Officially joined Crossfit gym... owwww....

[Zivic]

Bodybuilder =/= someone who barbell trains. I think you've tricked meathead Zivic into arguing that people who weight train but don't use crossfit = bodybuilders, that is not true. Barbell training can easily be combined with cardiovascular training to be perfectly adequate at any real world situation.

I consider what I do as lifting/weight training. Others would look at me and say I am a bodybuilder.... I definitely don't consider myself a bodybuilder, but lately aesthetics have become more of a goal than the amount of weight I am pushing/pulling.

I am a farmer. I "crossfit" all day... lift a few thousand 50 # boxes of corn a day, lay 30' sections of irrigation pipe for a couple miles, drag 6" hose around the field. lifting, pulling, and doing all sorts of other activities throughout the day. I don't consider it a workout. I go to the gym to get my workouts in

 

[momeNt]

i like watching crossfit because most of the women wear tight yoga pants.
For me .. end goal is strength and conditioning. Can i do that without CrossFit, yes. We all have goals and the different means to get there but you'll never see me in a douchey shirt saying my warmup is better than your workout.

My take on CF:
* CrossFit HeadQuarters = douchebags, posting pictures and videos of some idiotic crap. Aka holding a barbell + weight, on 1 leg on a kettlebell .. WTF or saying outrageous claims
* A portion of CF people who drink the kool-aid and act like douches .. aka shirt slogans, telling others their stuff/training is weak, act like their sh&* doesn't stink
* A portion of CF people who are completely opposite of the above
* CF is exploding with new gyms / boxes and new trainers. With expanded growth comes shitty trainers .. that's dangerous
* One of the good things CF HQ does right .. it doesn't tell gym owners how to program their workouts. For better or worse, this leads to some gyms better than others and gives people an option to see if they'd like to visit a gym that's more cardio-centric, strength-centric, long 20-30 minute condition, short 10 minute condition workouts .. etc

At my gym, there's always a strength portion> Front or Back Squats, Pressing (military, push press, jerk press), bench press, snatches, clean and jerks, deadlift. Obviously, we can't hit all the lifts through the week but it's broken down to, Squat on Mondays, some Press on Tuesday, CJ/Snatch on Wednesday, Deadlift/CJ/Snatch on Friday.

Our gym has a Starting Strength Certified Coach that runs classes that people can go through to work on strength.

Our gym, although a separate cost, an Olympic and Powerlifting gym. In fact, there's 2 sessions that's women only, that work strictly on strength routines.

Pendlay has a few thoughts on CrossFit
http://glennpendlay.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/we-will-kill-you/
http://www.pendlayforum.com/showpost.php?p=29453&postcount=36

Rippetoe was on board with CF but no one really knows why he removed himself but the popular theory is ... CF HQ are douchebags
Rippetoe on a Reddit AMA
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/com..._rippetoe_author_of_starting_strength/c35il7s


For balance .. there are former CF owners/trainers who grew to hate CF or being dropped
http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.com/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html
http://whole9life.com/2010/03/parting-ways-with-crossfit/

Rippetoe on his forum Q&A and this AMA is goddamn amazing.

I tried CrossFit for 2 years. It exacerbated my injuries, produced some significant health problems, forced me to rationalize the illogic of the program in public, and set my strength back about 5 years. I'm just now recovering. So I'll be more careful in the future about trying things that actually make no fucking sense.

 

[Blackjack200]

I love Rippetoe but he can be a weird dude sometimes. He sticks with a program that is injuring him and killing his strength for two years??

 

[Malfeas]

Crossfit football is a much better version of the whole crossfit experience. The programming isn't generated by a random number generator and a "pull exercises blindly from a hat" approach. If you are interested in xfit I would see if a nearby box uses this method or join a regular gym/buy your own equipment and follow it on your own.

 

[EvilYoda]

Nice, haven't seen a good CF argument thread in a while. Takes me back.

Almost reads like the P&N of H&F!