Opinion Piece on Social Policies

[Creig]

You've been a member here a long time. Show me your posts defending Wreckage, who was constantly accused of being an Nvidia shill. Or Happy Medium, countless others. Where are you Railven? You know what? I'll leave you to whatever it is you're doing. /peace.

You really want to go down that path, Keys? So where was YOUR outrage against Rollo when he was proven to be an AEG shill? Did you utter one single word publicly against him? No.

 

[busydude]

Cool. This thread basically died when outrage came up with his arguments. Wonder why there are no answers. :hmm:.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Deflect and change talking points, confuse and forget.

Nice job AMD!

 

[BoFox]

You really want to go down that path, Keys? So where was YOUR outrage against Rollo when he was proven to be an AEG shill? Did you utter one single word publicly against him? No.

Well, Keys didn't defend him, did he? Was it his responsibility to publicly speak up against Rollo?

There was peace for a few days.. and there should be.

 

[KingFatty]

What about if the posting guidelines address bad posting behavior, without caring whether someone is a shill or robot or alien etc.?

I mean, if someone posts a terribly biased opinion with outright lies, shouldn't that be what the focus is on? Who cares where they came from?

Hate the sin, not the sinner?

I for one welcome aliens and robots to post on this board, and if their posts become biased and terrible, then we ban that post. But if the aliens are very eloquent and their posts add value, i don't care if they are aliens.

Same with paid shills. If they are doing critical thinking/analysis and making well-thought out posts, I don't care who pays their paycheck.

Can't we ban the act of astroturfing, but allow astroturf salesmen so long as they aren't doing the act?

 

[SickBeast]

So it looks like apoppin is going to step it up and involve the Consumerist and send out his article to all the tech websites.

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=24247&start=560

It will be interesting to see how AMD reacts to all of this. I'm curious to see how it all pans out.

 

[chimaxi83]

Probably nowhere, like how it has (or hasn't?) now.

 

[SickBeast]

Probably nowhere, like how it has (or hasn't?) now.

Yep. It's too bad. I like apoppin and I've been hoping to see his website grow, but really IMO he needs to build a better rapport with AMD. I realize that this viral stuff is no good, but I keep telling him to let other people take up that fight with them so that he can receive hardware review samples from them. *shrug*

 

[blackened23]

That guy is such an idiot. No proof and he still doesn't give up. *grabs popcorn.

I do have it figured out though. Making sensationalist stories like this is the only way he can get hits, so that's the only reason he's doing it. Obviously at this point he's just trolling for hits.....I found his post of how AMD tried to reach out to him, and then he kept trolling their PR guy over the phone about this very amusing. Obviously he doesn't want to review for AMD. He just wants to troll and get hits from making sensational stories. Just glance at his forum. Its the same 5 people posting. (no offense at you) You don't see other hardware review website editors engaging in this type of nonsense, its completely unprofessional in addition to him not having proof.

What happened to:

Anandtech harboring AMD shills? Thats what Apoppin claimed?
AMD encouraging employees to post to forums? Wait, their social media policy claims otherwise.
All the "proof" he has of AMD being in cahoots with the mods here? Oh wait, that was debunked too.

 

[SickBeast]

LOL! That guy is such an idiot. No proof and he still doesn't give up. *grabs popcorn.

I do have it figured out though. Making sensationalist stories like this is the only way he can get hits, so that's the only reason he's doing it. Obviously at this point he's just trolling for hits.....I found his post of how AMD tried to reach out to him, and then he kept trolling their PR guy over the phone about this very amusing. Obviously he doesn't want to review for AMD. He just wants to troll, be an asshat, and get hits from making sensational stories.

He's actually one of the nicest and most knowledgeable people I've met on here. You should watch how you talk about people.

 

[blackened23]

He's actually one of the nicest and most knowledgeable people I've met on here. You should watch how you talk about people.

Its hard to respect him after the untrue accusations he has made to me and several others like chimax, nigel, etc, about 20 of us. And he also accused the mods here of harboring shills. He may be knowledgable but its hard to say anything kind about someone who has mentioned such things.

If he had an issue with AMD he could have gone about it completely differently without unfound accuasations and still hold a sliver of respect. You know as well as me that he's called a TON of people shills just on the basis of posting something positive about AMD and that is ridiculous.

 

[SickBeast]

Its hard to respect him after the untrue accusations he has made to me and several others like chimax, nigel, etc, about 20 of us. And he also accused the mods here of harboring shills. He may be knowledgable but its hard to say anything kind about someone who has mentioned such things.

I didn't realize that he called anyone out directly.

With Nigel he apparently was trying to turn ABT into an AMD shill/flog site; I don't know what evidence he has but he has no reason to make that up IMO.

 

[Outrage]

He's actually one of the nicest and most knowledgeable people I've met on here. You should watch how you talk about people.

