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ksosx86

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My apologies to you and mr Buildzoid, I had no idea this young man was god's gift to engineering cooling solutions for all products. No idea why he's wasting his time collecting pennies on patreon instead of replacing Microsoft's engineers and making some real money and shame on Microsoft for overlooking his genius. The fact is the Series X is out in the wild and its cooling solution is keeping the machine running within specs, cool, quiet and not crashing. If you have evidence of this not being the case, feel free to share it.

No one is going to overclock or overvolt their Series X.
I wonder too about some of these "Engineers in name only" but hey whatever these guys might be doing this part-time while working an actual full-time gig. I'm not going to just pull someone down unless given reason to. Actual concrete reason. I will say to your point however that people need to manage their expectations. Never put too much reliance on one source for anything and that's just a good life lesson period.

If you see something you don't like and want to criticize or correct it, from the inside out can be a long and arduous process as opposed to "Buildzoid" (Sorry but is he a rapper?) So yeah the whole "god's gift thing" can become a bit overdrawn I hear you there. Companies beware if they put too much stock in what people say far as I'm concerned. Professional credentials help in my opinion and to a degree.

They show you have been exposed to multiple environments in capacities where you had hands-on experience with all of the things you are relating to. So in my eyes, while that might be a detraction for many to most people especially those I work with; we're pretty objective with realities that have to do with our work (engineering) regardless of the source (at least I am) if it's a 20-year-old kid so be it and good for him far as I care.

I think making a name for yourself can either really work for you or against you. It requires a degree of self-control and tact that many young people lack but it's not to say they cannot do it. Optics, optics are important in the professional world, even mine. The perception of something is more important than reality at times which can really suck but it's a good thing to be aware of if you value your job. Also knowing when to explain the situation is completely wrong and provide the solution and when not to. Odd as that last one may sound lol.
 
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purbeast0

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Just got this email from Gamestop about my PS5 preorder.

Thank you so much for pre-ordering the next generation of PlayStation from GameStop! Your Order Number xxxxxx is going to be in your hands before you know it!

In preparation for shipping your order, we wanted to remind you that you selected Premium shipping which may deliver as many as 2-4 Business Days after launch day. This means your order will arrive no later than November 17th.

But it’s not too late to upgrade your shipping so you can experience the next generation as soon as possible! If you would like to receive your console on launch day (November 12th), please call us at 855-474-7717 between 8 AM and 6 PM Central Time, and one of our agents will assist you in updating your order.


We appreciate your business! If you require any additional assistance, we will be more than happy to help you.


Have a great day,

Your friends at GameStop.com

They wanted like $30 for launch day delivery so screw that.
 

sze5003

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Just got this email from Gamestop about my PS5 preorder.



They wanted like $30 for launch day delivery so screw that.
Does it really matter though if it is delivered after the 12th? I thought most people aren't too eager to get the system since there aren't any decent launch titles.

At this point I don't care when I get one. I'll be more focused on upgrading my pc and then pick up a ps5 when it's easily available.
 

purbeast0

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Does it really matter though if it is delivered after the 12th? I thought most people aren't too eager to get the system since there aren't any decent launch titles.

At this point I don't care when I get one. I'll be more focused on upgrading my pc and then pick up a ps5 when it's easily available.
Yeah I don't really care. Depending on the resale value of them though I might sell mine because as you said, there are no games really. But I eventually will get one so I may keep it.
 

purbeast0

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This looks so much better than the default PS5.

 

Commodus

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This looks so much better than the default PS5.


I'm fine with the default colors, but those do look slick.

Also, it's quite funny that we've come back to Xbox 360-style customization after all this time.
 

Aikouka

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I wonder if the ability to easily customize the colors of your console will become a somewhat popular feature. Don't like the typical white or black colors? Just buy a relatively inexpensive set of plastic pieces in your favorite color! There's also no reason why someone couldn't make a deluxe component made out of more exotic (for a console) materials like wood or metal.

