Osama bin Laden is dead

[BoomerD]

if you see a picture will you believe?

See, there are always going to be people who think our government is lying. So there will always be these wack job theorists out there trying to cast doubt upon everything and anything. Even a picture won't satisfy them.

Mosh, I have plenty of reasons NOT to trust our government. They ARE a bunch of lying fucker...who will lie to the people for a variety of reasons...and our "intelligence community" are some of the worst.
My experiences with them in Vietnam were enough to never trust those cocksuckers...and if I had to shake hands with one of them, I'd have to count my fingers when I was done...and make sure they hadn't stolen my wallet and watch as well...

Do I believe they killed Osama bin Laden? Yes, I do...but I still think they shouldn't have done the burial at sea.
"Where's the proof?"

 

[rudeguy]

I heard that the plan was to kill him. If it was possible to get him alive, why not?
maybe it would have been too dangerous for the team, then okay go ahead.
But then don't bury the body in the ocean the same day.
now it looks like they have something to hide or didn't want him to speak. I'm no conspirationist but a public trial would have been better.

I'm neutral about the fact that they found him. It's a personal vendetta for americans, but it's not going to change the scenario that much. It's just another head that goes down.
Even if he was an important mind of the movement there sure are plenty of others, like unknown people who can actually travel without getting busted if they step out of their house.

Where did you "hear it"

Take 5 minutes and read what happened before speaking

 

[highland145]

Mosh, I have plenty of reasons NOT to trust our government. They ARE a bunch of lying fucker...who will lie to the people for a variety of reasons...and our "intelligence community" are some of the worst.
My experiences with them in Vietnam were enough to never trust those cocksuckers...and if I had to shake hands with one of them, I'd have to count my fingers when I was done...and make sure they hadn't stolen my wallet and watch as well...

Do I believe they killed Osama bin Laden? Yes, I do...but I still think they shouldn't have done the burial at sea.
"Where's the proof?"

+1 on the 1st

On the 2nd, if he shows up in a new dance video, somebody lied.

 

[moshquerade]

Mosh, I have plenty of reasons NOT to trust our government. They ARE a bunch of lying fucker...who will lie to the people for a variety of reasons...and our "intelligence community" are some of the worst.
My experiences with them in Vietnam were enough to never trust those cocksuckers...and if I had to shake hands with one of them, I'd have to count my fingers when I was done...and make sure they hadn't stolen my wallet and watch as well...

Do I believe they killed Osama bin Laden? Yes, I do...but I still think they shouldn't have done the burial at sea.
"Where's the proof?"

OK Boomer, I understand where you are coming from.
I think burial at sea was the best move. Why would we want to take this guy alive? There are so many reasons not to. We also would not want to leave his body behind to become a shrine.

Let him be shark bait. I revel the thought.

 

[BoomerD]

OK Boomer, I understand where you are coming from.
I think burial at sea was the best move. Why would we want to take this guy alive? There are so many reasons not to. We also would not want to leave his body behind to become a shrine.

Let him be shark bait. I revel the thought.

I agree that he should have been killed, not captured. I just disagree with the burial at sea immediately.
He should have had 100 pounds of Jimmy Dean Pure Pork Sausage shoved up his ass, then his body wrapped in pig skin and fed to a bunch of hungry pigs.
We have NO obligation to the Islamic world to honor their traditions for burial of a terrorist.
Mess with the bull, you get the horn.

 

[techs]

If we hadn't killed OBL and disposed of the body it is quite likely that terrorists would take hostages in an attempt to trade for him.

So, offing him and dumping him in the ocean was the smart move.

It was damn near perfect.

(My only complaint is I didn't get to piss on his dead carcass )

Imagine the line for that!

 

[moshquerade]

I agree that he should have been killed, not captured. I just disagree with the burial at sea immediately.
He should have had 100 pounds of Jimmy Dean Pure Pork Sausage shoved up his ass, then his body wrapped in pig skin and fed to a bunch of hungry pigs.
We have NO obligation to the Islamic world to honor their traditions for burial of a terrorist.
Mess with the bull, you get the horn.

"We" aren't like that though. We don't stoop to that level. :\
We don't have a hate for Muslims. It's just the extremists like Bin Laden.
So we honored their 24 hr. burial rituals.

That's how I see it.

 

[BoomerD]

"We" aren't like that though. We don't stoop to that level. :\
We don't have a hate for Muslims. It's just the extremists like Bin Laden.
So we honored their 24 hr. burial rituals.

That's how I see it.

The guy didn't deserve such respect...and the Muslims can kiss my fat, white ass if they think he did.
As I posted earlier, OBL did more to damage relations between the Muslims and the rest of the world, than any other single human in history...and he showed his victims ZERO respect when he ordered their deaths.

Sometimes, revenge is best served steaming hot.

 

[techs]

"We" aren't like that though. We don't stoop to that level. :\
We don't have a hate for Muslims. It's just the extremists like Bin Laden.
So we honored their 24 hr. burial rituals.

That's how I see it.

Yes, agreed.
Smartest thing to do.

 

[dma0991]

Osama is dead because Chuck Norris was bored

 

[zinfamous]

I have my doubts. Why would they just toss him in the ocean after spending the better part of a decade and over a trillion dollars looking for him? Who gives a shit about muslim customs. The guy was a mass murderer... any muslim who thinks he deserved a traditional muslim burial should be on the terrorist watch list.

They should have brought the body back for independent analysis.

