OFFICIAL STAR WARS THREAD

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: WdnUlik2no

Originally posted by: Jynx980

Originally posted by: SmackdownHotel

- The scene where Vader steps off the operating bed for the first time and walks around like some clumsy Frankenstein is dumb. The "noooooooo" scream was also pointless. It was especially disappointing because it followed a very intense/emotional battle scene as well as the graphic scenes of a charred/disfigured Anakin being rescued by the Imperial doctors.

- Closing scene was perfect.

On Science of Star Wars, on the discovery channel, they said that the vader suit was custom, digitly created for Hayden Christensen with a weight in the helmet part to make it look awkward as its the first time he is wearing it along with being emotionaly and physically crippled.

Watched Episode II tonight on Fox (damn you! where was Family Guy!) I didnt understand
the Jango Fett/cloning deal. Did the emperor order the clones? What was that mentioned a Jedi ordering the clones but dieing 10 years ago? Jango's son is really his unaltered clone correct? Who was Padme's security gaurd? He looked a lot like Jango.

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

He also knew Vaboda.. the lost saber combat style..

Who is Vaboda?

Just found out that there is a ton of info at *surprise surprise* http://www.starwars.com/site/">Star Wars.com</a>

Yet another edit:

On the subject matter of Leia and her true mother:

Leia has few memories of her true mother, Padmé Amidala. All that Leia can recall is that she was beautiful, but sad.

Taken from Star Wars.com

To answer a couple of your questions. I believe Boba Fett is indeed a clone of Jengo. Remember when Obi won was told that Jengo wanted one un altered clone of himself? I think that clone is Boba.

I could be wrong about this but, I also believe that the emperor came up with the plan for the clone army. He needed an army that was completely in his control so that he could take over the Senate and kill all of the Jedi.

As for as the Jedi that ordered the clones that supposedly died 10 years ago, I have no idea. I was thinking it was Dooku (Tyrannus), but that didn't make any sense because everyone knew that Dooku never died.

I thought Jango's son became Boby Fett....heck wasn't his name Boba?(or was that just a clone of Jango that he took as his son?)

And I thought the Jedi that ordered the clone army was Quigon Jinn.

Anakin never exhibited the ability to 'Force Jump' as Obi-Wan did in EpisodeI. When Obi-Wan already had the high ground in EpIII there was no way an unpracticed Jedi was giong to be able to clear him- even though it was the most powerful of all Jedi.

He never really showed himself as the most powerful...

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Finally saw it over the weekend through uhhh....alternative means....since the wife is in the hospital and we likely won't see it in the theaters. Lucas should be banned from writing dialogue ever again. About the only good dialogue was between the Emperor and Anakin. Obi-Wan was good but his use of the word "younglings" made me want to chuckle instead of feeling bad for dead kids.

And should I say this, Samuel L. Jackson is not the baddest mofo in a galaxy far fary away. He stunk. His cry in pain was almost as bad as Vader's no.

Speaking of which, Vader's "Nooooooooooo" at the end was hilariously bad. It was like some bad 50s monster movie. Someone else had the great idea of replacing Vader's "Noooooooo" with Rainer Wolfcastle's "Meeeeennnndozzzza!" from the Simpson's.

Vader's Noooooeeesssss!!!!!! at the end was on par with Haydens acting in the movie. You have to remember, that Vader at this point is still a kid. So he doesn't have quite the dramatic effect as he does when he is older and wiser and more incontrol. We know James Earl Jones is capable of delevering a better yell.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
anyone know how much this movie made for the opening weekend?

$108.5 Million on opening weekend. Short of the record of $114 million set by Sony's Spiderman.

It did beat Spiderman for the first 3 days though (Thursday-Satruday for EpIII vs Friday-Sunday for Spiderman), it's only lower for the first weekend because it didn't open on a weekend.

http://www.andpop.com/article/4208

 

[Bryan]

Some thoughts:

Anakin may not have known he had any children. Only Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Bail Organa knew. During the funeral for Padme, you can see there is still a bump there. Could it have been made to look like she was still pregnant at the time of her death?

How can Owen be the son of Shmi? (Edit:He can't) When Anakin left Tatooine, he was 8-10 years old. His mother was sold to Cleg Lars after that. Only 10 years passed between Episodes I and II. Owen in the PT is much too old to be her son. Owen is not Anakin's blood relative.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Bryan
Some thoughts:

Anakin may not have known he had any children. Only Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Bail Organa knew. During the funeral for Padme, you can see there is still a bump there. Could it have been made to look like she was still pregnant at the time of her death?

