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Insane3D

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I'm already bumming because of how many times my B's have to play the Sabres next year...didn't they beat us like all 8 times this year?

It's so hard being a Boston fan...lol.

At least I can enjoy my season tickets to the Monarchs...often better than most B's games.
 

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"You really don't have too many southern residents putting their children on skates at 2 years old and really don't have many native southerners playing in hockey."

I wish that wasn't the case, I really do. Hockey is such a badass sport.

And Charlotte is the only place I have ever lived. Luckily though, a new center is opening up just a few miles from my house. It has two NHL size rinks.
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
:beer:

I'm already bumming because of how many times my B's have to play the Sabres next year...didn't they beat us like all 8 times this year?

It's so hard being a Boston fan...lol.

At least I can enjoy my season tickets to the Monarchs...often better than most B's games.

I think they may tinker arouundn with the schedule...... nothing confirmed but I think a lot of fans don't like the format. They may go back to the old type of schedule.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: SampSon

You really don't have too many southern residents putting their children on skates at 2 years old and really don't have many native southerners playing in hockey. Either way it doesn't matter, they took the cup!

Maybe not as many as up North, but we do have a good deal of people here that love to skate.

The mall has an ice rink in the middle of it and it's often crowded.

There's also a number of little league hockey teams in town. One is coached by the local Fox news anchor.

But hey... If it takes turning a baseball field into a hockey rink to get attendance up, so be it. Everyone should do it!

And the thing you have to remember about Florida: It's not considered the South. Seriously. Most people in Florida do not consider themselves from the South or Southerners and most people down here are transplants. For some reason, the natives don't stay here. It's weird.

I was born in NJ myself. Raised in Colorado.
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
:beer:

I'm already bumming because of how many times my B's have to play the Sabres next year...didn't they beat us like all 8 times this year?

It's so hard being a Boston fan...lol.

At least I can enjoy my season tickets to the Monarchs...often better than most B's games.
Boston was so sad this year, it was almost painful. Sabres are just going to get better, I hope the bruins do some serious off-season moves to get back in the game.

I wish that wasn't the case, I really do. Hockey is such a badass sport.

And Charlotte is the only place I have ever lived. Luckily though, a new center is opening up just a few miles from my house. It has two NHL size rinks.
Yea, it's just not as prevalent down south. It's also an incredibly expensive sport/hobby. I can be to an open ice rink within 5 minutes here. I remember growing up I was on ice skates before I was riding a bike, but that's just the way it is up here. Hockey is one of the, if not the best sport. It still has a very niche market in the US, but it's gaining popularity.

Maybe not as many as up North, but we do have a good deal of people here that love to skate.

The mall has an ice rink in the middle of it and it's often crowded.

There's also a number of little league hockey teams in town. One is coached by the local Fox news anchor.

But hey... If it takes turning a baseball field into a hockey rink to get attendance up, so be it. Everyone should do it!

And the thing you have to remember about Florida: It's not considered the South. Seriously. Most people in Florida do not consider themselves from the South or Southerners and most people down here are transplants. For some reason, the natives don't stay here. It's weird.

I was born in NJ myself. Raised in Colorado.
I used to live in Tampa in the late 80s-early 90s for a few years with the family, I remember a mall with a skating rink on the bottom level. It's not the one that is next to the Buc's stadium is it? I was young, but I remember one mall that had a rink in the middle of it. At that time nobody was using it.

You're right about florida though, it's not really the "deep south". Though much of the south is being populated by northerners, which is the main driving force behind it's newly thriving economy in many areas. That's also a good reason why hockey is becoming more popular down south as well.
I think the natives don't stay there because they are sick of all the yankees coming down and they already know the south sucks!
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: SampSon

I used to live in Tampa in the late 80s-early 90s for a few years with the family, I remember a mall with a skating rink on the bottom level. It's not the one that is next to the Buc's stadium is it? I was young, but I remember one mall that had a rink in the middle of it. At that time nobody was using it.

No. That mall was (they knocked it down a couple year ago) the Tampa Bay Center. That mall had a merry-go-round in it.

The mall with the ice rink was in Clearwater, off Tampa Rd. just past Oldsmar. I just can't remember the name of it, but it was built on a hill so one side of the mall was one story Well, it was two, but the first floor of the Sears was in a "basement" of sorts) and the other side was two.

