Official Swiftboat Thread

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arsbanned

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So, Bob Dole now explains his outburst. He's angry "his guy" is getting dumped on, so he lashed out.
But this is after we?d had somebody called Vice President Cheney a coward. They?ve called Bush ?a deserter? that he was AWOL, that he?s condoned torture, that he?s condoned poisoning of pregnant women. I mean, all these nasty, nasty, over-the-top attacks.

And they spent $65 million trying to defame President Bush. I told John Kerry on the telephone the next day. I said, ?John, President Bush is my guy. And when I see all the people dumping on him, and all the misstatements and?and untruths, it kind of riles me up a little.? So maybe I expressed that on Sunday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5820820/

I post this here because the original thread is locked and it is related to the Swiftboat controversy (Dole was weighing in on it)
 

conjur

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Dems late Wednesday asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to open a criminal investigation into links between the Bush camp and the anti-Kerry veterans' group...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040826/D84MK0K80.html
A senior House Democrat, Michigan Rep. John Dingell, sent a letter asking Attorney General John Ashcroft to investigate the possible "illegal coordination" between the two. The Bush campaign and the veterans group have denied any coordination.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said the campaign knew Ginsberg had other clients but didn't know he was advising the Swift Boat group until reporters began asking about it Tuesday. Ginsberg said Wednesday that the campaign didn't ask for his resignation.
 
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Originally posted by: conjur
Dems late Wednesday asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to open a criminal investigation into links between the Bush camp and the anti-Kerry veterans' group...

LOL - all I can say to that is good luck!
 

Kibbo

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I'd just like to take the time to thank the mods for keeping this crap in here, and not ruining my morning coffee.

Ditto with the AWOL thread.
 

smashp

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Jerome R. Corsi will be at my local Barnes and noble signing "Unfit for command" on Sat.

boy, I find this Hypocritical Considering Oneil Already downplayed his role as an author and said he was "just an editor" when the anti jew, anti catholic, and Anti Islam statement came out accredited to Corsi.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: smashp
Jerome R. Corsi will be at my local Barnes and noble signing "Unfit for command" on Sat.

boy, I find this Hypocritical Considering Oneil Already downplayed his role as an author and said he was "just an editor" when the anti jew, anti catholic, and Anti Islam statement came out accredited to Corsi.

Be sure to post some pics and the transcript of your conversation with him.


Perhaps print out this thread and hand it to him and ask him why he continues to promote a book filled with lies from people proven to be liars!
 

burnedout

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Bob Dole spoke on MSNBC concerning his earlier anti-Kerry remarks, Swiftboat vets, yada yada, etc... etc.

So this time you?ve got a candidate named John Kerry who had a good record in Vietnam, came back from the service, denounced the war, in effect, trashed the Americans who were still fighting there. Went before a Senate committee in April of 1971, threw away his ribbons or his medals or whatever and now is standing before the American people and saying you?ve got to elect me because I?m this Vietnam hero. . .
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: smashp
Jerome R. Corsi will be at my local Barnes and noble signing "Unfit for command" on Sat.

boy, I find this Hypocritical Considering Oneil Already downplayed his role as an author and said he was "just an editor" when the anti jew, anti catholic, and Anti Islam statement came out accredited to Corsi.


You should ask him where his white, pointy hat is
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Bob Dole spoke on MSNBC concerning his earlier anti-Kerry remarks, Swiftboat vets, yada yada, etc... etc.

So this time you?ve got a candidate named John Kerry who had a good record in Vietnam, came back from the service, denounced the war, in effect, trashed the Americans who were still fighting there. Went before a Senate committee in April of 1971, threw away his ribbons or his medals or whatever and now is standing before the American people and saying you?ve got to elect me because I?m this Vietnam hero. . .

So...another person that just doesn't get. I thought Dole was smarter than that.
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: smashp
Jerome R. Corsi will be at my local Barnes and noble signing "Unfit for command" on Sat.

boy, I find this Hypocritical Considering Oneil Already downplayed his role as an author and said he was "just an editor" when the anti jew, anti catholic, and Anti Islam statement came out accredited to Corsi.

