Opteron 165@3.0GHz

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Elfear

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Originally posted by: JustStarting

I have a DFI NF4 SLI-DR (ABO) running this rig. It's good to 330HTT.

What BIOS are you running? I bought mine used and it already had the 704-BT2A.

I'm just amazed at this 165 so far.... 2.75Ghz, 42C loaded w/ 1.54v and the Ceramique has not even started to cure. My 170 took a few days to play nice and that has only seen 1.46v to get 2.80Ghz. I have not tried any higher voltage with the 170, but anything over 2.80Ghz is not prime stable for more than a few hours at 1.46v.

I'm going to enjoy phase with both of these cpu's

I'm using the same bios as you. Sounds like you have some nice chips. You can find the best overclocker and than sell the other one on Ebay and make some money.
 

JustStarting

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: JustStarting

I have a DFI NF4 SLI-DR (ABO) running this rig. It's good to 330HTT.

What BIOS are you running? I bought mine used and it already had the 704-BT2A.

I'm just amazed at this 165 so far.... 2.75Ghz, 42C loaded w/ 1.54v and the Ceramique has not even started to cure. My 170 took a few days to play nice and that has only seen 1.46v to get 2.80Ghz. I have not tried any higher voltage with the 170, but anything over 2.80Ghz is not prime stable for more than a few hours at 1.46v.

I'm going to enjoy phase with both of these cpu's

I'm using the same bios as you. Sounds like you have some nice chips. You can find the best overclocker and than sell the other one on Ebay and make some money.


I pass the deals on here- maybe asking $20 over what I paid for a proven overclocker. I'd go to ebay and make a killing, but I'm sure half the auctions on these Opty's don't actually get paid for:disgust: Too may idiots there.


 

Avalon

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You and Mucker are both an endless pit of golden CPUs
That is one amazing overclocker, Elfear. Nice job!
You guys may have won the s939 round, but when AM2 and OCZ's revolution rolls around, I'll be back at it in full force

:thumbsup:
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: Avalon
You and Mucker are both an endless pit of golden CPUs
That is one amazing overclocker, Elfear. Nice job!
You guys may have won the s939 round, but when AM2 and OCZ's revolution rolls around, I'll be back at it in full force

:thumbsup:


Thanks Avalon. I'm looking forward to seeing some amazing overclocks from you when you switch to phase and AM2. I was planning on buying one of the OCZ units when it comes out but I have to concentrate on school right now, and phase would be way to much fun.
 

robertk2012

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I could do it with a different motherboard. And I live in Florida too

Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Skott
Yeah, its watercooling. Only way you'll ever hit those kind of speeds on a 165. I was reading last night some are hitting 3.5GHz with the FX-60 using watercooling. Its an impressive overclock nevertheless. Good job.


Thanks. Pretty rare to hit 3.0GHz on air unless you live in Siberia and you leave your rig outside.

 

lopri

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If the chip is capable of dual SuperPI 32M @3GHz, I'm gussing it could do dual Prime95 @2.9GHz? (Well, it was the case with my single-core 144. So dual-core could be different, though.) What's the highest clock for dual-Prime95 stable? Anyhow, congrats on the great chip. I've seen 170/175 does 3.0GHz but never a 165. That's quite an achievement!
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: lopri
If the chip is capable of dual SuperPI 32M @3GHz, I'm gussing it could do dual Prime95 @2.9GHz? (Well, it was the case with my single-core 144. So dual-core could be different, though.) What's the highest clock for dual-Prime95 stable? Anyhow, congrats on the great chip. I've seen 170/175 does 3.0GHz but never a 165. That's quite an achievement!


Thanks. I'm not sure what the max dual Prime stable setting is. I've tested it to 2.8GHz@1.4V dual Prime, but I haven't had time to try higher. School should slow down a bit next week so I'll test more than. I'll also get some screenshots for you guys.
 

JustStarting

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my 165 core 2 will prime at 2.85 all day, but core 1 craps out around 2750

I am shopping for phase cooling as we speak

Most guys on XS get about 200- 300mhz more on phase than air.
 

song414

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: chiguy2891
nice job. what stepping do you have?


It's a CCB1E 0550 VPMW I got from Monarch a few weeks ago.

I'll try and get some screenshots later today or by this weekend. School has been crazy so I don't have a lot of time right now but I will post something up for you guys.

AWESOME i hve that stepping! ordered from monarch few weeks back havent got to test it out since all my parts arent here.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Ummm....mine is faster: I have P4 at 3.2ghz

Well, my 820 dual-core at 3.43 is faster than your P4@3.2, and my X2 3800@2500 blows the crap out of it !
 

VERTIGGO

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: chiguy2891
nice job. what stepping do you have?


It's a CCB1E 0550 VPMW I got from Monarch a few weeks ago.

I'll try and get some screenshots later today or by this weekend. School has been crazy so I don't have a lot of time right now but I will post something up for you guys.

OMG. I think I splooged my trousers. I have the same exact stepping from Digitalhotbuy.com. Now I can't wait to get that thing purring.
 

lopri

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CCB1E 0550VPMW is a hit-or-miss stepping. Not as consistent as, say, 0530TPMW or 0546XPMW, etc. Some chips will clock extremely high (like Elfear's), but some will not be as good. My observation on this stepping is:

1. Excellent clocks @low volts. Many will do 2.6~2.65GHz @stock or near stock vcore. Perfect stepping for people who wants a cool, quiet system. Basically it's like a stock FX-60.
2. If you're not lucky enough to get a chip like Elfear's (which is very likely ), you might hit the great wall around 2.7GHz.
3. The 2 cores might show extremely unequal behaviors. For example, core 1 can go up as high as 3GHz but core 0 will not even do 2.75Ghz, etc..