Never saw it dead myself, but then again I've never been to that mall on a weekday.

Originally posted by: SampSon
You're right about florida though, it's not really the "deep south". Though much of the south is being populated by northerners, which is the main driving force behind it's newly thriving economy in many areas. That's also a good reason why hockey is becoming more popular down south as well.

I think the natives don't stay there because they are sick of all the yankees coming down and they already know the south sucks!

I like it myself because it never snows and you always have a beach nearby... but I'm kind of sick of the humidity and the hurricanes. Southern California is sounding good to me.. but then you have earthquakes.
 

meltdown75

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Anyone watch the NHL awards? I heard Ovy's Calder acceptance speech was good, I want to hear it

Thornton sniped the Hart, nice!!
 

Aquaman

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Luongo going to Canucks for Bertuzzi

TSN.ca Staff

6/23/2006 10:04:09 PM

The Vancouver Canucks and Florida Panthers have completed a multi-player trade involving Roberto Luongo and Todd Bertuzzi, sources have told TSN.

Netminder Luongo is part of a package that is going to Vancouver in exchange for a package that includes Bertuzzi.

Luongo is a restricted free agent, and the Panthers have been unable to work out a long-term deal. The Miami Herald reported on Tuesday that Panthers general manager Mike Keenan said that the team would explore all options when it came to Luongo.

Luongo had a 2.97 goals-against average and .914 save percentage last season. The Panthers finished 11th in the Eastern Conference and have not made the playoffs during Luongo's five seasons with the team.

"There have been lots of inquires but we haven't got to that point yet," Keenan said earlier on Friday when asked about entertaining serious offers.



"There are a lot of rumours out there certainly. And we're trying to resolve some of our player issues and we'll see what unfolds in the next little while."

Bertuzzi had 25 goals and 71 points last season, following his suspension for attacking Colorado's Steve Moore near the end of the 2004 regular season.

Berfore news of the impending deal broke, Nonis made no bones about the fact that he was shopping.

"He's in the same spot as everyone else, but the media loves to focus on one player," said Nonis of Bertuzzi. "We have a group of players that as a group underachieved which means the majority of those players are available."

Bertuzzi's best season was 2002-2003, when he scored 46 goals and 51 assists.
 

Aquaman

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It's been reported

Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen & Alex Auld

for

Luongo, defensman Lukas Krajicek & a sixth rounder

I am going to miss Auldie

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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I wonder who we are going to trade cloutier for........... regardless of his playoff stats........ he is a legit #1 goalie (had 3 consecutive 30+ win seasons.... only Brodeur has more).

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Luongo going to Canucks for Bertuzzi

TSN.ca Staff

6/23/2006 10:04:09 PM

The Vancouver Canucks and Florida Panthers have completed a multi-player trade involving Roberto Luongo and Todd Bertuzzi, sources have told TSN.

Netminder Luongo is part of a package that is going to Vancouver in exchange for a package that includes Bertuzzi.

Luongo is a restricted free agent, and the Panthers have been unable to work out a long-term deal. The Miami Herald reported on Tuesday that Panthers general manager Mike Keenan said that the team would explore all options when it came to Luongo.

Luongo had a 2.97 goals-against average and .914 save percentage last season. The Panthers finished 11th in the Eastern Conference and have not made the playoffs during Luongo's five seasons with the team.

"There have been lots of inquires but we haven't got to that point yet," Keenan said earlier on Friday when asked about entertaining serious offers.



"There are a lot of rumours out there certainly. And we're trying to resolve some of our player issues and we'll see what unfolds in the next little while."

Bertuzzi had 25 goals and 71 points last season, following his suspension for attacking Colorado's Steve Moore near the end of the 2004 regular season.

Berfore news of the impending deal broke, Nonis made no bones about the fact that he was shopping.

"He's in the same spot as everyone else, but the media loves to focus on one player," said Nonis of Bertuzzi. "We have a group of players that as a group underachieved which means the majority of those players are available."

Bertuzzi's best season was 2002-2003, when he scored 46 goals and 51 assists.

