Actually his pay records show he was not getting paid while he was not attending. However he still completed all required training and was paid for the training completed.
This is just not an issue.
Originally posted by: Harvey
But they only document his participation in the campaign, NOT his Air National Guard duty. All the ANG docs show is that he was not paid for flying planes.Originally posted by: charrison
There are documents that states he moved to alabama for the senate campaign job and the training he received that year.
Americans increasingly believe President Bush's re-election campaign is behind the ads attacking Democrat John Kerry's Vietnam experience, a poll found.
Almost half in a poll taken this week say they think the president's campaign is behind the ads that try to undercut Kerry's medals for heroism while just over a third think the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is an independent group, the National Annenberg Election Survey found.
The Swift boat ads, which ran in three swing states earlier this month, challenged Kerry's wartime service in Vietnam for which he received five medals.
The public's belief that Kerry did not earn his medals grew to 30 percent when the attack ads got widespread publicity on cable news networks. But that number has dropped to 24 percent now.
Kerry's campaign has accused President Bush of involvement in the ad campaign, a charge that was stepped up after Bush campaign counsel Benjamin Ginsberg acknowledged he was advising the group and resigned Wednesday from the Bush campaign.
In polling from Monday through Thursday, 46 percent said they believed the Bush campaign was behind the ads and 37 percent said they thought the ads were done independently.
Rove's comments were made the same day CREW discovered that a Republican party Committee website in Collier County Florida was soliciting donations for SBVT and showing the group's ads, something clearly not allowed under the Federal Election Campaign Act.
Originally posted by: MrPALCO
Just after watching a young John Kerry debate John O?Neil on C-Span I engaged in a little channel surfing.
After a few short clicks I came across another wealthy brat being interviewed in a mid 80?s American Justice Show. His arrogant manner, jutting jaw, erudite answers and general holier than thou attitude was shockingly similar to Kerry.
The big difference is, he got caught much sooner than your boy Kerry who is now toast thanks to these brave Swift Boat Vets.
That other mans name, Preppy murderer, Robert Chambers.
Originally posted by: MrPALCO
How many days did your "man" Kerry spend in the hospital to get those Purple Hearts?
PALTROLL -- Kerry's official military records show he served bravely and heroically under fire, and he was wounded three times. His own crewmates support his story. All of the swift liars lies about Kerry have now been refuted, some by their own records, some because they later admitted their statements in the ads and book are false.Originally posted by: MrPALCO
How many days did your "man" Kerry spend in the hospital to get those Purple Hearts?
Originally posted by: MrPALCO
How many days did your "man" Kerry spend in the hospital to get those Purple Hearts?
Originally posted by: DonVito
MrPALCO has been a troll on AT for nearly 5 years - you aren't going to get any satisfaction by debating him. He's intriguing just because he's so bizarre, but you can, as with any troll, just ignore him and eventually he'll go away.
In the meantime, enjoy his web page!
But the official records on Kerry's Web site only add to the confusion. The DD214 form, an official Defense Department document summarizing Kerry's military career posted on johnkerry.com, includes a "Silver Star with combat V."
But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star."
Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a "combat V" for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star "combat V," either.
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One award, three citations
But a third citation exists that appears to be the earliest. And it is not on the Kerry campaign Web site. It was issued by Vice Adm. Elmo Zumwalt, commander of U.S. naval forces in Vietnam. This citation lacks the language in the Hyland citation or that added by the Lehman version, but includes another 170 words in a detailed description of Kerry's attack on a Viet Cong ambush, his killing of an enemy soldier carrying a loaded rocket launcher, as well as military equipment captured and a body count of dead enemy.
Maj. Anthony Milavic, a retired Marine Vietnam veteran, calls the issuance of three citations for the same medal "bizarre." Milavic hosts Milinet, an Internet forum popular with the military community that is intended "to provide a forum in military/political affairs."
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Reporting by the Washington Post's Michael Dobbs points out that although the Kerry campaign insists that it has released Kerry's full military records, the Post was only able to get six pages of records under its Freedom of Information Act request out of the "at least a hundred pages" a Naval Personnel Office spokesman called the "full file."
What could that more than 100 pages contain? Questions have been raised about President Bush's drill attendance in the reserves, but Bush received his honorable discharge on schedule. Kerry, who should have been discharged from the Navy about the same time -- July 1, 1972 -- wasn't given the discharge he has on his campaign Web site until July 13, 1978. What delayed the discharge for six years? This raises serious questions about Kerry's performance while in the reserves that are far more potentially damaging than those raised against Bush.
Originally posted by: conjur
And Burkett is the source for that story?
Give me a break.
Burkett is just another hack and a proven liar.
Originally posted by: charrison
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But the official records on Kerry's Web site only add to the confusion. The DD214 form, an official Defense Department document summarizing Kerry's military career posted on johnkerry.com, includes a "Silver Star with combat V."
But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star."
Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a "combat V" for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star "combat V," either.
...
One award, three citations
But a third citation exists that appears to be the earliest. And it is not on the Kerry campaign Web site. It was issued by Vice Adm. Elmo Zumwalt, commander of U.S. naval forces in Vietnam. This citation lacks the language in the Hyland citation or that added by the Lehman version, but includes another 170 words in a detailed description of Kerry's attack on a Viet Cong ambush, his killing of an enemy soldier carrying a loaded rocket launcher, as well as military equipment captured and a body count of dead enemy.
Maj. Anthony Milavic, a retired Marine Vietnam veteran, calls the issuance of three citations for the same medal "bizarre." Milavic hosts Milinet, an Internet forum popular with the military community that is intended "to provide a forum in military/political affairs."
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Reporting by the Washington Post's Michael Dobbs points out that although the Kerry campaign insists that it has released Kerry's full military records, the Post was only able to get six pages of records under its Freedom of Information Act request out of the "at least a hundred pages" a Naval Personnel Office spokesman called the "full file."
What could that more than 100 pages contain? Questions have been raised about President Bush's drill attendance in the reserves, but Bush received his honorable discharge on schedule. Kerry, who should have been discharged from the Navy about the same time -- July 1, 1972 -- wasn't given the discharge he has on his campaign Web site until July 13, 1978. What delayed the discharge for six years? This raises serious questions about Kerry's performance while in the reserves that are far more potentially damaging than those raised against Bush.
Interesting stuff.
Originally posted by: conjur
Read this thread and you'll find where I proved Burkett a liar. It's not too far back.
Originally posted by: conjur
Uh, yes it does prove him a liar.
He claims Kerry never received medical treatment. The documents on Kerry's website proves that he did. Heck, that one swiftboat veteran claims to have been Kerry's doctor that treated his wound! LMAO!!! They're contradicting themselves left and right!!
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: conjur
Uh, yes it does prove him a liar.
He claims Kerry never received medical treatment. The documents on Kerry's website proves that he did. Heck, that one swiftboat veteran claims to have been Kerry's doctor that treated his wound! LMAO!!! They're contradicting themselves left and right!!
Maybe he not counting a bandaid as medical treatment.
Is that some sort of new math or just some number that was roaming around inside your arse?Originally posted by: digitalsm
It appears Kerry doesnt want his military record to be fully known as over 90% of his military records have yet to be released.