Official Xbox 360? Thread...

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: frankierx
will you guys play this versus pc games?

DEFINITELY! I can't play PGR3, PDZ, Kameo, etc. on my PC. And even if I could, I still would rather play them on my 360.

Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
What about you guys who bought the actual thing, what're your opinions? How are the games? I am sick of all the *waited in line* stories.

The only downside to my day was that I could only manage to find a Core system. Which, in itself, isn't a big deal for me at all... Pick up a hdd, headset, remote, cables, and I'm all set.

But there isn't a single hdd to be had anywhere in this state! I can't even find one online (for retail.)

I did pick up Kameo, PGR3, PDZ, and I'm thoroughly enjoying all of them.
The dashboard is awesome. Whatever team developed that should develop the next gen Windows GUI.
The controller is the best controller ever invented, period.

All in all, it has completely lived up to the hype.

I had the same problem with only being able to pick up a core and not being able to find any HDs. So far I'm amazed by this (even on a 36in SDTV) and can't even imagine what it would be like on a HDTV. I've considered making my own premium package but that's going to cost me an extra $55 (I don't need a remote) which is an extra game. Hopefully I'll be able to take advantage of BB's generous return policy if I can manage to pick up a premium system soon. Incidentally, the only game I've played so far is PGR3 (I couldn't find any non-limited editions of PDZ and those were the two big games for me).

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Gibson486

It's all about making everyone do impulse buys. If everyone sees it sold out minutes after launch, everyone goes into an impulse buy mode b/c theyhave to get it they will miss out. So, yes, MS did purposely limit the supply. Look at all thhe people who spent over 1k on ebay for it. They spent that much at launch b/c they belive that MS limited teh supply. So, on impulse, they did everythign they could to buy a 360, and if that meant spending three times the amount, then so be it. This is how aggressive marketing works....If MS had such a tight supply, why would they even bother giving one away every 10 minutes?

Seriously, think this through. What does MS have to gain by limiting supplies on an Item that does not have a varying price? So what if places are charging way over MSRP, Microsoft doesn't see a cent of that! If you took the time to read forums you would see that most Gamestops had over 130 people signed up to buy systems. With them only receiving 10-20, what does Microsoft have to gain by Ebayers charging out the a$$?

On top of that, if Microsoft limitsthe system availability, then they don't sell as many games and accessories. In the end, they take a loss on the amount of units SOLD and the amount of accessories and games SOLD.

How does Supply and Demand work in their FAVOR in this instances. This is the prime time of year to sell merchandise! Parents are willing to spend loads of money. Why on earth would you make it hard to get your product!

The real problem here is the fact that the product does not have a varying sales price. It has a set price from any of the retail/online stores they sell to. So the whole jacking up price does not help them at all. That makes supply and demand pointless.

They could sell 600,000 units at $399 (while the vendor gets all the extra overage)...or they could sell over a million at $399. Do the actual math and you'd see that it's stupid to do otherwise.

Anyways, if anyone has actual proof...let us know. Otherwise it's just more BS. Sounds like an article the Inquirer needs to post!

Alright, let's say there are a bunch of parents out there not listening to their kid's pleas to get this console for them for Christmas. All of a sudden they see that these are impossible to find so they jump on eBay and pick one up for $1000 from a hardcore gamer that is willing to wait a month or two for the system since they're just going to get it for themself. That's a whole new market that is difficult to break into. All you have to do is look at Tickle Me Elmo and Beanie Baby's and you'll see how a shortage of supply can cause a HUGE amount of demand.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Gibson486

It's all about making everyone do impulse buys. If everyone sees it sold out minutes after launch, everyone goes into an impulse buy mode b/c theyhave to get it they will miss out. So, yes, MS did purposely limit the supply. Look at all thhe people who spent over 1k on ebay for it. They spent that much at launch b/c they belive that MS limited teh supply. So, on impulse, they did everythign they could to buy a 360, and if that meant spending three times the amount, then so be it. This is how aggressive marketing works....If MS had such a tight supply, why would they even bother giving one away every 10 minutes?

Seriously, think this through. What does MS have to gain by limiting supplies on an Item that does not have a varying price? So what if places are charging way over MSRP, Microsoft doesn't see a cent of that! If you took the time to read forums you would see that most Gamestops had over 130 people signed up to buy systems. With them only receiving 10-20, what does Microsoft have to gain by Ebayers charging out the a$$?

On top of that, if Microsoft limitsthe system availability, then they don't sell as many games and accessories. In the end, they take a loss on the amount of units SOLD and the amount of accessories and games SOLD.

How does Supply and Demand work in their FAVOR in this instances. This is the prime time of year to sell merchandise! Parents are willing to spend loads of money. Why on earth would you make it hard to get your product!