Be sure to post some pics and the transcript of your conversation with him.


Perhaps print out this thread and hand it to him and ask him why he continues to promote a book filled with lies from people proven to be liars!

Or hand him this, Or hand these Out in the parking Lot.


Following are some examples. [Spelling and punctuation are Corsi's own.]

On Catholics and the Pope

CORSI: Maybe while he's there he can tell the UN what he's going to do about the sexual crimes committed by "priests" in his "Church" during his tenure. Or, maybe that's the connection -- boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press. (03/03/2003)

CORSI: So this is what the last days of the Catholic Church are going to look like. Buggering boys undermines the moral base and the laywers rip the gold off the Vatican altars. We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that's probably about it. (12/16/2002)

On Islam and Arabs

CORSI: Let's see exactly why it isn't the case that Islam is a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion? Where's the proof to the contrary? (04/24/2004)

CORSI: Islam is like a virus -- it affects the mind -- maybe even better as an analogy -- it is a cancer that destroys the body it infects... No doctor would hesitate to eliminate cancer cells from the body. (11/26/02)

CORSI: Islam is a peaceful religion as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered, and the infidels killed. (11/22/2002)

CORSI: How's this as an analogy -- the Koran is simply the "software" for producing deviant cancer cell political behavior and violence in human beings. (02/15/2002)

CORSI: Think the liberal press will ever let out that these 2 were lovers -- typical Islamic boy-buggering -- older man, younger man -- black Muslims? I doubt it. Not a pretty picture, but one certain to be hidden by PC media. (11/08/2002)

CORSI: Isn't the Democratic Party the official SODOMIZER PROTECTION ASSOCIATION of AMERICA -- oh, I forgot, it was just an accident that Clintoon's first act in office was to promote "gays in the military." RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together. (11/18/2001)

On Senator John Kerry

CORSI: First let's undermine the US in Vietnam. Then we can go for gay marriage. When you get to be Pres. JFK-lite, there will be no end to how much of America we can destroy. (05/17/2004)

CORSI: Just don't let anybody put a tablet with the Ten Commandments in front of the school where that girl wants to wear a Muslim scarf -- OH, No --- then the RATS would complain. Anti-Christian, Anti-American -- just like their Presidential Candidate -- Jean Francois Kerrie. (03/31/2004)

CORSI: After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal gradparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry? (03/04/2004)

CORSI: Kerry has a long history of Communist supporters. (03/12/2004)

CORSI: Kerry offers a clear choice. Anti-American hatred. (02/08/2004)

CORSI: John F*ing Commie Kerry and Commie Ted [Kennedy] discuss their plan to hand America over to our nation's enemies. (02/04/2004)

On former President Bill Clinton

CORSI: When is this guy going to admit he's simply an anti-American communist? Won't he and his leftist wife simply go away???? Enough already. (02/24/2002)

CORSI: Hey, Bill, didn't you steal enough when you had the chance? (02/15/2002)

CORSI: Clinton doesn't get it. Afganistan, and other Moslim countries, are not poor because they lack money. The culture itself is anti-modern. But then, maybe Slick did get it and he just wants to create another bork barrel from which he and his wife can draw slop. (02/15/2002)

CORSI: Clinton was more interested in gays in the military than going after OBL. Clinton had Janet Rhino pushing the FBI to deport a child to Castro's nondemocratic Cuba, not searching out OBL sleepers in the USA. Clinton was too busy getting BJs in the Oval Office to do more than Wag the Dog after the Cole was hit. (05/16/2002)

On Senator Hillary Clinton

CORSI: HELL-ary loves the Arabs so much (kiss, kiss Mrs. Arab*RAT) -- wonder how she would look in a Burkha? (05/21/2002)

CORSI: Mullah Ali'Gore-ah is very proud of his new Bin Laden beard and he hopes others in the Democratic Party will follow his lead. Hell-ary is disappointed she cannot grow a beard, but her press secretary reminds us she can still enroll in flight school. (01/07/02)

