Official Playstation 5 thread

[blckgrffn]

Digital Foundry tested the M2 slot. The M2 drive they used works as good if not better than the internal SSD. The test also shows that the internal SSD's write speed is low. It's very much geared toward read which makes sense. Copying a game from Internal -> M2 was way faster than the other way around.

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The 12 channel drive hinted that they were spending more on the controller, making it extra wide, so that they could get a lot of read performance without the flash itself being especially fast. That's how I read it, anyway. Interesting that all those channels don't help as much with write throughput, but didn't Sony do something with their file system, like really big pages (I think that is the right term) which might lead to a lot GC having to happen in heavy write scenarios but again giving big chunks of data to be read.

I mean, given what a huge step up the write performance is over any spinning drive and how most data in a console is write once, ready many biasing all performance to read rates and latency makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[jpiniero]

Started playing Doom Eternal. I know, they put platforming in my Doom. But (perhaps unsurprisingly) it runs very well on the PS5... rock solid 60 fps with some raytracing.

 

[jpiniero]

Walmart had a large drop last night. From some of the comments I see, some won't ship until October so they must have blown their supply for the next two months.

 

[Muadib]

So gang, what are my chances of getting into the OS beta now? A buddy told me that you can add M.2 SSD drives now, but he didn’t mention that you had to be in a beta group. Of course I ordered a drive, and now it sits.

I’m not holding my breath, so I have a question. How long does it takes before a beta firmware become available to all?

 

[sze5003]

So gang, what are my chances of getting into the OS beta now? A buddy told me that you can add M.2 SSD drives now, but he didn’t mention that you had to be in a beta group. Of course I ordered a drive, and now it sits.

I’m not holding my breath, so I have a question. How long does it takes before a beta firmware become available to all?

Previously you just had to sign up to be in the beta. It only took a few days but I haven't tried since the PS4. You also need to wipe your ps5 to install the beta software.

I'll wait until it makes it to stable to buy a second M.2. Finished most of my ps5 games except demon souls so I have nothing new to play as of late.

 

[jpiniero]

So gang, what are my chances of getting into the OS beta now? A buddy told me that you can add M.2 SSD drives now, but he didn’t mention that you had to be in a beta group. Of course I ordered a drive, and now it sits.

I’m not holding my breath, so I have a question. How long does it takes before a beta firmware become available to all?

You did make sure it's Gen 4 right?

 

[Muadib]

You did make sure it's Gen 4 right?

Yes, I did.
WD SN850. WD had it on sale.

 

[Muadib]

Previously you just had to sign up to be in the beta. It only took a few days but I haven't tried since the PS4. You also need to wipe your ps5 to install the beta software.

I'll wait until it makes it to stable to buy a second M.2. Finished most of my ps5 games except demon souls so I have nothing new to play as of late.

I signed up, but haven't heard anything. I won't mind wiping my PS5. I'm not that far into Miles, and my other games are on my usb external drive. They are PS4 games.

 

[Muadib]

I dont believe the PS5 is real until I see one! (damn the chip shortage)

Chip shortage?!? Sony sold over 600,000 PS5 units in July.

 

[Commodus]

The whole world struggles with the shortage of chips. Sony could have sold many millions more if there weren't any issues.
And numbers Sony reports are units sold to the wholesale doesn't mean they actually ended up in the consumers' hands. It's just like Tesla, they have sold a record number of cars, but the consumers still have to wait until their new car arrives.

My understanding is that customers snap up virtually every PS5 Sony ships. There's considerably less of a delay between shipping and arrival, after all!

 

[Muadib]

The whole world struggles with the shortage of chips. Sony could have sold many millions more if there weren't any issues.
And numbers Sony reports are units sold to the wholesale doesn't mean they actually ended up in the consumers' hands. It's just like Tesla, they have sold a record number of cars, but the consumers still have to wait until their new car arrives.

PS5 sales have been outstanding! Sony has sold every PS5 they've made. The PS5 is on a path to be Sony's best selling console ever. Sony has already sold over 10 million PS5 units. You sound like you've actually seen PS5 in stores. Did you take pics, because I haven't, and neither has anyone else I know.

 

[jpiniero]

Best Buy has the console versions of Cyberpunk on sale for 10 bucks. So I bit, we'll see how well it really runs when I get around to playing it.

 

[Muadib]

i sound like i have seen a ps5 in stores?? read again.. why do you think I said "I don't believe the PS5 is real until I see one!"
I have never seen one irl, only in articles. The supply is still nowhere near the demand.

I guess I misread your post. I think the only way you see one is to own it. Demand is high, but you can get one if you look online. Best buy & Walmart are your best bets.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Best Buy has the console versions of Cyberpunk on sale for 10 bucks. So I bit, we'll see how well it really runs when I get around to playing it.

I was about to come post this, figured for $10 why the hell not. It's supposed to be decent on PS5 and CDPR has a PS5 patch coming. It's not like CDPR can afford to Anthem this game either, as they don't have other wildly profitable franchises like Battlefield and FIFA to fall back on like EA does. Also comes with a free steelbook.

 

[sze5003]

I was about to come post this, figured for $10 why the hell not. It's supposed to be decent on PS5 and CDPR has a PS5 patch coming. It's not like CDPR can afford to Anthem this game either, as they don't have other wildly profitable franchises like Battlefield and FIFA to fall back on like EA does. Also comes with a free steelbook.

I'll be curious to see how it looks and runs on ps5 with the ps5 patch. I just started playing cyberpunk again since I got a new GPU and it looks great with all the ray tracing and cranked up graphics. Story wise it's a linear type title with an open world that doesn't translate to the type of open worlds we are used to interacting with.

