Originally posted by: wiin
1EZduzit said.
The whole thing disgusts me personally, and reminds me why I never liked politics. I get the sense these SBVT guys are simply Bush supporters who are still upset with Kerry because he spoke out when returning from the war
Kerry lied in his testimony. that's what the Veterans want corrected. Last year, they wrote to Kerry to correct this but instead Kerry use this as the centerpiece of his campaign. Now that he is publicly being challenged, he is crying wolf. He admitted to some of the lies already. Instead of responding to the accusations, kerry is using his war machines to destroy and discredit the veterans. He said that he will defend America
but according to the veterans, he ran when things got tough. And to divert the public's attention to his lies, he accused the Bush campaign of running the SW veterans. Two from the Bush campain resigned as a result of this accusation.
Democrats demand probe of Bush-Vets connection. I hope this goes through. Then the GOP will have an excuse to go after Kerry's campaign and we'll see the hypocrisy of the Kerry campaign. Robert Bauer, national counsel to Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign, also works for the Bush-hating, pro-Kerry 527 group that calls itself America Coming Together. The media, an ally of Kerry, of course ignored this and that of Zach Exley, Jim Jordan and Joe Sandler (to mention just a few).
The thing about kerry's side is that people planning to vote for him vote for him because they hate President Bush, not because they support kerry. And that, in my opinion, is just sad.
Please Point out the Lies in this .......... I wont hold my breath.
Legislative Proposals Relating to the War in Southeast Asia Thursday, April 22, 1971 United States Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Washington, D.C.
"Winter soldier Investigation
I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.
It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.
We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, no reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out. "