The real problem here is the fact that the product does not have a varying sales price. It has a set price from any of the retail/online stores they sell to. So the whole jacking up price does not help them at all. That makes supply and demand pointless.

They could sell 600,000 units at $399 (while the vendor gets all the extra overage)...or they could sell over a million at $399. Do the actual math and you'd see that it's stupid to do otherwise.

Anyways, if anyone has actual proof...let us know. Otherwise it's just more BS. Sounds like an article the Inquirer needs to post!

LikeLinus,

If you read up on supply and demand you will understand.

To put it another way, all the talk today was "you got an xbox? How, my son wants one."

 

[mzkhadir]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Gibson486

It's all about making everyone do impulse buys. If everyone sees it sold out minutes after launch, everyone goes into an impulse buy mode b/c theyhave to get it they will miss out. So, yes, MS did purposely limit the supply. Look at all thhe people who spent over 1k on ebay for it. They spent that much at launch b/c they belive that MS limited teh supply. So, on impulse, they did everythign they could to buy a 360, and if that meant spending three times the amount, then so be it. This is how aggressive marketing works....If MS had such a tight supply, why would they even bother giving one away every 10 minutes?

Seriously, think this through. What does MS have to gain by limiting supplies on an Item that does not have a varying price? So what if places are charging way over MSRP, Microsoft doesn't see a cent of that! If you took the time to read forums you would see that most Gamestops had over 130 people signed up to buy systems. With them only receiving 10-20, what does Microsoft have to gain by Ebayers charging out the a$$?

On top of that, if Microsoft limitsthe system availability, then they don't sell as many games and accessories. In the end, they take a loss on the amount of units SOLD and the amount of accessories and games SOLD.

How does Supply and Demand work in their FAVOR in this instances. This is the prime time of year to sell merchandise! Parents are willing to spend loads of money. Why on earth would you make it hard to get your product!

The real problem here is the fact that the product does not have a varying sales price. It has a set price from any of the retail/online stores they sell to. So the whole jacking up price does not help them at all. That makes supply and demand pointless.

They could sell 600,000 units at $399 (while the vendor gets all the extra overage)...or they could sell over a million at $399. Do the actual math and you'd see that it's stupid to do otherwise.

Anyways, if anyone has actual proof...let us know. Otherwise it's just more BS. Sounds like an article the Inquirer needs to post!

LikeLinus,

If you read up on supply and demand you will understand.

To put it another way, all the talk today was "you got an xbox? How, my son wants one."

I think Sony will do the same. Short Supply High Demand.

 

[Staples]

Picture of my 360

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Gibson486

It's all about making everyone do impulse buys. If everyone sees it sold out minutes after launch, everyone goes into an impulse buy mode b/c theyhave to get it they will miss out. So, yes, MS did purposely limit the supply. Look at all thhe people who spent over 1k on ebay for it. They spent that much at launch b/c they belive that MS limited teh supply. So, on impulse, they did everythign they could to buy a 360, and if that meant spending three times the amount, then so be it. This is how aggressive marketing works....If MS had such a tight supply, why would they even bother giving one away every 10 minutes?

Seriously, think this through. What does MS have to gain by limiting supplies on an Item that does not have a varying price? So what if places are charging way over MSRP, Microsoft doesn't see a cent of that! If you took the time to read forums you would see that most Gamestops had over 130 people signed up to buy systems. With them only receiving 10-20, what does Microsoft have to gain by Ebayers charging out the a$$?

On top of that, if Microsoft limitsthe system availability, then they don't sell as many games and accessories. In the end, they take a loss on the amount of units SOLD and the amount of accessories and games SOLD.

How does Supply and Demand work in their FAVOR in this instances. This is the prime time of year to sell merchandise! Parents are willing to spend loads of money. Why on earth would you make it hard to get your product!

The real problem here is the fact that the product does not have a varying sales price. It has a set price from any of the retail/online stores they sell to. So the whole jacking up price does not help them at all. That makes supply and demand pointless.

They could sell 600,000 units at $399 (while the vendor gets all the extra overage)...or they could sell over a million at $399. Do the actual math and you'd see that it's stupid to do otherwise.

Anyways, if anyone has actual proof...let us know. Otherwise it's just more BS. Sounds like an article the Inquirer needs to post!

LikeLinus,

If you read up on supply and demand you will understand.

To put it another way, all the talk today was "you got an xbox? How, my son wants one."

I did? It would seem the only advantage for the actual manufacture is if there is a price that changes on demand. Their price stays constant to the end retail.

I think kids would be talking about it regardless of the demand. It's the kids or adults who want the item. They have to WANT it and ask for it. A parent isn't going to say "oh some parent said they got one for their kid..i need to go spend 400$, no matter what my kid wants!".

 

[spidey07]

mzkhadir,

Of course they will.

And hopefully I will be able to cash in on it.

 

[PrayForDeath]

Originally posted by: BornStar18

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: frankierx
will you guys play this versus pc games?