Still lots of AI work and things they need to fix but I'm not sure that stuff can be fixed. They would need to no man sky this game at this point. Just a bunch of stuff missing that shouldn't be, even if the content we got was cut out to meet deadlines.

It's still a fun title to play around in, but it by no means has the polish of what it should have had based on what it was being hyped up to be. Which is why I say if you just go through the story line it can be fun because the outside world is more like a backdrop.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I'll be curious to see how it looks and runs on ps5 with the ps5 patch. I just started playing cyberpunk again since I got a new GPU and it looks great with all the ray tracing and cranked up graphics. Story wise it's a linear type title with an open world that doesn't translate to the type of open worlds we are used to interacting with.

Still lots of AI work and things they need to fix but I'm not sure that stuff can be fixed. They would need to no man sky this game at this point. Just a bunch of stuff missing that shouldn't be, even if the content we got was cut out to meet deadlines.

It's still a fun title to play around in, but it by no means has the polish of what it should have had based on what it was being hyped up to be. Which is why I say if you just go through the story line it can be fun because the outside world is more like a backdrop.

What gpu are you running? I hope PS5 gets a decent 1080p30 with rt patch with crowds on high. Right now crowds are pretty sparse on PS5 unlike Series X that has a high crowds mode.

 

[sze5003]

What gpu are you running? I hope PS5 gets a decent 1080p30 with rt patch with crowds on high. Right now crowds are pretty sparse on PS5 unlike Series X that has a high crowds mode.

I'm using a 9900k and a 3080Ti at 3440x1440. Most of my settings mimick the settings and ray tracer settings that digital foundry recommended in a video a while back. Performance could be better but it ranges from 59-80fps depending on what's going on and where you are on the map.

The lower fps clips are mainly while driving.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

DQ XI was a great throwback to a bygone era of JRPGS from my childhood, but with a sleek coat of modern graphics. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Finally rolled the credits, though I peeked ahead and found out there is a ton still left to do in the game. I can say for 100% certain I'm a Day 1 buyer of Dragon Quest XII now. Hope they don't pull what they did with XI where you have to wait two years to get the full version of the game though. Then again Persona has been pulling this act for 15+ years now so I guess I should expect it.

 

[zinfamous]

What gpu are you running? I hope PS5 gets a decent 1080p30 with rt patch with crowds on high. Right now crowds are pretty sparse on PS5 unlike Series X that has a high crowds mode.

well, you will definitely want to cut the crowds down in CP--the unending spawning of zombie NPCs is what breaks most of the game

 

[cmdrdredd]

Chip shortage?!? Sony sold over 600,000 PS5 units in July.

Ford has a factory backlot filled with F150s waiting on chips for the ECU. Literally thousands of vehicles ready to go. You still can’t find a RTX 3080 or RX6900 in good supply. Memory is expensive, it will hit phone manufacturers soon too. It’s lasted far too long and doesn’t seem it will end.

 

[cmdrdredd]

PS5 sales have been outstanding! Sony has sold every PS5 they've made. The PS5 is on a path to be Sony's best selling console ever. Sony has already sold over 10 million PS5 units. You sound like you've actually seen PS5 in stores. Did you take pics, because I haven't, and neither has anyone else I know.

And 4 million of them sit on scalper listings lol.

Seriously though don’t act like a shortage of semiconductors doesn’t exist. It really does because of it didn’t, you could go to the store and get one and certain PC hardware too. Plus vehicle manufacturers basically can’t build some cars while they wait for supply.

 

[jpiniero]

Ford has a factory backlot filled with F150s waiting on chips for the ECU. Literally thousands of vehicles ready to go.

That's because they gave up their production slots at the beginning of the pandemic and can't get it back.

You still can’t find a RTX 3080 or RX6900 in good supply.

That's because of mining.

 

[blckgrffn]

And 4 million of them sit on scalper listings lol.

Seriously though don’t act like a shortage of semiconductors doesn’t exist. It really does because of it didn’t, you could go to the store and get one and certain PC hardware too. Plus vehicle manufacturers basically can’t build some cars while they wait for supply.

Yeah, there was a chip shortage due to COVID wackiness and substrate shortages that caught everyone by surprise.

BUT.

This is like a Wii situation. Sony has already said they are pleased with the sales rate and are not going to flex/invest to increase production. This doesn't appear to be shortage driven at all, if anything it's just an import to the US situation where there are probably units sitting on ships outside LA. Making more in Asia doesn't help with that at all.

They must see plenty of them being activated because I think they mentioned digital attach rates are really good.

There isn't crap in the Minneapolis area for even scalper purchases. There are a handful at ~$700. Compared to the 2x+ phantom MSRP's on GPUs... well 🤷‍♂️ I paid almost $700 for my bundle at Costco after sales tax and everything. Looks like if you pay $150-$200 you could just have one and be done with it.

Fighting to find GPUs that's the *best* I have done with a 6700xt and two 3080 GPUs and the friends I hooked up on those 3080's were super happy to get them at that price (~$1k).

I mean yeah, it sucks, but you can just get one any time for a little more. It's like the way of all desirable things right now in the USA.

 

[jpiniero]

HZD2 now has an official release date - Feb 18th. Also the first one aparently just got a 60 fps patch.

 

[sze5003]

HZD2 now has an official release date - Feb 18th. Also the first one aparently just got a 60 fps patch.

Haha nice right on my birthday. It might get delayed but from what I saw of the gameplay video it looked interesting. The story of the first title didn't do much for me but the gameplay was very fun.