I also don't see any reason why you couldn't effectively change the shape by simply having more material. For example, why couldn't the disc drive's bulge just go down the entire length so long as you're willing to pay for the material to do so.

This isn't the first time that console customization was a thing as the Xbox 360 had it with the original version of the console. Although, I believe that was only the face plate and not the entire shell. (Although, of course, you could just take your console apart and replace the shell, but it wasn't designed for it.)

Ultimately, I'd likely be willing to pay $40 to turn my console black... of course, I'd rather it just be black from the beginning, but if someone likes that blue or red, which is an uncommon color for a console, they'd be in luck.
 

cmdrdredd

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Just got this email from Gamestop about my PS5 preorder.



They wanted like $30 for launch day delivery so screw that.

They get the systems early, they can ship it early so that it arrives on or within a day of launch. They just want more money
 

Ackmed

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Does it really matter though if it is delivered after the 12th? I thought most people aren't too eager to get the system since there aren't any decent launch titles.

At this point I don't care when I get one. I'll be more focused on upgrading my pc and then pick up a ps5 when it's easily available.

I'd love to find a MSI 3080 at a normal price. Very annoying all these new releases and very limited quantities.

I waited a bit too long to try and pre-order, and now can't find one. Guess I'll be waiting a few weeks to get one after release. Bought my new TV just for the PS5, ugh.
 

sze5003

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I'd love to find a MSI 3080 at a normal price. Very annoying all these new releases and very limited quantities.

I waited a bit too long to try and pre-order, and now can't find one. Guess I'll be waiting a few weeks to get one after release. Bought my new TV just for the PS5, ugh.
Quantities were pretty bad and still are for these GPU's. Might as well wait now as you don't have much of an option, and see what happens after AMD reveals their cards. I figure that by the time I can get some card to replace my 1080ti, I'll probably want to replace the cpu, cooling, and probably the motherboard too.
 

Aikouka

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One interesting thing that I saw on Forbes (that also affects the Xbox) is that the new receivers from companies like Denon do not properly support 4K120. They're supposed to, but apparently, the HDMI chip from Panasonic is flawed and as a result, the receiver just outputs a black screen. This may be a big deal if people like @Ackmed are upgrading TVs and/or receivers just for the HDMI 2.1 features.
 

quikah

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One interesting thing that I saw on Forbes (that also affects the Xbox) is that the new receivers from companies like Denon do not properly support 4K120. They're supposed to, but apparently, the HDMI chip from Panasonic is flawed and as a result, the receiver just outputs a black screen. This may be a big deal if people like @Ackmed are upgrading TVs and/or receivers just for the HDMI 2.1 features.

Here is a non-Forbes link https://www.techradar.com/news/xbox-series-xs-hdmi-21-port-has-a-small-compatibility-problem
(cannot stand Forbes)

Looks like best to use eARC to connect to the receiver.
 

Ackmed

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One interesting thing that I saw on Forbes (that also affects the Xbox) is that the new receivers from companies like Denon do not properly support 4K120. They're supposed to, but apparently, the HDMI chip from Panasonic is flawed and as a result, the receiver just outputs a black screen. This may be a big deal if people like @Ackmed are upgrading TVs and/or receivers just for the HDMI 2.1 features.

Reports like this are disturbing, I tried to do my research before buying a TV. I'm wary of marketing speak, ALLM and VRR, and other new fangled acronyms. HDMI 2.1 is a big factor. I decided on the LG 77" OLED, reviews tended to favor it to play games, based on the connection and quality of the screen. Ironically, Sony's own TV that they highly touted for the PS5, seems to be terrible with it, because it wont get HDMI 2.1 until after a software update down the road. wtf?
 

zinfamous

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Reports like this are disturbing, I tried to do my research before buying a TV. I'm wary of marketing speak, ALLM and VRR, and other new fangled acronyms. HDMI 2.1 is a big factor. I decided on the LG 77" OLED, reviews tended to favor it to play games, based on the connection and quality of the screen. Ironically, Sony's own TV that they highly touted for the PS5, seems to be terrible with it, because it wont get HDMI 2.1 until after a software update down the road. wtf?

well I mean, that does sound exactly like something Sony would do.
 

cmdrdredd

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One interesting thing that I saw on Forbes (that also affects the Xbox) is that the new receivers from companies like Denon do not properly support 4K120. They're supposed to, but apparently, the HDMI chip from Panasonic is flawed and as a result, the receiver just outputs a black screen. This may be a big deal if people like @Ackmed are upgrading TVs and/or receivers just for the HDMI 2.1 features.