DEFINITELY! I can't play PGR3, PDZ, Kameo, etc. on my PC. And even if I could, I still would rather play them on my 360.

Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
What about you guys who bought the actual thing, what're your opinions? How are the games? I am sick of all the *waited in line* stories.

The only downside to my day was that I could only manage to find a Core system. Which, in itself, isn't a big deal for me at all... Pick up a hdd, headset, remote, cables, and I'm all set.

But there isn't a single hdd to be had anywhere in this state! I can't even find one online (for retail.)

I did pick up Kameo, PGR3, PDZ, and I'm thoroughly enjoying all of them.
The dashboard is awesome. Whatever team developed that should develop the next gen Windows GUI.
The controller is the best controller ever invented, period.

All in all, it has completely lived up to the hype.

I had the same problem with only being able to pick up a core and not being able to find any HDs. So far I'm amazed by this (even on a 36in SDTV) and can't even imagine what it would be like on a HDTV. I've considered making my own premium package but that's going to cost me an extra $55 (I don't need a remote) which is an extra game. Hopefully I'll be able to take advantage of BB's generous return policy if I can manage to pick up a premium system soon. Incidentally, the only game I've played so far is PGR3 (I couldn't find any non-limited editions of PDZ and those were the two big games for me).

What's the thing with the limited editions of PDZ? Are they like incomplete versions (demos)?

I am dying to play PGR3!! How is it? I was blown away with the videos and screenshots.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
What's the thing with the limited editions of PDZ? Are they like incomplete versions (demos)?

I am dying to play PGR3!! How is it? I was blown away with the videos and screenshots.

First off, PGR3 is awesome. If you like the PGR series, this one is the best of the best.


The PDZ Limited Edition includes:

DVD Disc One:
Full version of the game

Bonus DVD Disc Two:
The Art of Perfect Dark Zero video feature
Kepi & Kat music track from the game
Perfect Dark Zero Gamer Tiles to customize your identity on Xbox Live
Perfect Dark Zero Heads-Up display (HUD) UI Skin to customize your Xbox 360 experience.
The first chapter from the new novel, Perfect Dark:Initial Vector

Plus:
Perfect Dark Zero special edition comic booklet, Hong Kong Sunrise
A collectible Perfect Dark Zero Glyph Card
Game Manual


LikeLinus... Anytime you can generate buzz about a product, you're ahead of the game. If you can get the kind of buzz that MS has had in the last day or two, that's hitting the mother load.

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
What's the thing with the limited editions of PDZ? Are they like incomplete versions (demos)?

I am dying to play PGR3!! How is it? I was blown away with the videos and screenshots.

First off, PGR3 is awesome. If you like the PGR series, this one is the best of the best.


The PDZ Limited Edition includes:

DVD Disc One:
Full version of the game

Bonus DVD Disc Two:
The Art of Perfect Dark Zero video feature
Kepi & Kat music track from the game
Perfect Dark Zero Gamer Tiles to customize your identity on Xbox Live
Perfect Dark Zero Heads-Up display (HUD) UI Skin to customize your Xbox 360 experience.
The first chapter from the new novel, Perfect Dark:Initial Vector

Plus:
Perfect Dark Zero special edition comic booklet, Hong Kong Sunrise
A collectible Perfect Dark Zero Glyph Card
Game Manual


LikeLinus... Anytime you can generate buzz about a product, you're ahead of the game. If you can get the kind of buzz that MS has had in the last day or two, that's hitting the mother load.

Excellent. I was curious what was different with PDZ LE and that answers it. The funny thing is that with the coupons BB is handing out, I can get the LE version for the price of the normal edition. That said, I'd rather get the normal edition for $40.

I also agree with Wingznut; PGR3 is absolutely amazing. You're guaranteed to enjoy it.

 

[PrayForDeath]

First off, PGR3 is awesome. If you like the PGR series, this one is the best of the best.

I also agree with Wingznut; PGR3 is absolutely amazing. You're guaranteed to enjoy it.

Damn, I can't resist. But I am not planning to buy an X360 since am a college student (already paid for a PC). I guess I'll just check it out at my cousin's.

 

[MazerRackham]

I don't want to get one of these until I get a HD set.

There's no way you can rig it up to DVI is there??

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Gibson486

It's all about making everyone do impulse buys. If everyone sees it sold out minutes after launch, everyone goes into an impulse buy mode b/c theyhave to get it they will miss out. So, yes, MS did purposely limit the supply. Look at all thhe people who spent over 1k on ebay for it. They spent that much at launch b/c they belive that MS limited teh supply. So, on impulse, they did everythign they could to buy a 360, and if that meant spending three times the amount, then so be it. This is how aggressive marketing works....If MS had such a tight supply, why would they even bother giving one away every 10 minutes?

Seriously, think this through. What does MS have to gain by limiting supplies on an Item that does not have a varying price? So what if places are charging way over MSRP, Microsoft doesn't see a cent of that! If you took the time to read forums you would see that most Gamestops had over 130 people signed up to buy systems. With them only receiving 10-20, what does Microsoft have to gain by Ebayers charging out the a$$?

On top of that, if Microsoft limitsthe system availability, then they don't sell as many games and accessories. In the end, they take a loss on the amount of units SOLD and the amount of accessories and games SOLD.

How does Supply and Demand work in their FAVOR in this instances. This is the prime time of year to sell merchandise! Parents are willing to spend loads of money. Why on earth would you make it hard to get your product!

The real problem here is the fact that the product does not have a varying sales price. It has a set price from any of the retail/online stores they sell to. So the whole jacking up price does not help them at all. That makes supply and demand pointless.

They could sell 600,000 units at $399 (while the vendor gets all the extra overage)...or they could sell over a million at $399. Do the actual math and you'd see that it's stupid to do otherwise.

Anyways, if anyone has actual proof...let us know. Otherwise it's just more BS. Sounds like an article the Inquirer needs to post!

yup, its in their interest to sell as many as possible on day one, not spread it out. but building that much excess production capacity for a one time deal is a money loser..its impractical.

 

[n7]

I am dumbfounded at what these are selling on eBay for! :Q

I am so kicking myself hard now, since i coulda easily made hundreds, maybe over a thousand if i'd picked up a few from work :Q

 

[n7]

EBay - sold for $12,100 :shocked:

OMFG! :Q

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: n7
EBay - sold for $12,100 :shocked:

OMFG! :Q

eh its filled with suspicous looking shill bids.

 

[lrad50]

Originally posted by: n7
EBay - sold for $12,100 :shocked:

OMFG! :Q

I am so stupid for not picking one up... I had someone from work ask if i wanted one....

 

[lrad50]

wait nm, i bet they added a 0

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: lrad50
wait nm, i bet they added a 0

Um no one payed that much. It was just someone fvcking around. Look at the bid history and the amount of feedback he has. Fool.

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I stopped into target today, they said they sold out today but would have more tomorrow - FYI

Wow, thanks for the tip. I was able to get a premium system today at 8:30. The Target here got in 5 they weren't expecting (3 premium, 2 core) and I got the last premium.

 

[CHfan4ever]

Ok problems i got with my machine.You can experience this.Maybe will be ok , maybe not.

Play any game for over an hour.Insert another game after that hour.Will have diffficulty to load your games.Yesterday night i was having problems loading my 2 games, PGR3 and Condemned.Tough at the beginning it was a problems with the disk.Because i was having a warning in 10 languages "You disk cannot be reconnise my your xbox360"..something like that.

It is not, i think the machine is heating too much( even with the power supply at the outside.)I try back this morning my machine, and was loading succefully any disk i was inserting.

So if you have any problems so far, stop playing for an hour, to let your system cool down a bit.THANK GOD i took the extended warranty because im going to exchange my machine when it become available again in a few weeks. If you DID NOT took the extended warranty when you purchase your system,go get it right away at your retailer where you purchase your system if they offer it.You have 14 days to go back and ask to take back the warranty.

Take my advice if you want or dont take it, but if you dont you might be piss off one day of having spend over $500 on a machine who broke in your face.

 

[LikeLinus]

You realize theres a chance you just got a bad machine?

Personally if you are having problems, I would send it back and get another one.

 

[RagingBITCH]

My Gamestop called me yesterday, despite the fact that 2 weeks ago guaranteed me my 360 Premium, they said they didn't have a premium for me yesterday. :| Said I was #8 in the store to preorder, and the 8th premium was damaged. (Apparently the other 7 people went to the store before me) So they held a core system, and gave me a game half off. Blah. I sure as hell don't want the core system. Bought it anyway, figure I'll ebay it and wait a few months to buy my premium.

 

[TheShiz]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
My Gamestop called me yesterday, despite the fact that 2 weeks ago guaranteed me my 360 Premium, they said they didn't have a premium for me yesterday. :| Said I was #8 in the store to preorder, and the 8th premium was damaged. (Apparently the other 7 people went to the store before me) So they held a core system, and gave me a game half off. Blah. I sure as hell don't want the core system. Bought it anyway, figure I'll ebay it and wait a few months to buy my premium.

with the profit you can buy a premium and a few games. patience pays off.

 

[Ramma2]

I got mine, and I can say that this will probably be the end of my PC gaming career. I've been a PC gamer since the 386 days and this is it. Gaming on a console is now easier, cheaper, and more fun for me.

The 360 is amazing. The graphics are incredible, and the sound is astounding. They really did a great job using a 5.1 system this time around. I picked up Kameo, PGR3 and PDZ, and all 3 are great games.