Official Xbox 360? Thread...

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
20GB PS3 to require wired controllers

Sony has today cleared up the confusion over the differences in specification between the two models of PlayStation 3 - and the cheaper version won't support wireless controllers.

As announced by the company on Monday, two versions of PS3 will be available at launch - one with a 60GB hard drive, and a less pricy model that features a 20GB hard drive. However, what the company didn't mention at the time is that the 20GB machine also lacks a number of key features that are included as standard in the more expensive model.

The 20GB console won't include an HDMI output, which means that it won't be able to deliver high definition pictures. But perhaps more disappointing is that wireless bluetooth controllers won't be supported; instead, gamers will have to make do with retro-style wired-up versions of the increasingly controversial PS3 pad.

The 60GB version of PlayStation 3 - shown here on the left - is identifiable by its chrome lettering

In addition, the lower-end model also lacks WiFi and the slot for Memory Stick Duo cards included in the full-spec PS3.

A Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won't be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version; if that's the PS3 incarnation you opt for, you're permanently stuck with a 20GB memory limit.

Amazingly, Sony big boss man Phil Harrison, in a BBC interview earlier this week, insisted, "What we should be clear about is that the functionality is identical in both machines. There is no difference in what the machine does."

Unfortunately, the actual facts seem to suggest otherwise

Anybody heard anything else of this? This story smells of BS, but at this point, from all we have heard from Sony on the PS3 thus far, I wouldn't doubt it.

This is huge if true, especially on the wireless front. I cannot understand what Sony is thinking. First up, one of my favorite things about the 360 is the built-in wireless. If the "low-end" PS3 package doesn't support wireless, I won't even think about it. The hard drive not being upgradeable isn't too huge of a deal, but is still a big stinker in the grand scheme of things.

Don't get me wrong, I'll still want a PS3, but it doesn't sound like I'll be buying one until the $599 version comes down to around $400, which will be atleast a couple of years, if not more. However, with Sony's track record on Playstation hardware, this isn't entirely a bad thing.

 

[jlmadyson]

Rumor: 360 wireless gaming receiver $20; wheel $130; headset $60; camera $40; Halo and Forza faceplates $20

Thanks to a reliable source from Microsoft, we've learned some important details about the new peripherals announced for the Xbox 360, including pricing and a few Halo faceplate (non)specifics. Check out the leaked info and prices below:

360 wireless gaming receiver (which enables wireless 360 controllers, headsets, and wheels on your PC): $20
Wireless racing wheel: $130
Wireless headset: $60
Xbox Live Vision Camera (with headset, one month of Live Gold, and one arcade -- presumably Xbox Live Arcade -- game): $40
New faceplates for Halo (with the Master Chief on 'em, but not Halo 3 specific) and Forza (no word on connections to the sequel): $20 each
256 MB portable memory unit (MU): no official price yet, but definitely not four times the cost of the older 64MB MU

Besides acknowledging that the PC is "the biggest gaming device of all," MS appears to be setting an agressive price for its most relevant new PC accessory, the wireless gaming receiver (at least in comparison to the outrageously priced 360 wireless networking adapter). Unfortunately, no price was revealed as of yet for the USB-based HD-DVD add-on.

We've speculated in our recent podcasts as to what would happen to the various 360 SKUs when price drops inevitably occur. An interesting theory bandied about by prolific Joystiq Contributor epobirs (on our earlier bump-to-256MB-MU post) was that a $20 price drop for the Core system, coupled with a $20 price drop on the 64MB MU, would finally allow folks to pick up a capable non-Premium bundle for the original $300 Core price point. (Not a bad way to undercut PS2 memory card prices, too.) We hope to get official confirmation on this info in the not-too-distant future.

Stunning, more from Mass Effect

Once again, Bioware ftw

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
20GB PS3 to require wired controllers

Sony has today cleared up the confusion over the differences in specification between the two models of PlayStation 3 - and the cheaper version won't support wireless controllers.

As announced by the company on Monday, two versions of PS3 will be available at launch - one with a 60GB hard drive, and a less pricy model that features a 20GB hard drive. However, what the company didn't mention at the time is that the 20GB machine also lacks a number of key features that are included as standard in the more expensive model.

The 20GB console won't include an HDMI output, which means that it won't be able to deliver high definition pictures. But perhaps more disappointing is that wireless bluetooth controllers won't be supported; instead, gamers will have to make do with retro-style wired-up versions of the increasingly controversial PS3 pad.

The 60GB version of PlayStation 3 - shown here on the left - is identifiable by its chrome lettering

In addition, the lower-end model also lacks WiFi and the slot for Memory Stick Duo cards included in the full-spec PS3.

A Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won't be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version; if that's the PS3 incarnation you opt for, you're permanently stuck with a 20GB memory limit.

Amazingly, Sony big boss man Phil Harrison, in a BBC interview earlier this week, insisted, "What we should be clear about is that the functionality is identical in both machines. There is no difference in what the machine does."

Unfortunately, the actual facts seem to suggest otherwise

Anybody heard anything else of this? This story smells of BS, but at this point, from all we have heard from Sony on the PS3 thus far, I wouldn't doubt it.

This is huge if true, especially on the wireless front. I cannot understand what Sony is thinking. First up, one of my favorite things about the 360 is the built-in wireless. If the "low-end" PS3 package doesn't support wireless, I won't even think about it. The hard drive not being upgradeable isn't too huge of a deal, but is still a big stinker in the grand scheme of things.

Don't get me wrong, I'll still want a PS3, but it doesn't sound like I'll be buying one until the $599 version comes down to around $400, which will be atleast a couple of years, if not more. However, with Sony's track record on Playstation hardware, this isn't entirely a bad thing.

Clearing up some PS3 confusion

Looks to be bs.

 

[Queasy]

Space Ghost interviews Peter Moore at E3

 

[MercenaryForHire]

360 wireless gaming receiver (which enables wireless 360 controllers, headsets, and wheels on your PC): $20

WOOT!

- M4H

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Clearing up some PS3 confusion

Looks to be bs.

Good. :thumbsup: Not that I believe everything when I first read it, I just don't have faith in Sony .

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Rumor: 360 wireless gaming receiver $20; wheel $130; headset $60; camera $40; Halo and Forza faceplates $20

Thanks to a reliable source from Microsoft, we've learned some important details about the new peripherals announced for the Xbox 360, including pricing and a few Halo faceplate (non)specifics. Check out the leaked info and prices below:

360 wireless gaming receiver (which enables wireless 360 controllers, headsets, and wheels on your PC): $20
Wireless racing wheel: $130
Wireless headset: $60
Xbox Live Vision Camera (with headset, one month of Live Gold, and one arcade -- presumably Xbox Live Arcade -- game): $40
New faceplates for Halo (with the Master Chief on 'em, but not Halo 3 specific) and Forza (no word on connections to the sequel): $20 each
256 MB portable memory unit (MU): no official price yet, but definitely not four times the cost of the older 64MB MU

Besides acknowledging that the PC is "the biggest gaming device of all," MS appears to be setting an agressive price for its most relevant new PC accessory, the wireless gaming receiver (at least in comparison to the outrageously priced 360 wireless networking adapter). Unfortunately, no price was revealed as of yet for the USB-based HD-DVD add-on.

We've speculated in our recent podcasts as to what would happen to the various 360 SKUs when price drops inevitably occur. An interesting theory bandied about by prolific Joystiq Contributor epobirs (on our earlier bump-to-256MB-MU post) was that a $20 price drop for the Core system, coupled with a $20 price drop on the 64MB MU, would finally allow folks to pick up a capable non-Premium bundle for the original $300 Core price point. (Not a bad way to undercut PS2 memory card prices, too.) We hope to get official confirmation on this info in the not-too-distant future.

Stunning, more from Mass Effect

Once again, Bioware ftw

Eh, I had those posted 4 days ago on GamersReports

 

[jlmadyson]

Lik-Sang, purveyor of all things accessory, has spilled the beans about the Xbox 360 HDMI Cable. After Microsoft's HD DVD announcement at E3, people were wondering whether HD DVDs would be capable of playing at full resolution on analog component cables, since there was no HDMI cable available for the 360. Well, that particular question hasn't been solved, but we do know that there is an HDMI cable for the 360.

The cable isn't actually available yet, but you can place yourself on the list to be notified when it is. Note that this is an official Microsoft cable, so it should be widely available by the time the HD DVD drive is released.


nicked from gizmondo .

Found this little gem over at TXB. Although I have yet to find the gizmondo link I did find this link over at Lik Sang:

Xbox 360 HDMI Cable (Microsoft)

Hoping this is correct.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Any word on that pic pur?

 

[mundane]

I'm posting here because I'm confused how anyone can comprehend the contents of a 2600+ post thread and make intelligent remarks. It just boggles my mind.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I'm posting here because I'm confused how anyone can comprehend the contents of a 2600+ post thread and make intelligent remarks. It just boggles my mind.

Mainly, a handful of people have pretty much kept up and followed the post since the post first began. Yea, it would be a bit boggling if you just decided to join the mix.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Any word on that pic pur?

nah dude no pic unfortunately

our site would have been the #1 site on the NET for a while if he had snapped it lol ...