How can Owen be the son of Shmi? When Anakin left Tatooine, he was 8-10 years old. His mother was sold to Cleg Lars after that. Only 10 years passed between Episodes I and II. Owen in the PT is much too old to be her son. Owen is not Anakin's blood relative.

He could be anakin's relative, just not his brother, by your logic. He could easily be a cousin or similar.

 

[Bryan]

Originally posted by: torpid

He could be anakin's relative, just not his brother, by your logic. He could easily be a cousin or similar.

How so? Anakin has no paternal relatives since he was conceived by the force. Owen could be his cousin if Cleg Lars and Shmi's sister (who according to everything we know doesn't exist) got it on.

Owen Lars is the son of Cleg and....?

but not Anakin's blood relative. He is only a stepbrother.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Bryan
Some thoughts:

Anakin may not have known he had any children. Only Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Bail Organa knew. During the funeral for Padme, you can see there is still a bump there. Could it have been made to look like she was still pregnant at the time of her death?

How can Owen be the son of Shmi? When Anakin left Tatooine, he was 8-10 years old. His mother was sold to Cleg Lars after that. Only 10 years passed between Episodes I and II. Owen in the PT is much too old to be her son. Owen is not Anakin's blood relative.

I think Shmi was Owen's step-mother. Not his natural mother.

 

[Bryan]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Bryan
Some thoughts:

Anakin may not have known he had any children. Only Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Bail Organa knew. During the funeral for Padme, you can see there is still a bump there. Could it have been made to look like she was still pregnant at the time of her death?

How can Owen be the son of Shmi? When Anakin left Tatooine, he was 8-10 years old. His mother was sold to Cleg Lars after that. Only 10 years passed between Episodes I and II. Owen in the PT is much too old to be her son. Owen is not Anakin's blood relative.

I think Shmi was Owen's step-mother. Not his natural mother.

Right, that's my point. Several in this thread thought otherwise.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: torpid

He could be anakin's relative, just not his brother, by your logic. He could easily be a cousin or similar.

How so? Anakin has no paternal relatives since he was conceived by the force. Owen could be his cousin if Cleg Lars and Shmi's sister (who according to everything we know doesn't exist) got it on.

Owen Lars is the son of Cleg and....?

but not Anakin's blood relative. He is only a stepbrother.

You are referring only to 1st cousins, but there are many degrees of cousins. Basically it could be anyone in his mom's family.

 

[Bryan]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: torpid

He could be anakin's relative, just not his brother, by your logic. He could easily be a cousin or similar.

How so? Anakin has no paternal relatives since he was conceived by the force. Owen could be his cousin if Cleg Lars and Shmi's sister (who according to everything we know doesn't exist) got it on.

Owen Lars is the son of Cleg and....?

but not Anakin's blood relative. He is only a stepbrother.

You are referring only to 1st cousins, but there are many degrees of cousins. Basically it could be anyone in his mom's family.

Okay, sure. But I was only trying to say they are not blood brothers or half brothers as some in this thread have suggested.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: torpid

He could be anakin's relative, just not his brother, by your logic. He could easily be a cousin or similar.

How so? Anakin has no paternal relatives since he was conceived by the force. Owen could be his cousin if Cleg Lars and Shmi's sister (who according to everything we know doesn't exist) got it on.

Owen Lars is the son of Cleg and....?

but not Anakin's blood relative. He is only a stepbrother.

You are referring only to 1st cousins, but there are many degrees of cousins. Basically it could be anyone in his mom's family.

Okay, sure. But I was only trying to say they are not blood brothers or half brothers as some in this thread have suggested.

Oh... sorry then. I saw blood relatives and thought you were saying that when the movie said it was his family it was only figurative. Which it may have been, but we don't know for sure.

 

[meltdown75]

saw this movie Saturday night and it was ok. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:1/2 / :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Bryan]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: torpid

He could be anakin's relative, just not his brother, by your logic. He could easily be a cousin or similar.

How so? Anakin has no paternal relatives since he was conceived by the force. Owen could be his cousin if Cleg Lars and Shmi's sister (who according to everything we know doesn't exist) got it on.

Owen Lars is the son of Cleg and....?

but not Anakin's blood relative. He is only a stepbrother.

You are referring only to 1st cousins, but there are many degrees of cousins. Basically it could be anyone in his mom's family.

Okay, sure. But I was only trying to say they are not blood brothers or half brothers as some in this thread have suggested.

