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SP33Demon

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Daily News Online Extra: For Flyers, already the greatest comeback in city's history

The Flyers have survived more elimination games in the last week (three) than the Phillies have in the last 28 seasons (two).

Just to put this into a little bit of perspective.

Whatever happens from here, this is already the greatest post-season comeback in Philadelphia sports history.

I know, I know -- if they don’t win the last one, Game 7 on Friday night in Boston, it won’t really matter. That is true enough, and it was the unanimous mantra coming out of the Flyers’ dressing room after their Game 6 victory on Wednesday night. For people who root for the Flyers, and for history, that was the evening’s best sign. (The worst sign: that the Bruins outplayed the Flyers in the second and third periods.)

One more win and the Flyers get their name inscribed, not on the Stanley Cup, but on the greatest short list in sports: teams that have come back from 0-3 to win a seven-game playoff series. We can recite them in our sleep now: 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs, 1975 New York Islanders, 2004 Boston Red Sox. If you cannot win the whole thing, this might just be the greatest playoff accomplishment that there is.

That no Philadelphia team has ever done it goes without saying. But in the history of professional sports in this town, no team has ever even come back from a 3-1 deficit in a series to win.

Eight times in the NBA, a team has come back from 3-1 -- but never the Sixers.

Twelve times in baseball, a team has come back from 3-1 -- but never the Phillies.

Twenty-two times in the NHL, a team has come back from 3-1 -- but never the Flyers.

In fact, Philadelphia has had more than its share of being on the wrong end of one of those 3-1 comebacks. The Sixers coughed it up twice, both to the Boston Celtics, in 1981 and 1968.

As for the Flyers, they also have done it twice. Everybody remembers 2000, when they blew a 3-1 lead to the New Jersey Devils amid the Eric Lindros follies. Less well-remembered was 1988, when they collapsed against the Washington Capitals in a first-round series. In that one, goaltender Ron Hextall -- the defending Conn Smythe Trophy winner as playoff MVP in 1987 -- suddenly, shockingly, couldn’t stop a beach ball after Game 4. Mike Keenan was fired right after the series ended -- for a lot more complicated reasons than a single playoff loss -- and Paul Holmgren replaced him as coach.

Twenty-two years later, Holmgren is the general manager and the Flyers are on the historical home stretch. If they don’t get there, most people will end up seeing it as nothing more than a blip, a chimera, a what-if that taunts everyone from the record books.

But if you lived it for the last week, and you are able to retain any kind of memory of the last week, and you have a sense of the history of this place, your feelings might be a little different. Because we really have never seen anything like this before.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...comeback_in_Philly_history.html#ixzz0np1hG9mH

Oh, and those who like cheerleaders:
http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/sports_photos/Eagles_Cheerleaders_Try_On_Bikinis.html
 

sandorski

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All you be tripping because Ovi and Sid found the Playoffs be cutting in to their Poon Time? They be with they bitches now foos!!!
 

Jeffg010

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Just let him live in his own ignorance, some people are just blatant homers and no amount of factual statistical evidence will help them see the light. Aside from the fact that Back to Back MVP's are one dimensional, remember? Thankfully the writers and players who vote on awards actually know something about the sport.

Let me give you some factual statistical evidence HOW MANY CUPS DOES Ovechkin HAVE OH THAT'S RIGHT NONE! HOW MANY DOES CROSBY HAVE OH YA THAT RIGHT HE GOT ONE BEING THE YOUNGEST CAPTAIN EVER! Ok I'm done.
 

JD50

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let me give you some factual statistical evidence how many cups does ovechkin have oh that's right none! How many does crosby have oh ya that right he got one being the youngest captain ever! Ok i'm done.

YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON TO MENTION THIS!!!!i!!!
 

KK

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[on PIT vs. MTL after the round 1 upset]...


Too much sh!t talking by Pens fans... now you guys can eat what you spew.


Only thing keeping montreal in it is the goaltending. Without Halak, they would have lost. First it was Halak vs. the Caps, Halak won. This last time was Halak vs. the mighty Pens, unfortunately Halak won again. He should be good, he gets enough practice blocking shots. Goodluck to them, it'll be interesting how he makes out the next round.
 

Dominato3r

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This sucks. All the parties happen elsewhere. Vancouver had those street parties with the olympics, and Montreal with this. When will the praries get some love :/
 

Michael

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Goaltending doesn't win you games. All it does is keep you from losing them.

Michael
 

Sentrosi2121

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Only thing keeping montreal in it is the goaltending. Without Halak, they would have lost. First it was Halak vs. the Caps, Halak won. This last time was Halak vs. the mighty Pens, unfortunately Halak won again. He should be good, he gets enough practice blocking shots. Goodluck to them, it'll be interesting how he makes out the next round.
Shotblocking too. You got players going down taking pucks into their bodies. This is something that Philly is doing against Boston too.
 

meltdown75

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Only thing keeping montreal in it is the goaltending. Without Halak, they would have lost. First it was Halak vs. the Caps, Halak won. This last time was Halak vs. the mighty Pens, unfortunately Halak won again. He should be good, he gets enough practice blocking shots. Goodluck to them, it'll be interesting how he makes out the next round.
Mike Cammalleri, ever heard of em? you gotta score too...
 