 

[Queasy]

Major Nelson takes a look at PS3's online service

As you can imagine, I look at an online gaming service with a pretty close eye. So imagine my surprise when I was reviewing Sony?s briefing from earlier this week where they announced more details of their online service, and noticed a glaring omission. Sony has said that their online service is free but on the slide they showed during the briefing, where they listed all of the free services, I did not see match-making or online play mentioned. Thus, it seems quite likely that Sony's free service is merely the equivalent of the Xbox Live Silver level of membership, which is also free. So, if I?m right then Sony?s cost advantage for their online service is non-existent. What do you guys think?

Here is the video where they show the slide of features that their ?free? online service will have.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I'm posting here because I'm confused how anyone can comprehend the contents of a 2600+ post thread and make intelligent remarks. It just boggles my mind.

Really at this point you only need to read the last two pages to keep up as we mostly talk about the most recent news.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Major Nelson takes a look at PS3's online service

As you can imagine, I look at an online gaming service with a pretty close eye. So imagine my surprise when I was reviewing Sony?s briefing from earlier this week where they announced more details of their online service, and noticed a glaring omission. Sony has said that their online service is free but on the slide they showed during the briefing, where they listed all of the free services, I did not see match-making or online play mentioned. Thus, it seems quite likely that Sony's free service is merely the equivalent of the Xbox Live Silver level of membership, which is also free. So, if I?m right then Sony?s cost advantage for their online service is non-existent. What do you guys think?

Here is the video where they show the slide of features that their ?free? online service will have.

While he brings up some points, I don't think it's fair to completely agree with him simply because he's 100% an MS guy who is saying this. Of course he wants to make Sony look worse than MS heh.

But I do agree that there will not be a "free" online service that is equivalent to XBox Live for the PS3.

 

[remagavon]

Hacked 360s are now booting backups.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Clearing up some PS3 confusion

Looks to be bs.

Good. :thumbsup: Not that I believe everything when I first read it, I just don't have faith in Sony .

Unfortunately due to the prevalence of fanboys, its hard to separate fact from fiction when it comes to consoles anymore. I've seen several cases where some people literally tried to make up false rumors just because they hated a system. Couple this with the fact that so many people have little to no grasp of technology and things quickly get spun into stupidity.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: remagavon
Hacked 360s are now booting backups.

I saw some footage a while back that apparently involved DVD firmware hacking. Unless this is a mod-chip implementation of that, this is nothing particularly amazing.

-Erwos

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: remagavon
Hacked 360s are now booting backups.

I saw some footage a while back that apparently involved DVD firmware hacking. Unless this is a mod-chip implementation of that, this is nothing particularly amazing.

-Erwos

It's now released to the public as has a method of creating backups that will boot with this drive. so yah, it's very amazing to the scene in the sense that now copied games will work on the 360.

however it is strictly for piracy because home brewed apps cannot bootup still because it sitll will not boot up unsigned code.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: remagavon
Hacked 360s are now booting backups.

I saw some footage a while back that apparently involved DVD firmware hacking. Unless this is a mod-chip implementation of that, this is nothing particularly amazing.

-Erwos

It's now released to the public as has a method of creating backups that will boot with this drive. so yah, it's very amazing to the scene in the sense that now copied games will work on the 360.

however it is strictly for piracy because home brewed apps cannot bootup still because it sitll will not boot up unsigned code.

Is this in reference to the one hacker that hacked the firmware? If so, even he said it had pretty limited use. Also I would imagine, MS has released a firmware update since then or are currently working on one if I had to guess.

 

[UpgradeFailure]

So I signed up for Live, but how do you manage the Online status? If I go under Privacy Settings, and online status, I have it blocked. But then if I hit the guide button, and my gamer picture, it says I am online. I can then change my status under "personal settings" to be online, offline, away, etc. But I have to change that every single time. So I am just confused. Why are there two options to show this, and how do I make it a default?

 

[NaOH]

For some reason. I can play Halo 2 online although I did not give MS my credit card number. I also only have the silver membership. Weird.

 

[AdamSnow]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
For some reason. I can play Halo 2 online although I did not give MS my credit card number. I also only have the silver membership. Weird.

Link to the firmware mod that has been mentioned.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
For some reason. I can play Halo 2 online although I did not give MS my credit card number. I also only have the silver membership. Weird.

I'm pretty sure MajorNelson mentioned this being a little easter egg at one point. Is the free E3 week stuff over yet?

-Erwos

 

[Queasy]

Xbox 360 Camera Face Targeting Demo at E3