O'Reilly vs. Moore video

[konichiwa]

Not sure if this was in that monster of a thread about the debate, I didn't see it in there but I also didn't look that hard.

This was posted over on OT:

http://www.spicytuna.net/interesting/vids/The%20OReilly%20Factor%20-%20Michael%20Moore%20Interview.wmv

 

[fs5]

yeah, that's my link. bastards in OT started arguing politics so it got locked :|
I have about 20 gb left of transfer for the month, leech away

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5
yeah, that's my link. bastards in OT started arguing politics so it got locked :|
I have about 20 gb left of transfer for the month, leech away

Thanks for mirroring it.

 

[Arsynic]

Dl, now...

 

[Bling]

It's a shame that Moore get's more press than Kerry.

 

[dmcowen674]

I didn't get to see it.

Moore shredded O'Lielly and spit him out, was absolutely Masterful :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Arsynic]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't get to see it.

Moore shredded O'Lielly and spit him out, was absolutely Masterful :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

By dancing around the issue and that "Your Child" argument? Moore got owned. He basically said that he would have done a preemptive strike against Germany WWII and never let Hitler get into power. When O'Reilly cornered him, he jumped into the "Sending your children to war" argument like U.S. soldiers are a bunch of 12 year old's forced into the Army against their will.

He said Bush lied and refused to apologize after three MORE CREDIBLE sources said otherwise. Moore is just another forum fanboy with enough money to make a movie about his uneducated and misinformed drivel.

 

[sillymofo]

O'Reilly got pwned.

 

[Goosemaster]

Bookmarking for later

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Arsynic

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't get to see it.

Moore shredded O'Lielly and spit him out, was absolutely Masterful :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

By dancing around the issue and that "Your Child" argument? Moore got owned. He basically said that he would have done a preemptive strike against Germany WWII and never let Hitler get into power. When O'Reilly cornered him, he jumped into the "Sending your children to war" argument like U.S. soldiers are a bunch of 12 year old's forced into the Army against their will.

He said Bush lied and refused to apologize after three MORE CREDIBLE sources said otherwise. Moore is just another forum fanboy with enough money to make a movie about his uneducated and misinformed drivel.

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
O'Reilly got pwned.

Awww poor NeoCons, they're brainwashiing abilities have all but completely slipped away and left them except for a few holdouts on P&N.

Watch the Interview again. Moore was referring to WWI not WWII and that he would've not have stood by like a pansy that the Euro Countries like France did and let the SOB rise to power like he did.

Excuse me, are you going to argue that the majority of our solidiers are not very young adults just graduated from High School at 18 years old??? That is still kids with theor entire lives left ahead of them.

Implying Moore was referring to 12 Year Olds is an absolute disgrace to our Heroes. :thumbsdown:

Moore has more money than he can ever do with it, it's certainly not about money.

Not only should Bush apologize that he was wrong but so should your so-called Three Credible sources that were also equally as wrong but also refuse to apologize because they are puppets for the Fearless Liar as well. Very Sad

A very dark time in history for the United States under the Fearless Liar Regime as will be written in the books for generations in the future to look back upon and make sure it does not happen again.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Excuse me, are you going to argue that the majority of our solidiers are not very young adults just graduated from High School at 18 years old??? That is still kids with theor entire lives left ahead of them.

what's sad is that those "kids" have already done so much more, and more important things than you have and more likely ever will and I am willing to bet they bitch alot less

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Excuse me, are you going to argue that the majority of our solidiers are not very young adults just graduated from High School at 18 years old??? That is still kids with theor entire lives left ahead of them.

what's sad is that those "kids" have already done so much more, and more important things than you have and more likely ever will and I am willing to bet they bitch alot less

That's why they are Heroes while I am just a lowly civillian that they actually are out there fighting to protect me and their Country they are willing to die for even at such a young tneder age to still be considered a child, no not 12 like P&Nrs would dare suggest but just legal enough to vote and die.

It sick that they can't even get a drink till 21 but can die 3 years before they are recognized as old enough to drink.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Why even have a discussion about who won? We already know who will say Moore won and who will say O'Reilly won.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Why even have a discussion about who won? We already know who will say Moore won and who will say O'Reilly won.

I agree, it's very clear between the Brainwashed and those wearing Tin Foil Hats to ward off said Brainwashing waves. :thumbsup:

 

[Arsynic]

Awww poor NeoCons, they're brainwashiing abilities have all but completely slipped away and left them except for a few holdouts on P&N.

Watch the Interview again. Moore was referring to WWI not WWII and that he would've not have stood by like a pansy that the Euro Countries like France did and let the SOB rise to power like he did.