Excuse me while I change my msn nick to HOLY CHOW!!! Kudos to Nonis for pulling that off! :Q
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
I wonder who we are going to trade cloutier for........... regardless of his playoff stats........ he is a legit #1 goalie (had 3 consecutive 30+ win seasons.... only Brodeur has more).

Cheers,
Aquaman

Only to Canucks fans.
 

Aquaman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: Aquaman
I wonder who we are going to trade cloutier for........... regardless of his playoff stats........ he is a legit #1 goalie (had 3 consecutive 30+ win seasons.... only Brodeur has more).

Cheers,
Aquaman

Only to Canucks fans.

I predict he will end up in TO

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Numbers Game: Luongo-for-Bertuzzi

Scott Cullen
6/24/2006 12:23:53 AM

A blockbuster deal that had been rumoured, in part, for quite some time sent Roberto Luongo from the Florida Panthers to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for power forward Todd Bertuzzi.

The Canucks get: G Roberto Luongo, D Lukas Krajicek and a sixth-round draft pick.

Luongo, 27, was the prized goaltender on the trade market this summer because he's a restricted free agent, who will be an unrestricted free agent after next season. By making this move, the Canucks have to be prepared to sign Luongo to a long-term deal, which is likely going to be in the $7-million per season range.

For that hefty price tag, the Canucks will get a durable number one starter; Luongo has started 147 games over the past two NHL seasons, facing more shots than any other goaltender. In Vancouver, he might not need to play quite that much, if Mika Noronen is capable of handling the backup job but, more importantly, Luongo should face less shots. The end result should be an improved goals against average and more wins.

Getting Krajicek, 23, is also a solid acquisition. He didn't put up big numbers in Florida, but Krajicek was a top-four defenceman for the Panthers as a rookie, logging 18:30 of ice time per game. With that experience under his belt and an expected opportunity to play a top-four role in Vancouver next year, he might be able to put up 25 points, playing behind Mattias Ohlund and Sami Salo in Vancouver. Krajicek is a restricted free agent who earned $551,000 last year.



By dealing Bertuzzi, the Canucks also change the make-up of the team's forward lines, turning the focus to the Sedin twins, but it also opens up a spot on a scoring line, perhaps for a youngster like Ryan Kesler, who scored 30 goals in his one season in the AHL, to get a shot at a more offensive role.

The Panthers get: G Alexander Auld, LW Todd Bertuzzi and D Bryan Allen .

A fresh start could be just what Bertuzzi, 31, needs to get his game back on track. While his 71-point season wasn't terrible, that minus-17 rating he posted was abysmal. He's better than that and might be able to thrive with a little less scrutiny in South Florida. The Panthers could try and put together a power-packed line that combines Bertuzzi (6-foot-3, 245 pounds) with Olli Jokinen (6-foot-3, 205 pounds), but no matter which line Bertuzzi ends up with, he gives the Panthers another offensive threat and there were too many nights when Jokinen was the only Panther to fear. Expect Bertuzzi to at least match last year's point totals, maybe even improve on them a bit. Bertuzzi will earn $5.269-million this season and be an unrestricted free agent at season's end.

By sending Luongo out of town, the Panthers had to get a goaltender to at least try and fill the void and Auld is a pretty decent option, though his ceiling is clearly lower than Luongo's. Auld, 25, stepped up in the absence of Dan Cloutier last season and performed beyond expectations, though he was overworked without an adequate backup for much of the year. Don't be surprised if the Panthers bring in a more experienced backup to ease the load on Auld, who started 67 games for the Canucks in 2005-2006. Cutting Auld's starts down to 50-55 or so might be the best way to go. In that case, Auld would be unlikely to duplicate last year's 33 wins, but if he can continue to build on what he established last season, he could improve on his goals against average (2.94) and save percentage (.902). Auld is a restricted free agent who should get a healthy raise on the $513,000 he made last season.

Allen, 25, is developing into a solid stay-at-home blueliner and he'll provide some much-needed size to the Panthers blueline. At 6-foot-4, 220 pounds, Allen will help clear the front of the net and likely play a top-four role in Florida with Jay Bouwmeester, Mike Van Ryn and Sean Hill. Allen is also a restricted free agent, who earned $941,441 last season.
 

