Official NHL playoffs thread.

[KeithTalent]

This loss is much easier to take than Game1. I actually feel better about the game we played and lost tonight than the game we won on Friday.

We lost the game, but I would say that we didn't actually get beat by the Avs.

Two straight games with 50+ shots. Anderson's going to eventually crack.

I've been a Sharks fan for a VERY long time, from even before I registered this name here at AT. I cannot think of another playoff game where taking a loss is anywhere as easy as taking this one is.

But damn, to lose on an own goal after peppering the other guy with 51 shots! Yikes. :\

KT

 

[gorcorps]

But damn, to lose on an own goal after peppering the other guy with 51 shots! Yikes. :\

KT

It's really the worst thing to have happen because now both teams feel like shit. Most sharks fans know they should have won, but they didn't. Most Avs fans will realize that only Anderson played worth a shit, and everything else is starting to fall apart.

 

[meltdown75]

3 more games tonight. engage giggitron.

 

[oogabooga]

I'd agree that the own goal as upsetting as it was was a giant fluke. But the loss itself for some reason isn't incredibly hard to play. As a Sharks fan I guess you have to learn to deal with loss and losing to your own team scoring on a dumb play seems like it would be harder to swallow but it hasn't been.

It probably helps that while this was bad, it puts the sharks down 2-1, and not out of the playoffs. If it was an elimination situation, that'd be so much harder to deal with.

It was a backhand that did something really weird or O'reily got a piece of it, I dunno. I've watched the replay a couple times and I still can't tell. It's even played at an extreme angle, Nabby was playing the corner post. It was bad, it might have been bad judgment to try to play it back again, but it wasn't obviously dumb.

Once upon a time, Marleau was actually a player who got better in the playoffs. He was a player who would score more and be in more scoring opportunities, etc. It's hard to remember that was the case earlier on.

Thornton is definitely playing better, but it'd be nice if you could count on him to be more agressive, perhaps even score. I know he's primarily a passer, but it's frustrating to see him choose to stick around the perimeter hoping to get a pass in vs just forcing his way in there.

So after being an offensive powerhouse and getting over 50 shots in 2 consecutive games, you think they can't get any worse at playoff hockey? 50 shots on net is ABSURD... especially twice in a row. They're just up against the best goaltender in the playoffs right now.

Last year : an offensive powerhousse who can take a lot of shots but can't score game winning goals and got knocked out of the first round.
This year : an offensive powerhouse who can take a lot of shots and score game winning goals.

I suppose you're right, we have turned it around and have gotten better, plus we're not eliminated yet.

Certainly noone has ever posted hyperbole about sports, especially their own team after a loss.

Not to take anything away from Anderson right now, he's definitely stepped up - but the Sharks offense hasn't exactly finished the few opportunities he's allowed. Going 0-6 on the power play isn't exactly inspiring either.

 

[Dominato3r]

Go Canucks!@!

 

[Cuda1447]

I freaking love hockey. Every single night I force my wife to watch 2-3 games with me. Its amazingly awesome. I'm a lucky guy my wife puts up with this. Best time of year by far. Playoff hockey > ANY sports playoffs.

 

[MotF Bane]

Holy fuck Bruins fans are LOUD.

 

[Dominato3r]

Canucks Penalty kill == Horrible. I think Kings Powerplay is 85%-90% right now.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Canucks Penalty kill == Horrible. I think Kings Powerplay is 85%-90% right now.

7 for 11 o 12 I think they said?

btw, I stand by my assertion that luongo is the most overrated player. 4 goals on 16 shots? Not in the playoffs if you want to make it past the 1st round.

 

[silverpig]

The ruling on that disallowed goal in the Kings/Canucks game was the absolute worst video call in the history of video calls. There is NO WAY that was kicked in.

 

[Dominato3r]

7 for 11 o 12 I think they said?

btw, I stand by my assertion that luongo is the most overrated player. 4 goals on 16 shots? Not in the playoffs if you want to make it past the 1st round.

All powerplay goals. He's not overrated. One goal was a bad play by the defence.



And yea that disallowed goal was BS.

 

[sandorski]

The ruling on that disallowed goal in the Kings/Canucks game was the absolute worst video call in the history of video calls. There is NO WAY that was kicked in.

Very true. Someone should be Fired for that bogus call. Their explanation doesn't even claim a Kicking Motion, but some BS about it not being a simple deflection and there was direction changing momentum and some other mental gymnastics. Precedence has already allowed such Goals in the past. :thumbsdown:

 

[Dominato3r]

Sedin was trying to stop.

