging your stick against a goalpost, breaking it, and then throwing the remains of said stick onto the ice is unsportsmanlike conduct. It has nothing to do with crosschecking, stop making shit up and backpedaling.

Best players in the world don't usually choke 2 years in a row, he is the exception. I hope he scores tonight because it's just downright embarrassing so far.

Worst playoff stats from superstars in 7 game playoff series:

Gretzky: 2 goals and 5 assists - 1996 Blues vs Wings - 18th season
Ovechkin: 4 goals and 5 assists - 2008 Caps vs Flyers - 3rd season/1st playoffs
Hull: 3 goals and 2 assists - 1999 Stars vs Avalanche - 12th season
Messier: 2 goals and 5 assists - 1991 Oilers vs Flames - 13th season (although his 2nd season may have been worse when he had 2g and 5 assists in 10 games: 1980-81 Oilers vs Canadiens (3) + Oilers vs Islanders (7) but can't get the box score to that Islanders series)
Yzerman: 1 goal, 5 assists - 2002 Wings vs Avalanche conf final - 19th season
Lemieux: 2 goals, 5 assists - 2001 Pens vs Sabres conf final - 13th season/last playoffs
Sakic: 2 goals, 3 assists - 1998 Avalanche vs Stars Finals - 11th season
Jagr: 2 goals, 2 assists - 1991 Pens vs Devils - 1st season/1st playoffs

Crosby:
1 goal, 2 assists - 2009 Pens vs Wings - 4th season
1 goal, 4 assists - 2010 Pens vs Montreal (so far through 6 games) - 5th season


If the superstars above had another 7 game playoff series following their worst, they performed better which means better than Crosby. Also, most of their worst seasons weren't in their prime (i.e. early or mid-late beyond in their career).

Yeah, no show is an understatement. If he does it again he'll be labeled the ARod of the NHL - will the best player show up in the playoffs or just play when he wants to? Better pray he does *something* tonight AND they win after all the cok sucking here.
 
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KeithTalent

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When is Ovechkin's next game? Oh right, NEXT SEASON! Penguins are still playing in no small part because of Crosby.

I can't remember: who has the cup? Who has the gold medal? :hmm:

KT
 
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