Oh... sorry then. I saw blood relatives and thought you were saying that when the movie said it was his family it was only figurative. Which it may have been, but we don't know for sure.

Nope, you're right. I should have been more specific.

 

[tk149]

So Palpatine terminates FOUR Jedi Masters in under 10 seconds, and gives Mace Windu, and later Yoda, a hard time.

Who does he practice sparring with? How did he acquire that much skill? The Jedi Masters probably sparred with each other and the students all the time. It doesn't look like Palpatine spent a lot of quality time with Dooku or Grievous.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: tk149
So Palpatine terminates FOUR Jedi Masters in under 10 seconds, and gives Mace Windu, and later Yoda, a hard time.

Who does he practice sparring with? How did he acquire that much skill? The Jedi Masters probably sparred with each other and the students all the time. It doesn't look like Palpatine spent a lot of quality time with Dooku or Grievous.

he uses the dark side of the force to train himself in his mind...just like he used the dark side of the force to manipulate anakin into joining him

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

remember palpatine is very old, and his powers with the darkside of the force are so great that even the jedi could not sense his very evil presence. his strength lies in his ability to manipulate others around him into doing his bidding. he uses physical force as a last resort.

 

[bentwookie]

Originally posted by: tk149
So Palpatine terminates FOUR Jedi Masters in under 10 seconds, and gives Mace Windu, and later Yoda, a hard time.

Who does he practice sparring with? How did he acquire that much skill? The Jedi Masters probably sparred with each other and the students all the time. It doesn't look like Palpatine spent a lot of quality time with Dooku or Grievous.

He learnt everything from Darth Plagueis, then killed him.

from the script
PALPATINE: (continuing) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?
ANAKIN: No.
PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis
was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians
to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones
he cared about from dying.
ANAKIN: He could actually save people from death?

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be
unnatural.
ANAKIN: What happened to him?
PALPATINE: He became so powerful . . . the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power,
which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then
his apprentice killed him in his sleep. (smiles) Plagueis never saw it coming. It's ironic he could save
others from death, but not himself.

Lucas echoes the irony again in ROTJ when the emporer is killed by his apprentice, Vader.

 

[mect]

Some people like it, some people don't. I give it 9 out of 10. Loved it. Beginning kind of fades compared to the end, but still a great movie. I'm no movie critic (don't see any reason to try to become one as it seems to just decrease your enjoyment of a movie), but I had no problems with the acting or dialogue other than the No so often mentioned. I thought Anakin turning to the dark side was extremely well done. He was on a pendelum back and forth between obedience to the jedi code and his desires for Padme. Once he finally decides, in that one action of stopping Windu he has betrayed everything he had been taught, and all he was left with was Padme. At that point, Padme was the only thing he had left to lose. He would do anything to protect her. Well, I thought it was well done. I guess one other complaint I had was they still didn't get Yoda right. Well, they did, just not at the right time. Yoda fighting outside working their way into the temple was right. Yoda fighting Palpatine looked to much like a video game, just like in II. I guess he just doesn't fit the way I always pictured him. Not making ninja like moves, but rather fighting simply but perfectly. Oh well. The confrontation of Obi Wan with Anakin though was incredible. In my opinion, it was easily the best seen of any of the star wars movies. For me, the emotion was there, everything just worked. Overall, the movie hit in second for the series behind V.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: bentwookie

Originally posted by: tk149
So Palpatine terminates FOUR Jedi Masters in under 10 seconds, and gives Mace Windu, and later Yoda, a hard time.

Who does he practice sparring with? How did he acquire that much skill? The Jedi Masters probably sparred with each other and the students all the time. It doesn't look like Palpatine spent a lot of quality time with Dooku or Grievous.

He learnt everything from Darth Plagueis, then killed him.

from the script
PALPATINE: (continuing) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?
ANAKIN: No.
PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis
was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians
to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones
he cared about from dying.
ANAKIN: He could actually save people from death?

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be
unnatural.
ANAKIN: What happened to him?
PALPATINE: He became so powerful . . . the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power,
which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then
his apprentice killed him in his sleep. (smiles) Plagueis never saw it coming. It's ironic he could save
others from death, but not himself.

Lucas echoes the irony again in ROTJ when the emporer is killed by his apprentice, Vader.

The way Palpatine told the story, I was under the impression that this took place a long time ago, since he implies that the Jedi Masters knew of this tale. Of course, if the Jedi Masters knew about Palpatine, they would have dealt with him long ago.

Also, if Plagueis DID teach Palpatine everything he knew, why didn't Palpatine know how to save people from death also?