If that puck was a bit higher, and on his shin, that would've been a goal. Lets face it, Bettman hates us.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Very true. Someone should be Fired for that bogus call. Their explanation doesn't even claim a Kicking Motion, but some BS about it not being a simple deflection and there was direction changing momentum and some other mental gymnastics. Precedence has already allowed such Goals in the past. :thumbsdown:

5-3 or 5-4 don't matter, it was a W either way.

 

[Dominato3r]

5-3 or 5-4 don't matter, it was a W either way.

You must not know who the comeback kings are.

Anyways, i'm off its frocking 11 here on a weekday. Come back tomorrow for more REFPUCK in the NHL.

 

[silverpig]

Very true. Someone should be Fired for that bogus call. Their explanation doesn't even claim a Kicking Motion, but some BS about it not being a simple deflection and there was direction changing momentum and some other mental gymnastics. Precedence has already allowed such Goals in the past. :thumbsdown:

(iv) Puck directed or batted into the net by a hand or foot. With the use of a foot/skate, was a distinct kicking motion evident? If so, the apparent goal must be disallowed. A DISTINCT KICKING MOTION is one which, with a pendulum motion, the player propels the puck with his skate into the net. If the Video Goal Judge determines that it was put into the net by an attacking player using a distinct kicking motion, it must be ruled NO GOAL.

Mike Murphy, the VP of hockey operations went on CBC and said "it was a kicking motion, not a distinct kicking motion, but a kicking motion..."

Capitalization in the quoted rule is theirs, not mine.

 

[sandorski]

5-3 or 5-4 don't matter, it was a W either way.

Changes the momentum of the Game. So the final outcome isn't simply 1 more goal for the Canucks.

 

[tokie]

They (the NHL) were going on about how the only way a puck could change directions was if someone kicked it. Thus, since it change direction he must have kicked it.

Do they not know what if you are standing stationary with your skate at an angle and someone shoots it on your blade, it will deflect? Basic trigonometry is lost on these people I suppose.

 

[meltdown75]

ooh. need to see this play.

 

[mugs]

Very true. Someone should be Fired for that bogus call. Their explanation doesn't even claim a Kicking Motion, but some BS about it not being a simple deflection and there was direction changing momentum and some other mental gymnastics. Precedence has already allowed such Goals in the past. :thumbsdown:

Very similar situation happened to the Devils in the regular season. Puck was deflected off a skate while the player was stopping, and they disallowed the goal. The way the rule is written, the goal should be allowed. In the "spirit of the rules" maybe it shouldn't. If the intention is to disallow goals where the puck was intentionally put in off a skate, then the "distinct kicking motion" requirement is inadequate.

ooh. need to see this play.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nhl/19230505#nhl/19230505

Skip to 6:50

 

[meltdown75]

i'll check it out later from home

my bro is a Canucks fan. i'm rooting for the Kings :awe:

 

[bignateyk]

Very similar situation happened to the Devils in the regular season. Puck was deflected off a skate while the player was stopping, and they disallowed the goal. The way the rule is written, the goal should be allowed. In the "spirit of the rules" maybe it shouldn't. If the intention is to disallow goals where the puck was intentionally put in off a skate, then the "distinct kicking motion" requirement is inadequate.



http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nhl/19230505#nhl/19230505

Skip to 6:50

Honestly, the easiest thing to do would be to just allow goals off any part of the body, no matter what kind of motion was made. If someone wants to pick up the puck and throw it at the net, why does it matter? They aren't gonna throw it faster than they could shoot it with a stick.

That would get rid of all the BS with the reviews.

I could see disallowing hand passes, but at least let the kicking motion go. Theres too much BS with the kicking rule and reviews.

 

[Blackjack200]

Honestly, the easiest thing to do would be to just allow goals off any part of the body, no matter what kind of motion was made. If someone wants to pick up the puck and throw it at the net, why does it matter? They aren't gonna throw it faster than they could shoot it with a stick.

That would get rid of all the BS with the reviews.

I could see disallowing hand passes, but at least let the kicking motion go. Theres too much BS with the kicking rule and reviews.

I agree with this. I think they should even allow players to bat the pucks into the net with their arms or hands. They can already bat them out of the zone, why not have it consistent? The only rule, IMO, should be that you can't close your hand on the puck. This prevents guys from carrying it in their hands and trying to throw it in the net.

 

[Elganja]

great game by the caps... Varly played very well in the 1st period while Montreal was attacking HARD, then in the 2nd period the caps took over

 

[AMDZen]

Holy crap. Poor Sharks fans, something like 50-17 on shots and they lose on that fluke. Wow.

KT

First Blake and then Boyle. The best players on the Avs are the Sharks defensemen.

I think its pretty clear the Sharks are cursed, the Hockey gods don't like Thornton I guess. And I can guarentee they hate Blake, Karma is a bitch Robby boy.