Official Xbox 360 Specs Sheet!!!

[GuitarDaddy]

If I read one more article or thread about how a $200-300 game console will PWN $5000-$10000 PC's I think my head will explode:roll:

You guys don't actually beleive this crap do you? This has been the hype for the last several consoles introduced and it's always proven to be pure BS. And will always be BS, wake up and smell reality!!!!.

I will sell you a modified 3cyl Hyundai for $5000 that eats Porsche's and Ferrari's for lunch:Q

 

[Skotos]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
If I read one more article or thread about how a $200-300 game console will PWN $5000-$10000 PC's I think my head will explode:roll:

You guys don't actually beleive this crap do you? This has been the hype for the last several consoles introduced and it's always proven to be pure BS. And will always be BS, wake up and smell reality!!!!.

I will sell you a modified 3cyl Hyundai for $5000 that eats Porsche's and Ferrari's for lunch:Q

^^^ that shows how stupid you are

 

[Skotos]

Originally posted by: faboloso112

Originally posted by: MrControversial
$299

Think razors and razor blades.

I thought it was 399...are you sure about the price?

the standard version is 299

versions with extra controllers etc

cost more

 

[jojo29]

Originally posted by: jdogg707

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
So am I the only one who thinks that either the specs or the release date is wishful thinking right now? I mean, PowerPC single cores top out at 2.7 on Mac water cooling, and no one's really even seen a dual/tri-cored PPC...but they're telling us it will run 3 x 3.2? It just all seems like a lot of vaporware, all things considered. It's a very exciting prospect, but damn that's a lot of uber hardware to package for console costs, all within 6 months.

Those aren't the same chips. This system isn't going to have 3 x 3.2GHZ G5 chips, these processors are very similar to the Cell processor that both Sony and Nintendo are going to be using.

Nintendo isnt going to be using Cell technology. Only Sony is

 

[jojo29]

ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

 

[Skotos]

Originally posted by: jojo29
ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

i bought the xbox just to play rtcw on xbox live

and its much cheaper then upgrading my computer

 

[Skotos]

Originally posted by: jojo29
ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

must quote you one more time

anyway i just want to say to everyone

buy what makes you happy

 

[jojo29]

Originally posted by: Skotos

Originally posted by: jojo29
ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

must quote you one more time

anyway i just want to say to everyone

buy what makes you happy

i agree with you "To each His(or Her) own" i say!! just letting some steam out because of "hype"

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: jojo29
ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

You have much hate and negativity inside. Calm down.

 

[Skotos]

i hate arguing over stupid **** like which is better blah blah blah.... ( if your not a f**king idiot you should know wats better for YOU )


i still cant bealive how powerful the upcoming consoles are considering the very cheap price

 

[jojo29]

You have much hate and negativity inside. Calm down.[/quote]

i said it was cool to each his own

 

[batmanuel]

I wish they would have gone ahead and thrown in WiFi capability from the get-go, like the PSP and the GameBoy DS. Sure, you have the option to add it later - but it would be nice to have the 360 ready to network wirelessly out of the box.

 

[Skotos]

yeah but they want to keep it simple i suppose for people who dont have wireless

and plus for its cost its a bargin already lol

 

[Venomous]

Originally posted by: jojo29
ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

The Village has lost its idiot and youre it!

Xbox 360 isnt using this generations graphics chip.. Its a dumbed down version of the R600 which its probably going to be the meanist video processor ever developed. Your fanboism is showing.. I got some common sense i would like to sell you.

Xbox 360 is going to tear Nintendo a new one.

 

[Skotos]

Originally posted by: Venomous

Originally posted by: jojo29
ok heres my take on this whole console xbox 360 stuff but first i must say this: i am a sony and nintendo fanboy. ok here it goes:

From what ive seen from the screenshots of the big bad 360, im not really impressed AT ALL. The racing game they showed didnt look "next generation" to me, Grand Turismo STILL looked good compared to that clip. if thats the case the 360 will be clobberd by nintendo and sony. see the thing with MS releasing their box now is that they are still using this generations' graphic cards.Granted their graphic card is 512MB but its still "this" generation.