 

[Chompman]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: bentwookie

Originally posted by: tk149
So Palpatine terminates FOUR Jedi Masters in under 10 seconds, and gives Mace Windu, and later Yoda, a hard time.

Who does he practice sparring with? How did he acquire that much skill? The Jedi Masters probably sparred with each other and the students all the time. It doesn't look like Palpatine spent a lot of quality time with Dooku or Grievous.

He learnt everything from Darth Plagueis, then killed him.

from the script
PALPATINE: (continuing) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?
ANAKIN: No.
PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis
was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians
to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones
he cared about from dying.
ANAKIN: He could actually save people from death?

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be
unnatural.
ANAKIN: What happened to him?
PALPATINE: He became so powerful . . . the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power,
which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then
his apprentice killed him in his sleep. (smiles) Plagueis never saw it coming. It's ironic he could save
others from death, but not himself.

Lucas echoes the irony again in ROTJ when the emporer is killed by his apprentice, Vader.

The way Palpatine told the story, I was under the impression that this took place a long time ago, since he implies that the Jedi Masters knew of this tale. Of course, if the Jedi Masters knew about Palpatine, they would have dealt with him long ago.

Also, if Plagueis DID teach Palpatine everything he knew, why didn't Palpatine know how to save people from death also?

Well in many of the books Palpatine transferred his mind and powers over to cloned bodies he had waiting because the dark side destroyed his body very fast with it's destructive powers.

So this could had been what he was referring to in a part.

And the bodies didn't have to be that close seeing how he was able to do this when he was falling to his doom in the 2nd death star.

So who knows how old Palpatine was.

 

[Howard]

What is the origin of the prophecy that Anakin was the chosen one? Also, were his dreams real prophesying (using the Force, or whatever) or were they just coincidence? After a bit of thought, it seemed like Padme dying from childbirth was actually a self-fulfulling prophecy. Sucks to be Anakin.

 

[Chompman]

Originally posted by: Howard
What is the origin of the prophecy that Anakin was the chosen one? Also, were his dreams real prophesying (using the Force, or whatever) or were they just coincidence? After a bit of thought, it seemed like Padme dying from childbirth was actually a self-fulfulling prophecy. Sucks to be Anakin.

Remember his son Luke had the ability to see his friends in pain in cloud city so I am assuming he got that trait from his father.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: Howard
What is the origin of the prophecy that Anakin was the chosen one? Also, were his dreams real prophesying (using the Force, or whatever) or were they just coincidence? After a bit of thought, it seemed like Padme dying from childbirth was actually a self-fulfulling prophecy. Sucks to be Anakin.

Foresight was once a common Jedi ability but clouded by recent events so that only a few had it.

 

[WdnUlik2no]

These are the most stupid things I have heard people say about Star Wars. This is not directed towards anybody on this board, all of you seem to know the story very well. But in person I have heard some people say some really stupid things about Star Wars.

1. I read a review on Amazon.com about Phantom Menace, "Obi wan is back now, along with C-3PO with a new beginning and a fresh start" I paraphrased here, becuase I had no idea WTF they were talking about! So I guess Obi Wan came back from death and became young again and had to train as a Jedi all over again. Makes no sense at all!

2. This guy at work told me he wouldn't watch it because its brand new characters meaning that he thought that I - III happened AFTER IV - VI. When I told him that I - III happened BEFORE IV - VI, he was dumfounded! I was thinking to myself DUUUUHH!! When I started to explain it further, he then just told me he didn't want to watch it because he "grew up" back in the 80's. and left my desk. LOL What a cop out!

3. I have actually heard someone say that Anakin becomes the "New" Darth Vadar. WTF??!!

4. But the dumbest thing I have heard about the series has to be when I finished watching Phantom menance in the theatre. As I was leaving, I heard some lady say "Oh I get it now, Anakin is Luke's son!" No comment, I have nothing to say about this!

 

[WdnUlik2no]

Originally posted by: bentwookie

Originally posted by: JEDI
re: blue girl jedi w/big tits

what star wars tv show?!

your username is jedi and you don't know about the tv show?
lucas is going to do a tv show starting in 2006..he will write and direct the first season, then turn it over to various directors for the rest of the seasons...2 rumored directors are Kevin Smith, Robert Rodrigeuz ...but,amy allen, the girl who played the blue jedi Aayla Secura said her character didn't die off and would be back for the tv show.

Oh no, TV shows will ruin it! :-( Remember that Ewok show back in the 80's?