A preemptive strike? Thank you.

Excuse me, are you going to argue that the majority of our solidiers are not very young adults just graduated from High School at 18 years old??? That is still kids with theor entire lives left ahead of them.

"Kids" who were cognizant enough to know that when they joined the Army they weren't going to tie knots and sing songs around the camp fire.

Implying Moore was referring to 12 Year Olds is an absolute disgrace to our Heroes. :thumbsdown:

Your comment was a disgrace to the American educational system. Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Moore has more money than he can ever do with it, it's certainly not about money.

See above.

Not only should Bush apologize that he was wrong but so should your so-called Three Credible sources that were also equally as wrong but also refuse to apologize because they are puppets for the Fearless Liar as well. Very Sad

So the Russians are puppets as well? Where are their forces in Iraq? Oh, that's right, the "puppets" chose to go against the "puppet master." Bush got his information from three seperate sets of Intelligence which all happened to be wrong. If your own intelligence, British intelligence and Russian intelligence tells you that WMD is a "slam dunk", what the hell would you do? Don't answer that, because you'll answer opposite to what's obvious because hindsight is 20/20. You're just another liberal tool.

A very dark time in history for the United States under the Fearless Liar Regime as will be written in the books for generations in the future to look back upon and make sure it does not happen again.

Another tool that doesn't know the difference between a lie and a mistake. Damn people are ignorant. There's no way in hell we're going to last as long as the Romans....

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Arsynic

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't get to see it.

Moore shredded O'Lielly and spit him out, was absolutely Masterful :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

By dancing around the issue and that "Your Child" argument? Moore got owned. He basically said that he would have done a preemptive strike against Germany WWII and never let Hitler get into power. When O'Reilly cornered him, he jumped into the "Sending your children to war" argument like U.S. soldiers are a bunch of 12 year old's forced into the Army against their will.

He said Bush lied and refused to apologize after three MORE CREDIBLE sources said otherwise. Moore is just another forum fanboy with enough money to make a movie about his uneducated and misinformed drivel.

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
O'Reilly got pwned.

Awww poor NeoCons, they're brainwashiing abilities have all but completely slipped away and left them except for a few holdouts on P&N.

Watch the Interview again. Moore was referring to WWI not WWII and that he would've not have stood by like a pansy that the Euro Countries like France did and let the SOB rise to power like he did.

Excuse me, are you going to argue that the majority of our solidiers are not very young adults just graduated from High School at 18 years old??? That is still kids with theor entire lives left ahead of them.

Implying Moore was referring to 12 Year Olds is an absolute disgrace to our Heroes. :thumbsdown:

Moore has more money than he can ever do with it, it's certainly not about money.

Not only should Bush apologize that he was wrong but so should your so-called Three Credible sources that were also equally as wrong but also refuse to apologize because they are puppets for the Fearless Liar as well. Very Sad

A very dark time in history for the United States under the Fearless Liar Regime as will be written in the books for generations in the future to look back upon and make sure it does not happen again.

Sighs... some people, regardless of how old they are, or what they have experienced in life, would never open their minds. Sad, really.

EDIT: reading your post again confuses me.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Arsynic

Another tool that doesn't know the difference between a lie and a mistake. Damn people are ignorant. There's no way in hell we're going to last as long as the Romans....

Not that I really want to get involved in it, but if one makes a mistake (if we are to believe that's what it was and not a lie), does that not still warrant an appology? Should he appologize to the American soldiers for sending them there? Should he appologize to the people of Iraq for attacking them when they posed no threat to us?

If there is a consequence to another as a result of a mistake I have made, I own up to it and make amends. It would seem our President would disagree.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Arsynic

So the Russians are puppets as well? Where are their forces in Iraq? Oh, that's right, the "puppets" chose to go against the "puppet master." Bush got his information from three seperate sets of Intelligence which all happened to be wrong. If your own intelligence, British intelligence and Russian intelligence tells you that WMD is a "slam dunk", what the hell would you do? Don't answer that, because you'll answer opposite to what's obvious because hindsight is 20/20. You're just another liberal tool.

A very dark time in history for the United States under the Fearless Liar Regime as will be written in the books for generations in the future to look back upon and make sure it does not happen again.

Another tool that doesn't know the difference between a lie and a mistake. Damn people are ignorant. There's no way in hell we're going to last as long as the Romans....

If it was a giant "mistake" then why can't the Fealess Liar just stand up and say so and apologize for the mistake??? What's so hard about that??? He can stand there along side the others that contributed to the "mistake" and all apologize for it.