CORSI: Let the FAT HOG run!!! [regarding a possible presidential bid] (08/30/2003)

CORSI: Hellary should resign and go away. What ever happened to the people she ran over with her car at Westchester Airport? Can't anybody sue this b*tch? (11/17/2002)

CORSI: Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she? (06/08/2003)

On Chelsea Clinton

CORSI: According to Talk Magazine, Chubby Chelsea had a very great adventure on 9/11 in NYC and Hell-ary had the details wrong -- oh, it was terrible. (12/07/2001)

CORSI: Did the Journalist see Chubbie Chelsea among the wives. Little Katie Communist [Katie Couric] on the NBC Today show interviewed Hillary this morning and mom is worried sick about Chelsea. She was last seen in Kandahar at a Starbucks. But now, as Little Katie Communist sighed, "Who Knows?" Even British disinformation planted reports such as this grocery crap will be useful. Anyone with information about Chubbie Chelsea's whereabouts should post it now. Mom wants to know her daughter is out of harms way. Mom also wants to be at the center of the story. (11/29/2001)

CORSI: But the real question is: WHERE IS CHUBBIE CHELSEA? Is she in Kabul in danger, looking for a Starbucks? Waldo wants to know. Please, Little Katie Communist, HELP US FIND CHELSEA. THE SITUATION MAY BE URGENT. (11/29/2001)

CORSI: HILLARY SAYS CHELSEA IS MISSING AND JANET RHINO DOESN'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS? (11/28/2001)

On former Vice President Al Gore

CORSI: Gore isn't available for television. He is growing his regulation length Bin Laden beard. Mullah Ali'Gore-ah, as he now wishes to be called, is focused on his new career as a pilot. "Want to fly like bird," he says after his stint as a professor at Columbia. "No need to learn take-off or landing, just soar like bird and look at buildings." As to Florida, Mulllah Gore-ah says, "No big buildings," dismissing the importance of the state to his future plans." (12/15/2001)

On the Media

CORSI: Time to FREEP Chris Matthews of MSNBC. MSNBC is beginning to stand for "More Sh*t, Nothing But Communism." (05/16/2002)

CORSI: I didn't realize Little Katie Communist of the NBC Today Show knew how to hack a website. Finally something impressive from the little wimp. [responding to news that USA Today's website had been hacked and that the hackers were mocking President George W. Bush's Christianity] (07/12/2002)

CORSI: COMMUNISM -- it's simple NBC = NOTHING BUT COMMUNISM. (04/19/2004)

CORSI: Susan Estrogen -- even the voice grates. But then with supporters like her and Ted Kennedy, who needs enemies. Let Susan BLAH BLAH screatch -- only Chrissy Matthews whines better. (04/13/2004)

Assorted

CORSI: Perfect Liberal -- lesbian, self-absorbed, hates America, anxious to impose her values on everybody else. [on Martina Navratilova] (06/26/2002)

CORSI: And now we get Pooh-LEFTY pushed on us by the RATS as Minority Leader in the House -- here come the SanFrancisco liberals -- hope the RATS go back to focusing the debate on gay marriages and other pro-choice topics close to Pelosi's heart. (11/18/2002)

CORSI: Too bad the plane didn't crash into the TV set of the NBC show "THE LEFT WING" -- especially when Martin Sheen was "acting." (06/07/2003)
 

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Sounds like he's a speech writer for Ashcroft, Trent Lott, Frist, & DeLay.
They all have the same common element of 'Hate Them' with the childish taunts.
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: smashp
Jerome R. Corsi will be at my local Barnes and noble signing "Unfit for command" on Sat.

boy, I find this Hypocritical Considering Oneil Already downplayed his role as an author and said he was "just an editor" when the anti jew, anti catholic, and Anti Islam statement came out accredited to Corsi.