Aquaman

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McKenzie: Now they have to sign him

TSN.ca Staff
6/23/2006 11:58:32 PM

The Vancouver Canucks finally have a Top Five netminder, and it's a franchise player in Roberto Luongo.

But acquiring the former Florida Panther came at a significant price in Todd Bertuzzi. For whatever shortcomings he might have had, the power forward is still a prime asset in today's National Hockey League. Bryan Allen has developed into a top-four defenceman, while Alex Auld became a credible NHL netminder after the season he put in.

The key to the deal for the Vancouver Canucks is signing Luongo to a long-term contract.

If they can do it this summer, the trade is obviously well worth it. If they cannot, the Canucks gave up all those assets for Lucas Krajicek - a guy who's still trying to establish himself as a quality NHL defenceman - and a draft pick.

Now Canucks general manager Dave Nonis is confident that he can get Luongo to do what his agent Gilles Lupien would not do - sign a long-term deal before he becomes eligible to get a no-trade clause.

At the other end of the spectrum, Bertuzzi is coming off a so-called bad season where he scored 25 goals and 71 points. Panthers general manager Mike Keenan loves reclaimation projects and South Florida is a good market for Bertuzzi to adjust to.

If Bertuzzi ended up in another Canadian city, the baggage he brought with him will create an instant backlash. The same thing can happen in the U.S., as everyone will naturally remember the Steve Moore incident.

But in Sunrise, Florida, Bertuzzi is more likely to fly under the radar, concentrate on playing hockey, and resurrect his career to become the elite power forward we saw a few seasons ago.

In other news, Zdeno Chara's agent Matt Keator met with Ottawa Senators GM John Muckler on Friday, and if a deal is to be completed for him to stay in the nation's capital, it will happen sometime next week.

Meanwhile, a deal has not yet been reached between the Montreal Canadiens and soon-to-be unrestricted free agent Cristobal Huet, but the two sides are very close on what appears to be a multi-year contract. And yes, that means David Aebischer would be potentially expendable.
 

Aquaman

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Bertuzzi welcomes change of scenery

Canadian Press
6/24/2006 1:02:00 AM

VANCOUVER (CP) - Todd Bertuzzi is finally getting a change of scenery.

The big left-winger who remained a local fan favourite despite being demonized around the rest of the league after his hit-from-behind on Steve Moore was traded from the Vancouver Canucks Friday night to the Florida Panthers.

Agent Pat Morris said Bertuzzi had "extremely positive memories of his time in Vancouver" but welcomed the news.

"With the circumstances a new challenge was maybe inevitable and certainly necessary and is quite exciting," Morris said.

The Canucks also sent defenceman Bryan Allen and goaltender Alex Auld to Florida in exchange for goaltender Roberto Luongo, defenceman Lukas Krajicek and a sixth-round pick.



Bertuzzi, 31, was an enigma who became a distraction for the Canucks, who missed the playoffs this season. Big and powerful, he could be a burning force on the ice, or sometimes disappear in game like a whiff of smoke.

Expected to turn into the game's dominant power forward after a 46-goal, 97-point season in 2003-03, Bertuzzi struggled for the next two years. He was hounded by off-ice problems stemming from the Moore incident, faced constant media scrutiny and clashed with coach Marc Crawford, who was fired at the end of the season.

Like a marriage gone bad, many believed both Bertuzzi and the Canucks needed a divorce.

"I don't know how much of that was a true desire of his," said Steve Tambellini, Vancouver's vice-president and assistant general manager. "I know that Todd is a real good person, he has a great family. He's been under tremendous stress for the last season here, trying to get his professional life and his off-ice family life together.

"Sometimes a change like that in an athlete's career can accelerate the development and progress of what he had before. I know Todd is an elite talent and he's going to be a huge part of the success in Florida."

In acquiring Luongo the Canucks may finally have gained the No. 1 goaltender that has eluded them for years. He is considered one of the best goalies in the league, but has always been saddled with underacheiving teams. In six seasons with the New York Islanders and Florida, he has never played in the post-season.

"There are only so many goaltenders in the world that match Roberto Luongo's skill set," said Tambellini. "He's a special person. We had to pay a price. . .but we're excited to be able to acquire somebody of his stature."