SP33Demon

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Let me give you some factual statistical evidence HOW MANY CUPS DOES Ovechkin HAVE OH THAT'S RIGHT NONE! HOW MANY DOES CROSBY HAVE OH YA THAT RIGHT HE GOT ONE BEING THE YOUNGEST CAPTAIN EVER! Ok I'm done.

More butt hurt Pen fans, welcome to the thread!

Why don't we discuss why Crosby deserves the Hart over Ovechkin this year? Oh wait, he choked vs the Habs with 1 goal so let's discuss if Sedin can knock off Ovi from the MVP throne. How epic would it be if Ovi won his 3rd straight, that hasn't happened since The Great One did it.
 
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SP33Demon

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Mike Cammalleri, ever heard of em? you gotta score too...

Exactly, and Gionta has 8. Five foot seven snipers that can make you pay in the blink of an eye. My buddy who lives in Montreal said there was talk about "getting bigger" next year for the Habs. He said nobody's singing that tune anymore...
 

sjwaste

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Why is there always a debate between Ovechkin and Crosby? Any GM in the league would take either guy to build around. Crosby's the better two way player, Ovechkin is the better scorer.

It's not really a debate worth having. It's usually by fans who didn't know either team existed before those guys got drafted. My main peeve with Pens and Caps fans - learn some hockey.
 

SP33Demon

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Why is there always a debate between Ovechkin and Crosby? Any GM in the league would take either guy to build around. Crosby's the better two way player, Ovechkin is the better scorer.

It's not really a debate worth having. It's usually by fans who didn't know either team existed before those guys got drafted. My main peeve with Pens and Caps fans - learn some hockey.

Exactly, Caps and Pens fans need to learn some hockey. And they need to watch more Flyers. However, I'd take Ovechkin simply because of attitude. He doesn't take stupid penalties. He is unrelentless 100% of the time, even in Game 7 of the Montreal series he never let up. It doesn't matter what the score is, you know he will give it his all without complaining. Being a leader is more than just "showing up". There are many players with incredible talent but they don't always have a great attitude where everyone would say "I'd love to have him on my team". Guys like Pujols, Jeter, Utley, Ray Lewis, Peyton Manning, and Ovechkin are the epitome of leadership and talent. Crosby is almost there but not quite on the mental level. Talent wise, sure you could build a very good team around either.

Back to the Flyers/B's, I love the ESPN article on the last game by the Boston writer who claimed that Boston outplayed Philly in the 2nd and 3rd periods? I don't know what game he was watching but the Flyers aren't giving up anything in their defensive zone. The B's will have to get some lucky bounces tonight because they simply cannot score 5v5.
 

sjwaste

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If I had my pick, I'd take Crosby. He's a far better two way forward and can actually play on the PK. I also tend to think european players have more of a tendency to be selfish with the puck, especially russian forwards. Splitting hairs, though. Both are world class talent, and neither will ever wear orange and black.

Boston definitely outplayed Philly since the last 3 mins of the first period. They carried the tempo and set up in the offensive zone quite a bit. The shot blocking kept too much trash from getting to Leighton, but he definitely took more shots than he should have. Can't play that kind of game tonight. If the entire 60 mins are in your end, you're going to get scored on eventually. Gotta look for some way to get through the forecheck.
 

Sentrosi2121

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Back to the Flyers/B's, I love the ESPN article on the last game by the Boston writer who claimed that Boston outplayed Philly in the 2nd and 3rd periods? I don't know what game he was watching but the Flyers aren't giving up anything in their defensive zone. The B's will have to get some lucky bounces tonight because they simply cannot score 5v5.

True, but the B's just can't score. Period. Keep taking shots from the point isn't going to get you many goals. Gotta get chippy. Drive it deep into the Philly zone, bang some bodies, crash the net. Pretty goals are for the regular season, not the Playoffs.

ESPN leaves a sore taste in my mouth because they pretty much only throw a 2 second chip towards Hockey. Yet they spend 6 hours on how Lebron James cuts his fingernails in a see-saw pattern to get more grip on the ball. Anyway, enough ESPN bashing. Reserve that for another topic.
 

SP33Demon

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Boston definitely outplayed Philly since the last 3 mins of the first period. They carried the tempo and set up in the offensive zone quite a bit. The shot blocking kept too much trash from getting to Leighton, but he definitely took more shots than he should have. Can't play that kind of game tonight. If the entire 60 mins are in your end, you're going to get scored on eventually. Gotta look for some way to get through the forecheck.

Just because the puck is in the Flyer's zone a little more doesn't mean Boston is outplaying them. That doesn't mean they're getting quality shots off. The Flyers had 30 blocked shots and only 4 less shots on goal, it was pretty even. While Boston had 13 more hits, they're still too slow in the neutral zone and that's giving Philly too much time to catch up (hence the 30 blocked shots). Philly only needs some timely PP's to make it happen just like the Habs are doing. Philly's defense is simply too tough for an anemic scoring team like Boston. If Leighton repeats Game 6's performance then it's over; B's have to hope the kid cracks under pressure tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nhl/news/story?id=5186467
Barry Melrose breaks it down why he's picking the underdog Flyers.
 
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