I sure am glad you're not president, or in charge of trying to win a war against terrorism.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Do I believe they killed Osama bin Laden? Yes, I do...but I still think they shouldn't have done the burial at sea.
"Where's the proof?"

you believe them despite lack of proof and despite massive distrust of them?

hypocrite much?

there really doesn't need to be proof

it would be massive egg on our face if Osama was still alive and comes out to prove he is still alive, and all at the risk of stressing relations with Pakistan...

 

[bignateyk]

I sure am glad you're not president, or in charge of trying to win a war against terrorism.

I wouldn't have been so stupid as to try to wage a "war on terror" to begin with.

 

[ultimatebob]

Osama is dead because Chuck Norris was bored

Nah... It's because Keefer Sutherland doesn't have a TV show to do anymore

 

[zinfamous]

The whole body in the sea thing is simply stupid.

It's interesting that we'd feel the need to stick to Islamic tradition when Islam (the mainstream version of it and not the radical version of which OBL was a part of) pretty much disowned OBL and said that he was not a true Muslim. So who exactly would be upset if we didn't follow Islamic burial rites? I don't get it at all.

I'm not saying we should drag his carcass through the streets like Mussolini or anything, but they better have taken some ROCK SOLID proof of his demise or the tin-foil crew is going to run with this for all eternity (not to mention the OBL loyalist can now claim bullshit)

It's taking the higher road. bin Laden was not a muslim in the accepted sense, sure. But to appeal, in whatever way, to the fuckwhipes that follow him is the better rode.

curring off his head and sticking it on a pike on the Brooklyn Bridge is the kind of thing he would do.

why would you want to be like them?

serious question.

This is why I am glad that you, or I, or 98% of the people posting in this thread, and 99.7% of Americans are not involved in these decisions.

reacting under passion is the fools course. That is the Bush kind of route--though I honestly believe that Bush would have made the exact same decision--Obama was elected b/c he was considered a calculating, level-headed individual.
This is the kind of decision that he was elected to make. He promised to ramp up actions in Afghanistan and draw down Iraq. He promised to re-prioritize Al Qaeda and the hunt for bin Laden. He started these actions on day one, as reported by several white house officials and intelligence authorities.

simply put, when it comes to the wars that we are engaged in--he has done exactly what we said he would do. Kudos to him.

 

[BoomerD]

you believe them despite lack of proof and despite massive distrust of them?

hypocrite much?

there really doesn't need to be proof

it would be massive egg on our face if Osama was still alive and comes out to prove he is still alive, and all at the risk of stressing relations with Pakistan...

Hypocrisy not found.
I have very good reasons to NOT trust our government, especially the intelligence agencies, but yes, I still believe them without proof...and (at least partly) for the reasons you've stated.

"We killed OBL!"

"What, No you didn't. I'm still here, bitches!"

That'd look pretty bad...

As for our relations with Pakistan...fuck them face down. They're far from being an "ally" in our war on terror.

 

[7window]

This is ridiculous. No video, live feed, or pic. Where is the proof?

 

[zinfamous]

does it matter? there are people that think man never went to the moon, and that the earth is flat, and so forth.

exactly. all of the videos, all of the pictures, all of the testimony and incontrovertible scientific evidence that has been collected and exists is not enough to convince certain oxygen-breathing human forms that we landed on the moon.

some people still deny evolution. some believe Oswald did not shoot JFK.

idiots abound

 

[JTsyo]

Imagine the line for that!

Charge $1000 per and maybe we can put a small dent in the deficit.

I sure am glad you're not president, or in charge of trying to win a war against terrorism.

heh you should be happy I'm not either. I would have drones up over the ME, waiting for OBL supporters to hold a memorial or such and bomb them to kingdom come.

 

[Doboji]

Fact is we don't have to prove he's dead. If he's not dead the benefits to Al Qaeda to show proof of life publicly would be huuuuge. The fact they cannot/willnot proves he's dead.

 

[7window]

So a simple declaration is what the country need and we celebrate. phooey

 

[Homerboy]

It's taking the higher road. bin Laden was not a muslim in the accepted sense, sure. But to appeal, in whatever way, to the fuckwhipes that follow him is the better rode.

curring off his head and sticking it on a pike on the Brooklyn Bridge is the kind of thing he would do.

why would you want to be like them?

serious question.

This is why I am glad that you, or I, or 98% of the people posting in this thread, and 99.7% of Americans are not involved in these decisions.

Oh come now Zim. You know I wasn't calling for his head on a pike outside the Capital steps right? I'm just saying that I don't think we had to strictly adhere to the Islamic law in this case. I don't think too many feathers would have been ruffled... not nearly as many as are now questioning the choice that was made.

 

[zinfamous]

this thread, and others like it, stand as a sad sad testament to how far we, as world citizens, have let our politicians, anti-intellectual fear, and appeals toward irrational judgment, take us.

I see that half of you trust a guy like Oliver Stone as a premium historian and distiller of truth over a guy like Edward R Murrow

jesus hume christ, you are one pathetic bunch.

 

[7window]

Mosh that pic last night is fake

 

[Homerboy]

exactly. all of the videos, all of the pictures, all of the testimony and incontrovertible scientific evidence that has been collected and exists is not enough to convince certain oxygen-breathing human forms that we never landed on the moon.

some people still deny evolution. some believe Oswald did not shoot JFK.

idiots abound

wait. what?! :biggrin: