OMG Intel 45nm........

[Amaroque]

Why would Intel care if we (enthuiasts) need a new board for a 45nm CPU? Probably ~99% of their sales are OEM machines anyway. OEM's don't care about throwing a new board revision into a brand new machine.

This is a fact: If you buy a new OEM machine, it will come with the correct supporting hardware...

That sucks for people like us, but it's the cold hard truth.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: 4Linux

Originally posted by: myocardia

You're right, they shouldn't still be making cheap, 4-layer motherboards.

hmmm..... That statement shows ignorance. I will try to educate:

3 posts and already trying to sass and be an ahole to a respected member of this forum?

What Myocardia said is absolutely correct...no one should be making cheap 4-layer boards.

No one should make cheap 6 layer boards either...but that is not what Myo was saying.

No one should assume ALL 4-layer boards are made cheaply, nor should anyone assume that ALL 6-layer boards are made with quality...but again that is NOT what Myo said at all.

Try and see what is posted, not read what you want to see...what Myo wrote is true - no one should be making cheap 4-layer boards...and learn to be a little more humble and respectful in light of the possibility that maybe it is you who are interpretting the posted statements incorrectly...and you might find folks will warm right up to you.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Amaroque
Why would Intel care if we (enthuiasts) need a new board for a 45nm CPU? Probably ~99% of their sales are OEM machines anyway. OEM's don't care about throwing a new board revision into a brand new machine.

This is a fact: If you buy a new OEM machine, it will come with the correct supporting hardware...

That sucks for people like us, but it's the cold hard truth.

Amen, bro.

Welcome to Stimulated Demand by Manufactured Obsolescence.

 

[4Linux]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

3 posts and already trying to sass and be an ahole to a respected member of this forum?

This is what I meant by "try" to educate.

I'm really an 8 year old home from school, this is my first ever forum.

Thanks for the heads up though.



Time for you to move on and find another forum. You are history here.
AnandTech Moderator

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: 4Linux

Originally posted by: Idontcare

3 posts and already trying to sass and be an ahole to a respected member of this forum?

This is what I meant by "try" to educate.

I'm really an 8 year old home from school, this is my first ever forum.

Thanks for the heads up though.

Hmm... reminds me of someone we know too well.

 

[amenx]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
Hmm... reminds me of someone we know too well.

Yep, same thing crossed my mind. Even uses the same argument as Edz:

"This whole thing stinks. According to the article at xbit labs Linkey
most or all of the non-38 chipset boards don't work with 45nM CPU/s. That is a big deal but nothing is being said..WHATS UP.

There is something just not right there."

 

[4Linux]

Originally posted by: taltamir
Or maybe intel just has a nice positive PR reason to not releasing anything new while there is absolutely no competition from AMD.
Or maybe not, maybe intel really cares about the people who bought a crappy mobo and wants to delay the product to make sure it works with those.

This brings up another question:

When was the last time Intel changed a manufacturing process because of prior mb's incompatibilities?
It just doesn?t make any sense.

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: Amaroque
Probably ~99% of their sales are OEM machines anyway.

I think OEM is only about 90% of the market, maybe less.

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom

Originally posted by: Amaroque
Probably ~99% of their sales are OEM machines anyway.

I think OEM is only about 90% of the market, maybe less.

That's why I said "Probably ~99%" I don't have any hard facts anymore, but I know that 10% of the population doesn't build their own computers.

Also, out of the of people that do build their own machines, a good percentage of them keep their origional build for a few years.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: amenx

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
Hmm... reminds me of someone we know too well.

Yep, same thing crossed my mind. Even uses the same argument as Edz:[/i]

If you look a couple of posts above yours, it would appear that AM has shown him the door (permanently maybe?). The guy is awfully persistent though...who knows if we've seen the last of him.

That whole bit about the 45 nm CPUs not working on X38s reminded me of some trolling that happened in the TGDaily and THG forums a few weeks ago. The person persisted in posting FUD even after being called out on it numerous times.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: 4Linux

Originally posted by: taltamir
Or maybe intel just has a nice positive PR reason to not releasing anything new while there is absolutely no competition from AMD.
Or maybe not, maybe intel really cares about the people who bought a crappy mobo and wants to delay the product to make sure it works with those.

This brings up another question:

When was the last time Intel changed a manufacturing process because of prior mb's incompatibilities?
It just doesn?t make any sense.

From what I'm gathering, I think they're fixing the design of the 45nm chips and not the 45nm process technology.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Amaroque
Why would Intel care if we (enthuiasts) need a new board for a 45nm CPU? Probably ~99% of their sales are OEM machines anyway. OEM's don't care about throwing a new board revision into a brand new machine.

This is a fact: If you buy a new OEM machine, it will come with the correct supporting hardware...

That sucks for people like us, but it's the cold hard truth.

I believe there is some proof in existance supporting your statement if one considers how Intel chose to handle (or didn't bother too as it were) the transition from B3 to G0 Q6600's.

If Intel believed that the enthusiast channel was where the money was at then the releasing Q6600 G0's into the market while B3 inventory still existed would have been a mistake they would have avoided by ensuring the B3's stock dwindled before making G0's available.

Intel obviously didn't give a dam about massaging the market transition from B3's to G0's.

Given the existing evidence that Intel did not use the enthusiast market's response as a guide to their decisions on how and when to release of non-extreme "Q6600/6700" chips...it seems silly to assume or expect the decision makers to use the enthusiasts market's response now as a guide to when/how/why they release the non-extreme 45nm quads.