Opinions on new Radiator I recieved.

[WilliamM2]

Shipping damage would get a free replacement shipping both ways, while a return doesn't.

If I noticed it before I started the work and had days to spare, I'd probably exchange it. If it was in the middle of the task, I'd probably keep it. Not trying to be vague, just on the edge for me like it appears it is for you.

How long did the exchange take? They say 10-14 days. And there is the risk of it being worse on the next one.

I'm not really in the middle of the task. I removed a snorkel, the hood latch, and the fans and wiring. About 30 minutes of work normally, but one of the latch bolts was stuck, so it took well over an hour. Car has been sitting in that state since last Wednesday. I haven't needed it, so no point in re-assembling.

I am trying to beat the snow, which will be here to stay in a week or two. Hard to see a leak if it's always wet!

 

[Zorba]

How long did the exchange take? They say 10-14 days. And there is the risk of it being worse on the next one.

I'm not really in the middle of the task. I removed a snorkel, the hood latch, and the fans and wiring. About 30 minutes of work normally, but one of the latch bolts was stuck, so it took well over an hour. Car has been sitting in that state since last Wednesday. I haven't needed it, so no point in re-assembling.

I am trying to beat the snow, which will be here to stay in a week or two. Hard to see a leak if it's always wet!

I cross shipped it, ordered the new part then sent back the defective one. So I had to pay for a second one until I got the refund on the first.

 

[WilliamM2]

I cross shipped it, ordered the new part then sent back the defective one. So I had to pay for a second one until I got the refund on the first.

Thanks, I requested the return yesterday, and ordered a Koyorad. I'm hoping it's packed better than the denso. It's packed so poorly, every protrusion is against the box, four little pieces of foam. The filler neck is actually resting on the bottom of the box.



Now you see why I was afraid the next one would be even worse. The new one should be here on Friday. Hopefully this is all done Saturday.

 

[Zorba]

Thanks, I requested the return yesterday, and ordered a Koyorad. I'm hoping it's packed better than the denso. It's packed so poorly, every protrusion is against the box, four little pieces of foam. The filler neck is actually resting on the bottom of the box.

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Now you see why I was afraid the next one would be even worse. The new one should be here on Friday. Hopefully this is all done Saturday.

Man, I'd really worry about those transmission line nipples, I think it's pretty easy to break the seal around them. Boxing like this is probably good enough when they are shipped palletized, but not for UPS delivery.

 

[Meghan54]

Thanks, I requested the return yesterday, and ordered a Koyorad. I'm hoping it's packed better than the denso. It's packed so poorly, every protrusion is against the box, four little pieces of foam. The filler neck is actually resting on the bottom of the box.

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Now you see why I was afraid the next one would be even worse. The new one should be here on Friday. Hopefully this is all done Saturday.

I’d say you made a good decision. With a couple of the tubes on the rad being even slightly bent, you then have to wonder if the bonding of the tubes to the upper and lower parts of the rad are weakened. Remember, the fins are just for enhanced heat transfer, the tubes carry the fluid. I’d prefer one that’s not even slightly bent. Hate doing cooling crap…antifreeze is just so crappy to deal with. I’d rather do brakes.

 

[WilliamM2]

I’d say you made a good decision. With a couple of the tubes on the rad being even slightly bent, you then have to wonder if the bonding of the tubes to the upper and lower parts of the rad are weakened. Remember, the fins are just for enhanced heat transfer, the tubes carry the fluid. I’d prefer one that’s not even slightly bent. Hate doing cooling crap…antifreeze is just so crappy to deal with. I’d rather do brakes.

Thanks, That was my concern, or that it pulled on the end tank crimps. Denso packs these like crap. I ended up with a Koyorad. packed very well, and in perfect condition. The radiator seems much better made as well, especially the crimps to the tanks. And the oil cooler lines and hardware or all brass. The replacement Denso was all steel:



Put it in Satutrday, let it idle in the driveway for 45 minutes or so to bleed the air and make sure the thermostat came on (it was only 36f outside). No leaks no far! Haven't really taken it anywhere yet. We got 4" of snow Sunday morning, deer all over the place, didn't want to risk it until I have somewhere to go.

They didn't refund all the shipping since I also bought hoses and a cap. Which is kinda BS. It was $12.99 for just the rad, or $12.99 for everything. To ship the new rad was $13.99 (different warehouse). But they did refund $8.50, so not too bad.

 

[Paperdoc]

Glad to hear of success. Meghan54 reminded me of a memorable cooling fix mid-winter of 1969 on a simple Ford Fairlaine - had to replace the water pump. Working at the curb on the street. But the temperature was about -30F (-35C) and you cannot avoid getting your hands soaked in antifreeze. So, frequent pauses to plunge hands into pockets and re-thaw them, making the whole process much longer. Other than that one time, though, my jobs on cooling systems have not been too bad. And they ARE important - a sudden bad leak in that system and you're really stuck!