Now what nintendo already has above the box is that they will be using ATI's R500 series which isnt even out yet!!i cant wait to see that! and what sony has going for them is their Cell technology, both of which are way "next" generation. MS also has to worry about developers being ready to develop for the next generation and according some some rumors alot of the smaller although very important developers are not ready..yet.

BUT like stated earlier, and which is why i hate microsoft(please i know its a hypocritical statement because of my pc and windows) is that bitch boy Bill Gates can throw money at his "franchise" until it gets beat into mainstream america's head. that is a huge advantage. But because of that Microsoft Games(their in house game developement) are sorry at making games for their own console. they threw in the towel with their sports line up, and they have very few hits. Nintendos in house development are uber good. Nintendo's games avg a 9 rating!!actually they already have '05 game of the year: Zelda!!thats all they have do. Sony has it many franchises that are of the highest quality and usually set the standard, the Jak and Ratchet series, Gran Turismo, God of War, the Socom series,etc,etc these are games that set the standard on the consoles.

now xbox has great games too but they are usually from outside developers like Tecmo(dead or alive series) and Bill Gates also had the nerve to "diss" nintendo as a "niche" franchise!! Not even Sony said that when they came into the market. I know this will bring the flames but you know what the real ranking of the 3 systems REALLY are??1Sony 2 NINTENDO 3 Xbox!!NO you say?? i have one word for you: Japan. thats right Nintendo spanked Microsoft in Japan and sales count WORLDWIDE. so WORLDWIDE the rankings again are Sony Nintendo and THEN Xbox. also what happens when a console doesnt do well in japan?? Dreamcast is what happens. oh well thats a whole other story

Anyways i guess what im trying to say is: I expected MUCH better, from what i've seen i CAN wait to see what Sony and Nintendo offer. MS's leap isnt that great its more of a step. Granted some games will be great but im willing to wait until next june to see the REAL next generation consoles, until then back to my lovely WoW experiance!!

heheh cant wait to hear the flames on this one!!

The Village has lost its idiot and youre it!

Xbox 360 isnt using this generations graphics chip.. Its a dumbed down version of the R600 which its probably going to be the meanist video processor ever developed. Your fanboism is showing.. I got some common sense i would like to sell you.

Xbox 360 is going to tear Nintendo a new one.

its funny how the first xbox was more powerful then ps2 and gaycube

looks like that thrend is going to continue

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: firefaux

Originally posted by: Dukemaster

I don't think you will still be laughing if you spend a lot of money on your new pc hardware when there are less and less games to play on it. Because that's going to happen trust me. More and more games are already coming out on the consoles first and soon less and less games are coming out for the pc.

where the hell did you come up with that conclusion? thats a load of shull bit. first of all, pc gaming is a huge industry, the video card and mobo industry is practically built on that (since when did you need a geforce 6800 to use powerpoint?) and looking at their financial numbers there is no downward trend in either vid card industry or the game making industry. hell, pc games are the main driving force behind pc hardware industry in general. pc games are even driving the console industry as well. just look at the newest consoles. they're practically pc's. as for games, i have to say most console games beeelow, and the good ones already either came out for the pc first or came out with a pc version.

The list of game genres that you can clearly state the PC as being superior in (FPS, RTS and maybe RPG) is getting narrower and narrower. All of the other genres are dominated by the consoles. Platformers, Racing, Sports, fighting, action etc. Its going to become increasingly harder to justify spending upwards of $2000 on a top flight gaming rig when you can arguably have a better all around gaming experience on a console. And for less than 1/5th of the cost of the PC.

It's not about genres, it's about games.

As far as I know, consoles have 0% of the installed user base of Half-Life 2 players, Battlefield series players, and World of Warcraft players.