He sure knew exactly what nvidias media policy was at the time he wrote that factually incorrect blog post of his. very well informed..... You have to wonder why he did't do any research about nvidia's policy. :whiste:

 

[Zanovar]

I didn't realize that he called anyone out directly.

With Nigel he apparently was trying to turn ABT into an AMD shill/flog site; I don't know what evidence he has but he has no reason to make that up IMO.

Cmon sickbeast,he was calling peeps out left right center,selective memory much?

 

[SickBeast]

Cmon sickbeast,he was calling peeps out left right center,selective memory much?

Who did he call out?

I honestly don't remember.

 

[chimaxi83]

He summed it up pretty nicely himself.

Bulldozer was a dud, compared to the hype, right? We all pretty much agree?

Apoppin used Bulldozer to respond on his site, to something I said here, which was:

So much for all the proof on shill identities, thought he was going to blow this place wide open lol. All this build up for nada. Fail.

To which Apoppin responded with:

this is the problem with AMD fans. They were also expecting the Second Coming and got Bulldozer

- all we intended to do was to get this information to the right people inside AMD

source

See, he admits that we all were expecting what he hyped it up to be, but he delivered a failure and then changed his tune, saying all he wanted to do was "get this information to the right people inside AMD". Funny twist of events. GG Apoppin, GG.

 

[SickBeast]

I'm surprised you guys aren't more supportive of someone trying to rid the forums of the viral shills.

apoppin is saying that AMD's marketing department tried to turn alienbabeltech into an AMD flog site.

 

[Zanovar]

I'm surprised you guys aren't more supportive of someone trying to rid the forums of the viral shills.

apoppin is saying that AMD's marketing department tried to turn alienbabeltech into an AMD flog site.

you are so naive sb,you deserve a cuddle.

 

[DooKey]

Me thinks some in this thread are too defensive.........

AMD is no different than Nvidia, they are giving hardware away to people that get on tech sites and shill. If I was them that's what I would do to. I don't blame them or Nvidia for doing it. $$$$$ make the world go round.

 

[SickBeast]

you are so naive sb,you deserve a cuddle.

So what are you saying is not true?

 

[Zanovar]

So what are you saying is not true?

listen mate,im out.and not gonna comment in this thread anymore.good luck.

 

[Phynaz]

So it looks like apoppin is going to step it up and involve the Consumerist and send out his article to all the tech websites.

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=24247&start=560

It will be interesting to see how AMD reacts to all of this. I'm curious to see how it all pans out.

AMD already reacted. They said give us names. He didn't, so they are ignoring him.

Just as it should be.

 

[SolMiester]

Its hard to respect him after the untrue accusations he has made to me and several others like chimax, nigel, etc, about 20 of us. And he also accused the mods here of harboring shills. He may be knowledgable but its hard to say anything kind about someone who has mentioned such things.

If he had an issue with AMD he could have gone about it completely differently without unfound accuasations and still hold a sliver of respect. You know as well as me that he's called a TON of people shills just on the basis of posting something positive about AMD and that is ridiculous.

This won't be resolved over night, but to state his claims are unfounded is premature...
And to state his claims are to gather page hits is just immature...we know how slow AMD s fixing drivers, I can't see why their PR team would be any faster...

 

[Outrage]

I'm surprised you guys aren't more supportive of someone trying to rid the forums of the viral shills.

Just point them out and I'm sure the admins here will handle it.

apoppin is saying that AMD's marketing department tried to turn alienbabeltech into an AMD flog site.

And nvidia had a guy on there payroll that almost killed this forum. They actually had shills posting here.

If you base your assumptions on what happend a long time ago, you should get abt to do some research on how nvidia follows there own social media policy, dont just single out one company based on what happend in the past.

 

[3DVagabond]

That guy is such an idiot. No proof and he still doesn't give up. *grabs popcorn.

I do have it figured out though. Making sensationalist stories like this is the only way he can get hits, so that's the only reason he's doing it. Obviously at this point he's just trolling for hits.....I found his post of how AMD tried to reach out to him, and then he kept trolling their PR guy over the phone about this very amusing. Obviously he doesn't want to review for AMD. He just wants to troll and get hits from making sensational stories. Just glance at his forum. Its the same 5 people posting. (no offense at you) You don't see other hardware review website editors engaging in this type of nonsense, its completely unprofessional in addition to him not having proof.

What happened to:

Anandtech harboring AMD shills? Thats what Apoppin claimed?
AMD encouraging employees to post to forums? Wait, their social media policy claims otherwise.
All the "proof" he has of AMD being in cahoots with the mods here? Oh wait, that was debunked too.

He's just a kid throwing a tantrum. He thinks if he screams and stomps his feet enough AMD will start sending him stuff to shut him up. I wish he'd try holding his breath.