Elfear's chip is one of the golden, magnificent CCB1Es. But in general I think this stepping is somewhat defective. (Well, if you could call it that, lol) I'm not saying that 2.6GHz @1.31V is bad! I'm talking about the manufacturing for this stepping and the pattern of chips performance/clocking behavior.

Elfear, what is the batch # of your CCB1E? The first 3 digit numbers right after "L" on the 3rd line of imprint. I'd much appreciate it if you could remember.

These days it seems like dual-core CPUs clock higher than single-core CPUs. lol.. Congrats again on your extraordinary achievement, Elfear. I don't think we'll see a retail chip faster than that till next year. FX-64 for $300! Holy!

Edit: Spelling
 

Elfear

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Thanks guys. I finally got a screenshot for you. Sorry the voltage didn't show up.

I'm running into some weird issues that hopefully you guys can help me out with. I can boot into Safe Mode just fine and run SuperPi no problem, but everytime I try and boot into Windows it either freezes right after the CMOS check or at the Windows load screen. Sometimes I get corrupt graphics (different colors with weird symbols at different parts of the screen) and it freezes. Memtest passed like 40 times with no errors, so I know ram isn't the issue.

I've tried everything I can think of, which includes:
1) Raising vcore up to 1.59V
2) Raising chipset and LDT voltage
3) Switching my sata cables to port 3 and 4
4) Different PCI-E Frequencies (100, 101, and 105)
5) Two second delay for the hardrives to spin up

Nothing really seems to help. It seems like either the sata drives are pooping out (which still wouldn't explain why it's stable in Safe Mode) or there is some driver issue causing it to crash. Any ideas?
 

lopri

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Originally posted by: Elfear
I'm running into some weird issues that hopefully you guys can help me out with. I can boot into Safe Mode just fine and run SuperPi no problem, but everytime I try and boot into Windows it either freezes right after the CMOS check or at the Windows load screen. Sometimes I get corrupt graphics (different colors with weird symbols at different parts of the screen) and it freezes. Memtest passed like 40 times with no errors, so I know ram isn't the issue.

Hmm.. That usually happens when you clock the chip beyond the chip's max limit... At what clock are you getting that symptom? And at what vcore? If you lower the HTT, say, like by 5, does it solve the problem? Need more details..

P.S. Elfear, were you able to check the batch # of your 165? It should be like;
XXXXXXAL50XXX
Could you check the last 5 digits and PM me, if you can? I'd appreciate it.



 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: lopri

Hmm.. That usually happens when you clock the chip beyond the chip's max limit... At what clock are you getting that symptom? And at what vcore? If you lower the HTT, say, like by 5, does it solve the problem? Need more details..

I'd think the chip was just past it's limit too but, like I said, it passes SuperPi just fine when I boot into Safe Mode. I'd think dual instances of SuperPi 32M would be harder on the chip than just getting into Windows. That's why I'm a little baffled.

I can lower the HTT down to about 315 and it seems to post fine, but if I get much above that than I get lockups and weird pauses. The chip is dual Prime stable at 311HTT with 1.4V so it doesn't seem like the chip is hitting it's max. I've ran the vocore all the way up to 1.59V and it doesn't seem to help. I might try a lower divider but the chip didn't seem to like it when I attempted that before.



Originally posted by: lopri
P.S. Elfear, were you able to check the batch # of your 165? It should be like;
XXXXXXAL50XXX
Could you check the last 5 digits and PM me, if you can? I'd appreciate it.

I'll see if I can do that tonight. I'll have to pull off the waterblock and check.

 

avatar36

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Sometimes I get corrupt graphics (different colors with weird symbols at different parts of the screen) and it freezes.

The second time I booted with my new 7800GT I got that problem but it only happened once, though I'm only OC'ing my 165 to 2.44. So maybe a video issue?
 

GuitarDaddy

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Sounds like you may be hitting the HTT limit on your board. Have you ever test your max HTT, by lowering the multi?
 

JustStarting

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memtest stable and Windows stable are not the same thing.

You may be stressing the memory to it limit with timings. Try to relax the timings a touch. These things are finicky. My 165 is requiring all kinds of memory tweaks..... a few days ago I was kinda stuck at 2.7Ghz prime stable....... now up to 2.75Ghz stable. I'm on the 180 divider and memory is pretty relaxed. I'm tweaking drive strengths, pre-amble, idle timer, etc.. and inching up each time.
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Sounds like you may be hitting the HTT limit on your board. Have you ever test your max HTT, by lowering the multi?


I haven't tried it yet, although I should have by now. I just barely traded out my old DFI board for a new ADO revision so I thought I'd be good to go but I better check to make sure.


Originally posted by: JustStarting
memtest stable and Windows stable are not the same thing.

Agreed. If it was just Memtest stable than I wouldn't question the fact that it might not be able to get into Windows. I'm just baffled because it passes SuperPi with flying colors but won't boot into Windows.

Originally posted by: JustStarting
You may be stressing the memory to it limit with timings. Try to relax the timings a touch. These things are finicky. My 165 is requiring all kinds of memory tweaks..... a few days ago I was kinda stuck at 2.7Ghz prime stable....... now up to 2.75Ghz stable. I'm on the 180 divider and memory is pretty relaxed. I'm tweaking drive strengths, pre-amble, idle timer, etc.. and inching up each time.

I'll try relaxing the timings too just for fun. Maybe 3-5-5-8 will do the trick. I've messed with a lot of different dram settings to finally get to the ones I'm using. They seem to provide the most stability.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: Absolute0
The times on the dual 32M were ~40 minutes?! Are you running your ram really lose?

Good point! This could be a sign of instability

My SD3700+ @ 2.8ghz gets 28 mins in 32m, no way should it take 40 mins at 3.0
 
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