You should ask him where his white, pointy hat is

Maybe Ill get him to sign a copy of Mein Kaupf
 

wiin

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1EZduzit said.
The whole thing disgusts me personally, and reminds me why I never liked politics. I get the sense these SBVT guys are simply Bush supporters who are still upset with Kerry because he spoke out when returning from the war

Kerry lied in his testimony. that's what the Veterans want corrected. Last year, they wrote to Kerry to correct this but instead Kerry use this as the centerpiece of his campaign. Now that he is publicly being challenged, he is crying wolf. He admitted to some of the lies already. Instead of responding to the accusations, kerry is using his war machines to destroy and discredit the veterans. He said that he will defend America
but according to the veterans, he ran when things got tough. And to divert the public's attention to his lies, he accused the Bush campaign of running the SW veterans. Two from the Bush campain resigned as a result of this accusation.

Democrats demand probe of Bush-Vets connection. I hope this goes through. Then the GOP will have an excuse to go after Kerry's campaign and we'll see the hypocrisy of the Kerry campaign. Robert Bauer, national counsel to Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign, also works for the Bush-hating, pro-Kerry 527 group that calls itself America Coming Together. The media, an ally of Kerry, of course ignored this and that of Zach Exley, Jim Jordan and Joe Sandler (to mention just a few).

The thing about kerry's side is that people planning to vote for him vote for him because they hate President Bush, not because they support kerry. And that, in my opinion, is just sad.
 

jpeyton

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Hey if any of you Bushies get tired of ragging on Kerry, maybe you could enlighten me on GWB's record of service sometime.
 

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Bush has already denounced the Advertisements......why are the Dem's still calling on him to denounce them still?
 

jpeyton

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Bush denounced all of the ads in general, not the SBVT one in particular. Two of the people on his campaign staff have already resigned because they were linked to SBVT.

He's not going to denounce the ads directly because they serve him too well.
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Bush denounced all of the ads in general, not the SBVT one in particular. Two of the people on his campaign staff have already resigned because they were linked to SBVT.

He's not going to denounce the ads directly because they serve him too well.

Actually, yesterday he sort of endorsed them during the letter contreversy, saying that all veterans should be able to speak, not just those that support him, thus implying that the SBVT should be able to speak, eventhough they've been shown to be terribly unreliable.
 

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Originally posted by: smashp
Following are some examples. [Spelling and punctuation are Corsi's own.]

On Catholics and the Pope

CORSI: Maybe while he's there he can tell the UN what he's going to do about the sexual crimes committed by "priests" in his "Church" during his tenure. Or, maybe that's the connection -- boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press. (03/03/2003)

[. . .]

CORSI: Too bad the plane didn't crash into the TV set of the NBC show "THE LEFT WING" -- especially when Martin Sheen was "acting." (06/07/2003)
smashp, do you have a link/links for these quotes? If Coris comes to a bookstore near here, I'd love to organize a group to hand out flyers owning him with his own quotes, but would like documentation for the doubtful.
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: wiin
1EZduzit said.
The whole thing disgusts me personally, and reminds me why I never liked politics. I get the sense these SBVT guys are simply Bush supporters who are still upset with Kerry because he spoke out when returning from the war

Kerry lied in his testimony. that's what the Veterans want corrected.

I will assume that you mean the Winter Soldier Investigation testimony. Do you have any proof/evidence that the testimony he gave in front of Congress was a lie? Sadly, it appears from ancillary evidence that events as described in the report and referenced in his testimony did occur.

If the veterans(SBVfT) want the evidence given at the Winter Soldier's Investigation corrected, lying and destorying their own credibility is not a good way of doing it.
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: smashp
Following are some examples. [Spelling and punctuation are Corsi's own.]

On Catholics and the Pope

CORSI: Maybe while he's there he can tell the UN what he's going to do about the sexual crimes committed by "priests" in his "Church" during his tenure. Or, maybe that's the connection -- boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press. (03/03/2003)

[. . .]

CORSI: Too bad the plane didn't crash into the TV set of the NBC show "THE LEFT WING" -- especially when Martin Sheen was "acting." (06/07/2003)
smashp, do you have a link/links for these quotes? If Coris comes to a bookstore near here, I'd love to organize a group to hand out flyers owning him with his own quotes, but would like documentation for the doubtful.

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?

"jrlc" on Free Republic or Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.
 
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