But that's not going to happen is it.

"There's no way in hell we're going to last as long as the Romans."

We certainly agree there

 

[Arsynic]

Originally posted by: PinwiZ

Originally posted by: Arsynic

Another tool that doesn't know the difference between a lie and a mistake. Damn people are ignorant. There's no way in hell we're going to last as long as the Romans....

Not that I really want to get involved in it, but if one makes a mistake (if we are to believe that's what it was and not a lie), does that not still warrant an appology? Should he appologize to the American soldiers for sending them there? Should he appologize to the people of Iraq for attacking them when they posed no threat to us?

Ask Bush, not me. He shouldn't have to apologize for telling a lie, when it wasn't a lie. The CIA, British and Russian intelligence should apologize.

If there is a consequence to another as a result of a mistake I have made, I own up to it and make amends. It would seem our President would disagree.

Would you take the blame for a mistake you made based on someone elses mistake? If you ran over a little child because the mechanic who was supposed to fix your brakes didn't do his job, should you apologize? IMO, apologizing just feeds the lies heaped upon Bush. Apologizing would be like admitting he is a liar, which he isn't.

I'm not partisan. I'd defend Kerry the same way if he were MY LEADER.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: PinwiZ

Originally posted by: Arsynic

Another tool that doesn't know the difference between a lie and a mistake. Damn people are ignorant. There's no way in hell we're going to last as long as the Romans....

Not that I really want to get involved in it, but if one makes a mistake (if we are to believe that's what it was and not a lie), does that not still warrant an appology? Should he appologize to the American soldiers for sending them there? Should he appologize to the people of Iraq for attacking them when they posed no threat to us?

If there is a consequence to another as a result of a mistake I have made, I own up to it and make amends. It would seem our President would disagree.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[judasmachine]

Thanks for the bandwidth guys. I think mr. oreilly showed great restraint in not pulling an uzi or something. nuckin futcase.

 

[MoFunk]

Everyone a few years ago (Democrat and Republican) were getting face time and telling how Saddam has WMD and is a threat to the USA. The US got intelligence that supported an attack. Saddam was warned numerous times to let the UN inspectors in and he refused. He was then given the option to comply, or we were coming in. He chose his fate. We went in and DID NOT DO THE JOB THAT WE SHOULD HAVE!!!!!!!! Because it was not a 2 day event, all the Dems that once warned of Saddam and WMD, not took this opportunity to BASH BUSH! But you are right, Bush should say he is sorry. Here I will do it for him,

"I would like to tell the poeple of Iraq, the we are sorry. We should have stayed out of it. I mean, Saddam was not that bad right? As long as you did as you were told, you would not need to get your arm chopped of, or get gassed. Your kids never really deserved to be free and attend school. We are sorry. We should have stayed out of it."

Maybe we should take the same Democrat stand of staying out of other country's business and quite sending millions of dollars to other countries for AIDS research and start spending that money here.

What Bush is really guilty of, is pandering to the left and not leaveling that place and ending the war in 2 days!

 

[LordMagnusKain]

So the Russians are puppets as well?

yes, this is the only argument that can support the idea that bush lied about why we where going into iraq. Did anyone actually watch his speeches? he didn't focus on WMDs exclusively, he gave a laundry list of reasons.

 

[MoFunk]

I have just finished watching the video. I do not like O'Rielly that much, and I really do not like Moore. But I have changed my mind. I like O'Rielly a little better and I dislike Moore a little more.

GET ME OFF THIS DAMN PLANET!

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Would you take the blame for a mistake you made based on someone elses mistake? If you ran over a little child because the mechanic who was supposed to fix your brakes didn't do his job, should you apologize? IMO, apologizing just feeds the lies heaped upon Bush. Apologizing would be like admitting he is a liar, which he isn't.

I'm not partisan. I'd defend Kerry the same way if he were MY LEADER.

That analogy just doesn't work. Regular citizens can heap blame for their mistakes onto the parties who are responsible in such cases, but when we're talking about the leader of the free world, he can say that he was misinformed all he wants, but when it comes down to it, he makes the calls. He should take responsibility for every call he makes, whether it turns out to be the right one or the wrong one.

Perhaps our current president should take a lesson from a former one.

When the sh|t hits the fan (as it clearly has in this case), whether it was a lie or a mistake, it is ultimately the preisdent's responsibility as the leader of the nation. He made the call, and whether it was based on good information or bad, he should take responsibility for his mistake, even if it was partially caused by the mistakes of others.

But obviously in the Bush whitehouse the buck stops somewhere around George Tenet...