 

[WilliamM2]

Glad to hear of success. Meghan54 reminded me of a memorable cooling fix mid-winter of 1969 on a simple Ford Fairlaine - had to replace the water pump. Working at the curb on the street. But the temperature was about -30F (-35C) and you cannot avoid getting your hands soaked in antifreeze. So, frequent pauses to plunge hands into pockets and re-thaw them, making the whole process much longer. Other than that one time, though, my jobs on cooling systems have not been too bad. And they ARE important - a sudden bad leak in that system and you're really stuck!

It was 36f outside when I ran the vehicle. It was a nice 65 in the garage while I worked on it. I'm not doing a four hour job in the snow.

 

[Paperdoc]

REALLY nice garage! We just built ours last year - detached by the back lane, 16" w x 20" d, unheated and unfinished inside. Very NOT like yours! SE part is for the car, side and mid-front extra space for storage on steel shelf units, and lots of things hung from side wall studs. I reinforced a couple studs to hang from them two sets or wheel racks for summer / winter wheels. Each holds 5 wheels, so that plus a little space handles three cars'' worth. We buried heavy electrical cable from the house breaker panel to supply 120/240 VAC power up to 100 A, plus redundant duplicate CAT6 network cable to get WiFi covering the garage, back yard and nearby back lane. Front space closest to the house has my workbench and tools.

Yours looks great! TV and stereo audio, even! Looks like a drain in the middle, and gas heater at front side.

Weather here now is about 0 C (32 F) daytime high, -8 C (18 F) at night. Our coldest comes and of January.

 

[WilliamM2]

Yours looks great! TV and stereo audio, even! Looks like a drain in the middle, and gas heater at front side.

Weather here now is about 0 C (32 F) daytime high, -8 C (18 F) at night. Our coldest comes and of January.

Thanks. The heater is in the back corner area. Steel shelving on both sides in the front corners. It's 28' wide x 26' deep. 6 feet on each side of the 16' door. I built the addition and this garage way back in 2007. At first it was going to be unfinished, then I went way over budget and decided to just finish it while I was at it. This pic is probably from 2015 or so, but it still looks the same. I'm rather proud of it, it was a lot of work.

The TV is only for controlling a Yamaha music server and a pre-pro in the house. It's an old 1980's TV I got for free, conected wirelessly with old X-10 stuff. The speakers are powered from the main rig in the living room from a multi channel amp. There's a sub under the workbench.

I have a 32" flat panel someone gave me I was going to put out there. Not sure it's worth the bother, I'm never gonna watch TV out there. Gotta have tunes though.

 

[Zorba]

Glad to hear of success. Meghan54 reminded me of a memorable cooling fix mid-winter of 1969 on a simple Ford Fairlaine - had to replace the water pump. Working at the curb on the street. But the temperature was about -30F (-35C) and you cannot avoid getting your hands soaked in antifreeze. So, frequent pauses to plunge hands into pockets and re-thaw them, making the whole process much longer. Other than that one time, though, my jobs on cooling systems have not been too bad. And they ARE important - a sudden bad leak in that system and you're really stuck!

Not in the cold thankfully, but here is my most interesting cooling fix. I was driving home from college to vote. On the turnpike in the middle of nowhere, heater hose union broke. Pulled over was able to get the hose clamped on the body of the union (lip was gone). For some reason I had a quarter jug of antifreeze in the car that I put in, but I was still really low. Walked to the first farm house, knocked on the door, no answer so I filled up my jug from their outdoor faucet and topped it off.

91 Grand Marquis.

 

[Zorba]

Thanks, That was my concern, or that it pulled on the end tank crimps. Denso packs these like crap. I ended up with a Koyorad. packed very well, and in perfect condition. The radiator seems much better made as well, especially the crimps to the tanks. And the oil cooler lines and hardware or all brass. The replacement Denso was all steel:

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Put it in Satutrday, let it idle in the driveway for 45 minutes or so to bleed the air and make sure the thermostat came on (it was only 36f outside). No leaks no far! Haven't really taken it anywhere yet. We got 4" of snow Sunday morning, deer all over the place, didn't want to risk it until I have somewhere to go.

They didn't refund all the shipping since I also bought hoses and a cap. Which is kinda BS. It was $12.99 for just the rad, or $12.99 for everything. To ship the new rad was $13.99 (different warehouse). But they did refund $8.50, so not too bad.

I'm glad it worked out. IMHO, the piece of mind was worth doing the exchange.