O'Reilly vs. Moore video

[classy]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
O'Reilly got pwned.

I like O'Reilly, but he got pretty well handled. The question would he send his own child really spoke volumes of his true feelings. Its easy to support what the President does when it doesn't affect your child. But when the question was concerning his own child it was no answer.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
O'Reilly got pwned.

I like O'Reilly, but he got pretty well handled. The question would he send his own child really spoke volumes of his true feelings. Its easy to support what the President does when it doesn't affect your child. But when the question was concerning his own child it was no answer.

I can understand why you like O'Reilly. Anyone who loves discriminatory politics loves him.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
O'Reilly got pwned.

I like O'Reilly, but he got pretty well handled. The question would he send his own child really spoke volumes of his true feelings. Its easy to support what the President does when it doesn't affect your child. But when the question was concerning his own child it was no answer.

I can understand why you like O'Reilly. Anyone who loves discriminatory politics loves him.

First of all, genius, O'Reilly is a republican. Anyone here will quickly tell you I am anything but a supporter of republicans. But Bill is a pretty good news person and seems to be a respectable person. He really does bring out both sides of the story a lot of times. He is not a blind right winger like Hannity or Limbaugh. So you can **ow me

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It sick that they can't even get a drink till 21 but can die 3 years before they are recognized as old enough to drink.

which is why the drinking age should be lowered to 18.

 

[AKhandyman]

I agree that Bush should have leveled Saddam's palaces in 2 days! And as for apologizing, hell, there's nothing to apolgize about. Most all of the Iraqis are very, very grateful for the US. It's the *ucking foreign fighters that will continue to stir up trouble and hope for a soft left wing government to take over in the USA so they come right over without fear and blow us up in broad daylight, with Kerry's blessings.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: AKhandyman
I agree that Bush should have leveled Saddam's palaces in 2 days! And as for apologizing, hell, there's nothing to apolgize about. Most all of the Iraqis are very, very grateful for the US. It's the *ucking foreign fighters that will continue to stir up trouble and hope for a soft left wing government to take over in the USA so they come right over without fear and blow us up in broad daylight, with Kerry's blessings.

And I suppose that you have done a poll of Iraqis, right? :roll: Gimme a break

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It sick that they can't even get a drink till 21 but can die 3 years before they are recognized as old enough to drink.

which is why the drinking age should be lowered to 18.

I agree.

It was 18 before Politics brainwashed the Country into believing those between 18-21 won't drink anyway

:roll:

 

[AKhandyman]

from konichiwa

And I suppose that you have done a poll of Iraqis, right? Gimme a break

I am absorbing all avenues of news media, both liberal and conservative outlets, and then I decide for myself what to think. There are a majority of Iraqis that are better off than they were when Saddam was in power. It's always the liberals that don't say anything good about the good we have done. It's like it just doesn't exist. Why? Because that would be admitting the good ole USA is doing what it has done for years. Helping other countries help themselves when other countries just say no. Geez. Can't you liberals ever get a clue?

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: AKhandyman
I am absorbing all avenues of news media, both liberal and conservative outlets, and the I decide for myself what to think. There are a majority of Iraqis that are better off than they were when Saddam was in power. It's always the liberals that don't say anything good about the good we have done. It's like it just doesn't exist. Why? Because that would be admitting the good ole USA is doing what it has done for years. Helping other countries help themselves when other countries just say no. Geez. Can't you liberals ever get a clue?

I have no problem with "helping other countries help themselves" but in the case of Iraq the case for war was presented as:

1) WMD
2) Direct threat to US
3) Direct threat to neighbors

And now that all of the above have since been proven wrong, we've resorted to "we're helping the Iraqis out" which is complete BS! Since when have we gone around the world being the international police, kicking out dictators as we see fit?

There are probably 20+ dictators who are FAR WORSE than Saddam ever was, so why don't we go get them too?