I’ve ran 4k120 through my AVR already. Denon x2700h. Luckily though you can go through the TV’s HDMI 2.1 and use eARC to pass audio back. Does this only affect HDMI 2.1 sources or only with HDR?
 
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Aikouka

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Reports like this are disturbing, I tried to do my research before buying a TV. I'm wary of marketing speak, ALLM and VRR, and other new fangled acronyms. HDMI 2.1 is a big factor. I decided on the LG 77" OLED, reviews tended to favor it to play games, based on the connection and quality of the screen. Ironically, Sony's own TV that they highly touted for the PS5, seems to be terrible with it, because it wont get HDMI 2.1 until after a software update down the road. wtf?

ALLM and VRR are two of the larger reasons why I'd upgrade my TV. If you don't use your TV for video, then leaving it on a game mode wouldn't be a big deal, which would invalidate the need for ALLM. Although, the thing that the article stated was that they didn't have an issue if you were just going straight to the TV. Although, with what @cmdrdredd said about how 4K120 works for him, I wonder if there's more to this problem?

I found an article on AV Forums about it, and it includes a statement from Denon/Marantz confirming the issue.
 

cmdrdredd

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They released the firmware update last week.

BTW: HDTVTest is a great channel

Don’t those TVs only have one or two HDMI 2.1 port though? With the AVR chipset issue you may need 3. one for Pc, and two for HDMI 2.1 consoles.
 

cmdrdredd

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ALLM and VRR are two of the larger reasons why I'd upgrade my TV. If you don't use your TV for video, then leaving it on a game mode wouldn't be a big deal, which would invalidate the need for ALLM. Although, the thing that the article stated was that they didn't have an issue if you were just going straight to the TV. Although, with what @cmdrdredd said about how 4K120 works for him, I wonder if there's more to this problem?

I found an article on AV Forums about it, and it includes a statement from Denon/Marantz confirming the issue.

Reading up on it the issue only appears when a 2.1 device is sending the HDMI FRL signal a certain way at 4K 120hz with HDR or 8k 60hz with HDR. I only have a 2.0b device that can do 4K 120hz but only in 8bit color. Apparently the way the PS5 sends the signal is in a different format that passes fine and reports are that the ps5 may not present this issue when connected to an AVR using the problematic chips. The work around is to use eARC from the Tv but for many that isn’t a fully working solution. Many Sony TVs have only a single 2.1 port and some Samsung TVs have 2 but one is actually the eARC port. Lots of very angry people out there. LG seems to be the only manufacturer that offers enough 2.1 ports to cover this.
 

purbeast0

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The size has been known for a while now. It's kind of odd people in here are now starting to talk about how large it is.
 

simas

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Don’t those TVs only have one or two HDMI 2.1 port though? With the AVR chipset issue you may need 3. one for Pc, and two for HDMI 2.1 consoles.

I still fail to see how any of this is Sony (or any other TV maker) issue, wouldn't the problem lay with AVR manufacturer (if specific functionality was indeed promised and not possible)?

and if it was not promised (and people assumed ) then it is on people - i.e. i have Denon AVR from 2016 that I am still happy with. it does what they say it would do then. they also released firmware updates over the years increasing functionality (with no cost to me). It does not do some ulta fancy brag whatever stuff (16K@480Hrz , etc) and as consumer I know it. If I want new capabilities, I would have to buy new equipment.
 
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