But if Vancouver has solved one problem they created another, in what to do with Dan Cloutier. The likeable netminder has always played solid during the regular season, but struggled in the playoffs. He's never been able to live down allowing Niklas Lidstrom's's long shot in the 2002 playoffs.

Cloutier also has a history of injures. He missed most of the 2005-06 season with a knee injury.

Tambellini hinted there could be another deal involving Cloutier.

"We'll have to see what the next step is for our organization," he said. "We've acquired an established, elite goaltender. Dan had great success with our organization. We'll see how it plays out.

"I'm not sure what this translates into as far as our next roster move."

Luongo was 35-30-9 last season with a 2.97 goals-against average, a .914 save percentage and four shutouts. Luongo has played a total of 341 games, posting a record of 115-168-41, a 2.72 GAA and a save percentage of .919. He was also part of Canada's Olympic team in Turin.

The beginning of the end for Bertuzzi in Vancouver was his March 8, 2004, sucker punch on Moore, who was then playing for Colorado. Moore suffered three broken vertebrae in his neck and a concussion. He hasn't played hockey since.

Bertuzzi served an 18-month suspension from the NHL - which cost him over $500,000 US in salary - and pleaded guilty to assault causing bodily harm. He was sentenced to a year's probation and 80 hours of community service.

When he was reinstated this season teammates and coaches believed Bertuzzi would fit into the new NHL like a glove. The changes in the league's rules were expected to make the big, bruising winger almost unstoppable.

Instead, Bertuzzi handled the puck like a live grenade. He didn't drive the net and some nights showed little interest in playing defence. The penalties he took were often cheap ones.

He finished the year with 25 goals and 71 points, respectable, but not what the team expected from someone earning $5.2 million US.

Four times this year Bertuzzi went through streaks of eight games or more without a goal. His last multiple-goal game was Jan. 14, when he scored three times against the New York Islanders.

Even good things went wrong for the Sudbury, Ont., native.

He was named to Canada's Olympic hockey team only to have some critics say he shouldn't have been picked because of the Moore affair.

In the days leading up to the Games, Bertuzzi was slapped with another civil suit by Moore, claiming millions of dollars in damages. This followed a similar suit filed in Denver that a judge dismissed, saying the case had no standing in Colorado.

At the Olympics, Bertuzzi was in the penalty box when Russia scored on a power-play in the game that eliminated Canada from medal contention.



 

Aquaman

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Damn Canucks Coach Alain Vigneault fires the entire coaching staff :Q

Gonna miss Jack Mac & Mike Johnston.

I predict Johnston will be a head coach somewhere or join Crawford in LA.

Best of luck to the coaches............ you did a great job.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

jonnyGURU

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This is usually when I quit reading the NHL threads: When Aquaman turns them into Canuck threads.

But the Bertuzzi:Luongo trade is interesting. Luongo was the Panther's best asset. Not surprising because they were talking about selling off Luongo all season (couldn't have been good for his morale.)

Looks like they're going to use Auld?

Oh well... where's the "Official NHL Draft Thread: CONFIRMED"??

 

meltdown75

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Pronger has requested to be traded from Edmonton.

So much for the 5-year deal.

What a slap in the face!
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Damn Canucks Coach Alain Vigneault fires the entire coaching staff :Q

Gonna miss Jack Mac & Mike Johnston.

I predict Johnston will be a head coach somewhere or join Crawford in LA.

Best of luck to the coaches............ you did a great job.

Cheers,
Aquaman

I get this feeling we ain't seen everything yet. Starting to look like a major shift in direction for the Canucks. Wouldn't be surprised if even Naslund goes(hope not).
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
This is usually when I quit reading the NHL threads: When Aquaman turns them into Canuck threads.

But the Bertuzzi:Luongo trade is interesting. Luongo was the Panther's best asset. Not surprising because they were talking about selling off Luongo all season (couldn't have been good for his morale.)

Looks like they're going to use Auld?

Oh well... where's the "Official NHL Draft Thread: CONFIRMED"??
I would have started one but I could not access the forums until just now (since Friday).

I was actually at the draft........ I only stuck around for the first round. Pretty exciting

Cheers,
Aquaman
 
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