 

[AKhandyman]

You are only assuming that your points have been proven wrong. There is still possibilities that WMD exist, Iraq was a threat to the US via monies being laundered to terrorist groups and they did attack Kuwait. You just don't like an administration that decided not to be pushed around anymore by the likes of the UN. I for one sure as hell don't want to hear you screaming bloody murder, should, God Forbid, Kerry steal this election, and then the terrorists come over here and start killing Americans and destroying our economy left and right. It will happen if Kerry and the Dems hoodwink this election.

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It sick that they can't even get a drink till 21 but can die 3 years before they are recognized as old enough to drink.

which is why the drinking age should be lowered to 18.

I agree.

It was 18 before Politics brainwashed the Country into believing those between 18-21 won't drink anyway

:roll:

And you know what's even more fcuked up? They banned the sales of Penthouse, Playboys and the like magazines being sold at PX back in '98. Fcuking digusting.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It sick that they can't even get a drink till 21 but can die 3 years before they are recognized as old enough to drink.

which is why the drinking age should be lowered to 18.

I agree.

It was 18 before Politics brainwashed the Country into believing those between 18-21 won't drink anyway

:roll:

And you know what's even more fcuked up? They banned the sales of Penthouse, Playboys and the like magazines being sold at PX back in '98. Fcuking digusting.

Wow, just found out that our Soldiers 18-20 from Louisiana can die but cannot buy or smoke cigarettes until they are 21 too!!!

 

[NightCrawler]

I have extended family in Iraq and I still support the war and yes I would send my son or daughter to fight in Faluja if he/she wanted to join the volunteer military. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
O'Reilly got pwned.

I like O'Reilly, but he got pretty well handled. The question would he send his own child really spoke volumes of his true feelings. Its easy to support what the President does when it doesn't affect your child. But when the question was concerning his own child it was no answer.

I can understand why you like O'Reilly. Anyone who loves discriminatory politics loves him.

First of all, genius, O'Reilly is a republican. Anyone here will quickly tell you I am anything but a supporter of republicans. But Bill is a pretty good news person and seems to be a respectable person. He really does bring out both sides of the story a lot of times. He is not a blind right winger like Hannity or Limbaugh. So you can **ow me

Read it slowly, i didn't say you like republicans, i said you like discriminatory politics. A good news person. LMAO, yeah, sure he is, blinded by his own discriminatory politics and his own faith carried as if he was moses or something.

The man is so full of himself it isn't even funny.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Moore did most definintely not get "owned". On the other hand, I don't feel that O'Reilly was "owned". I would give the nod to Moore in the interview. The "sacrificing your child" was at both effective and a bit of a stretch. The "You're Saddam's biggest supporter" was just a piece of crap argument. I've read the transcript multiple times, I've watched the video twice.

Thumbs up to both of them. That was a remarkably civil

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Moore did most definintely not get "owned". On the other hand, I don't feel that O'Reilly was "owned". I would give the nod to Moore in the interview. The "sacrificing your child" was at both effective and a bit of a stretch. The "You're Saddam's biggest supporter" was just a piece of crap argument. I've read the transcript multiple times, I've watched the video twice.

Thumbs up to both of them. That was a remarkably civil

It's the common mantra, you don't support the invasion, you are a fan of SH.

"you are either with us or against us"

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Moore did most definintely not get "owned". On the other hand, I don't feel that O'Reilly was "owned". I would give the nod to Moore in the interview. The "sacrificing your child" was at both effective and a bit of a stretch. The "You're Saddam's biggest supporter" was just a piece of crap argument. I've read the transcript multiple times, I've watched the video twice.

Thumbs up to both of them. That was a remarkably civil

I agree. They both made some valid points.

As for the "sacrificing your child" argument, what O'Reilly SHOULD have said is, "My child is old enough to make his/her own decisions, just like you and me. I would sacrifice myself to secure Fallujah, if my child chose to sacrifice themself to secure Fallujah I would support him/her"

Moore should have conceded that there was a difference between a deliberate lie and what Bush said, O'Reilly should have conceded that an apology is necessary.

O'Reilly came off as more mature, Moore seemed to have better arguments.

 

[Excelsior]

If you think O'Reilly was "owned", end your life please. You are worthless.