Trust me, the PC is not going anywhere soon. Every time new consoles launch, everyone proclaims the death of the PC, and lo and behold 12 to 18 months later the PC breaks from equality and into the lead. 24 months later it's firmly walloping the consoles.

Consoles=static
PCs=dynamic

This same thing happened when Xbox/PS2 launched - everyone called the PC dead because the visuals were so amazing - and yet here we are.

I would like to point out that the reason consoles are becoming more appealing is BECAUSE THEY ARE BECOMING PCs. Wireless controllers, USB connectivity, a GUI, internet connection...HELLO?!? Consoles aren't killing the PC, they are JOINING THE CROWD.

I personally am all for that. If Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo want to build a gaming PC that is EXTREMELY powerful and sell it to me for a ridiculously low price, I have no problem with that. Given Xbox 360s multimedia capabilities (DVD, Mp3, wireless networking with your PC, etc.), I like the idea even more.

I'm almost certain that if not this generation, then next generation console games will provide support for mice and keyboards - wireless if you want. Sitting on your couch, playing FPSes and RTSes would be fine.

It's all about the games - as long as I get to play what I want how I want, I will stick with the platform. Right now, consoles diverge enough from PCs that I still need one of each. However, they are fast converging, and if it gets to the point where I no longer need to game on my PC, I have no problem with that. Again, as long as I get to play what I want, how I want....

Consoles couldn't beat the PC - so they're joining them. That's what's going on here.

 

[sonoma1993]

with the specs the xbox 360 going to have? how can this system sell for $300. you would think it be around $600

 

[Ben88]

My TV only Supports 480p or 1080i...Will I be able to play in HD since my TV doesnt support 720p?

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Ben88
My TV only Supports 480p or 1080i...Will I be able to play in HD since my TV doesnt support 720p?

1080i is also HD, and I believe every game will support both 720p and 1080i, so you will be all set.

 

[Skotos]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
with the specs the xbox 360 going to have? how can this system sell for $300. you would think it be around $600

because they make most of their profit off the games they publish

so basically they release monster consoles and in a couple years they start making money lol

its funny how despert they are to win over sony

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: Insomniak
It's not about genres, it's about games.

As far as I know, consoles have 0% of the installed user base of Half-Life 2 players, Battlefield series players, and World of Warcraft players.

Trust me, the PC is not going anywhere soon. Every time new consoles launch, everyone proclaims the death of the PC, and lo and behold 12 to 18 months later the PC breaks from equality and into the lead. 24 months later it's firmly walloping the consoles.

Consoles=static
PCs=dynamic

This same thing happened when Xbox/PS2 launched - everyone called the PC dead because the visuals were so amazing - and yet here we are.

I would like to point out that the reason consoles are becoming more appealing is BECAUSE THEY ARE BECOMING PCs. Wireless controllers, USB connectivity, a GUI, internet connection...HELLO?!? Consoles aren't killing the PC, they are JOINING THE CROWD.

I personally am all for that. If Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo want to build a gaming PC that is EXTREMELY powerful and sell it to me for a ridiculously low price, I have no problem with that. Given Xbox 360s multimedia capabilities (DVD, Mp3, wireless networking with your PC, etc.), I like the idea even more.

I'm almost certain that if not this generation, then next generation console games will provide support for mice and keyboards - wireless if you want. Sitting on your couch, playing FPSes and RTSes would be fine.

It's all about the games - as long as I get to play what I want how I want, I will stick with the platform. Right now, consoles diverge enough from PCs that I still need one of each. However, they are fast converging, and if it gets to the point where I no longer need to game on my PC, I have no problem with that. Again, as long as I get to play what I want, how I want....

Consoles couldn't beat the PC - so they're joining them. That's what's going on here.

Yes it is about the games. Of which a far greater number and variety are available on the consoles. You listed 3 games, 2 of which are FPS's the other is a RPG (HL2 is on its way to the XBOX btw). Now if thats all that you play great. But some may not be satisfied choosing from a limited field of titles.

Consoles aren't becoming computers, they've always been computers. Computers built to do one thing and do it well. Its just that never before have they so grossly dwarfed PCs in terms of raw power. And Supposedly the PS3 is going to be even more of a beast than the XBOX 360 if you can imagine that.

I never once said anything about the PC being "dead" or "dying". The PC gaming industry isn't going anywhere. But I certainly wouldn't state that the consoles "couldn't beat" the PC. The consoles don't compete with the PC, they compete with each other. PC game sales are so minuscule by comparison as to not even raise a blip on their radar.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: ZimZum
Yes it is about the games. Of which a far greater number and variety are available on the consoles.

I fail to see a gametype, excluding maybe puzzles and fighting games, that is prevalent on a console and not the PC.

Puzzles are all well and good - as for fighting games, who the hell wants toplay that dreck?

Originally posted by: ZimZum
You listed 3 games, 2 of which are FPS's the other is a RPG (HL2 is on its way to the XBOX btw). Now if thats all that you play great. But some may not be satisfied choosing from a limited field of titles.

Again, I fail to see how the PC is limited. I chose those titles because they huge, widely known franchises.

I could make the same rebuttal if you'd chosen GTA or Halo to represent consoles.

As for HL2 coming to the Xbox, so what? The big console games (again, Halo series/GTA series) all come to PC. The fact that there is crossover just strengthens my point. Remember the days of Unreal Tournament? I think the hottest shooters on consoles were Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Not until Playstation 2 almost a year later did they port it, and even then with severely crippled visuals.

Hell, StarCraft STILL can't be done on consoles.

Originally posted by: ZimZum
Consoles aren't becoming computers, they've always been computers. Computers built to do one thing and do it well. Its just that never before have they so grossly dwarfed PCs in terms of raw power. And Supposedly the PS3 is going to be even more of a beast than the XBOX 360 if you can imagine that.

You didn't read. I said consoles are becoming PCs. The PC is a wholly seperate breed of computer, different from a server in many ways as it is different from a console in many ways. I've never argued that they both weren't computers - as you pointed out, apparently thinking I didn't already know it, they are different types.

But one is becoming more like the other. Adding DVD playback and MP3 playback? A Graphic UI? PCs have had these for years. Someone's playing follow the leader, and it ain't the open box...

Hell, the Xbox360 is basically an HTPC with a wireless controller and a remote. At a great cost. I plan to have mine sitting under my TV the day they arrive in stores.

Originally posted by: ZimZum
I never once said anything about the PC being "dead" or "dying". The PC gaming industry isn't going anywhere. But I certainly wouldn't state that the consoles "couldn't beat" the PC. The consoles don't compete with the PC, they compete with each other. PC game sales are so minuscule by comparison as to not even raise a blip on their radar.

Has nothing to do with sales - has to do qith quality of software titles. Hell, before the early 2000s, consoles hadn't even really seen any decent shooters, yet the PC had been solidly in the genre for 5+ years.

Up until this generation, PCs have steadily led the consoles in both graphic ability AND versatility in gameplay. Now the consoles are catching up - and at the same time becoming more PC like in their construction and capabilities. I refuse to believe that is coincidence. I think the tech-heads saw the writing on the wall and knew what they had to do to make better games. The general populace, not knowing diddly squat, doesn't realize their gaming experience is becoming more PC like, and the same for their consoles...nor do they care. They're having fun for a very good cost, and that's all that matters to them.

 

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Originally posted by: jojo29


You have much hate and negativity inside. Calm down.

i said it was cool to each his own
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I was really halfway joking dude.

 

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how the fark do they fit all that crap in that little thing.. and for only $300?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
it boggles my mind..
The CPU must cost at least $1000... triple core powerpc running at 3.2GHz?!

 

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Originally posted by: sonoma1993
with the specs the xbox 360 going to have? how can this system sell for $300. you would think it be around $600

Fot the last damn time, they don't make money off of the units. They make money off of game licensing.