 

[crimson117]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5
yeah, that's my link. bastards in OT started arguing politics so it got locked :|
I have about 20 gb left of transfer for the month, leech away

prepend the link with "http://freecache.org" and it will save you tons of bandwidth! Read http://archive.org/freecache for details.

Link should be like this (%3A is the code for a colon)

http://freecache.org/http%3A//www.spicytuna.net/interesting/vids/The%20OReilly%20Factor%20-%20Michael%20Moore%20Interview.wmv

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't get to see it.

Moore shredded O'Lielly and spit him out, was absolutely Masterful :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

did you perchance ever work at the ministry of information in iraq oh...about 2 years ago, and use the phrase "there are no americans at the airport"?

you sure seem to have the same idea of a "masterful win" as that guy did...

i just wanted to add that moore's request was that no footage be edited!

i cannot say i blame him, michael moore of all people knows what "editing" can do...he makes his living at it!

ROFL!!!!!

 

[Kalmah]

I havn't read all the replies but would like to chime in here.

Being misinformed by legitimate resources and then relaying it to the country isn't lieing. It's saying what you honestly believe is true. Moore's comments about somebody being brainwashed into believeing something is true is falty. Because that person really wouldn't be lieing. Lieing it telling somebody something falty on purpose. Moore holds no ground on that issue.

Moore also said he would have made a pre-emptive strike on Hitler. Wouldn't that be putting our "kids" in danger because Hitler MIGHT become a potential problem? What if Hitler would have turned out to be a nice guy? Then from Moore's perspective, he would have been "lieing" himself by saying Hitler was a problem. On the other hand, Hitler would have been taken out and problem solved. If Iraq would have had WMD we would have taken them out and problem solved. But they didn't so I suppose Bush was lieing in the same way Moore would have been lieing about Hitler if he really wasn't a problem...

I don't agree with this war. Going to war to remove terrorism then find out you where mistaken, so you change it to "free the Iraq people" to cover your ass doesn't work on me.

O'Reily not commenting about Moore's question on whether he would send his own kids to war was a good choice. He would have dug himself into a hole no matter how he would have answered. A hole that is possible to get out of, but not when talking to a person narrow-minded as Moore. Moore would have sent his kids to war on a pre-emptive strike on Hitler though...


Ok, enough rambling from me. :-D

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It sick that they can't even get a drink till 21 but can die 3 years before they are recognized as old enough to drink.

which is why the drinking age should be lowered to 18.

I agree.

It was 18 before Politics brainwashed the Country into believing those between 18-21 won't drink anyway

:roll:

And you know what's even more fcuked up? They banned the sales of Penthouse, Playboys and the like magazines being sold at PX back in '98. Fcuking digusting.

Wow, just found out that our Soldiers 18-20 from Louisiana can die but cannot buy or smoke cigarettes until they are 21 too!!!

Says WHAT? It is 18 to buy/use tobacco in all states but Alabama(19) and Utah(19). What the hell are you talking about?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't get to see it.

Moore shredded O'Lielly and spit him out, was absolutely Masterful :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Are you kidding me?

Oreilly could have done better when asked about what to say to the families...He didn't shred him, and it definitely was not masterful.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: AKhandyman
You are only assuming that your points have been proven wrong. There is still possibilities that WMD exist, Iraq was a threat to the US via monies being laundered to terrorist groups and they did attack Kuwait. You just don't like an administration that decided not to be pushed around anymore by the likes of the UN. I for one sure as hell don't want to hear you screaming bloody murder, should, God Forbid, Kerry steal this election, and then the terrorists come over here and start killing Americans and destroying our economy left and right. It will happen if Kerry and the Dems hoodwink this election.

Hahaha okay, you just keep telling yourself "maybe the WMD will pop up" ...

 

[Turgon]

The idea that Bush should apologize is dangerous. This would have terrible effects on the morale of the troops in Iraq. It sends the wrong message to the Iraq people, who are ultimately much better off without Saddam. And it just feeds the terrorist propaganda machine.
I have a better idea.... maybe all of you hate filled liberals should apologize to the president for calling him a liar.