Overclocking a fx-57 7800GTX

[DoItOnLAN]

Just purchased a athlon fx-57, pny 7800GTX, and a koolance exos-2 water cooling system. I was wondering what amount other people were able to achieve before they get to my door in around 4 days. Mhz and multiplier amounts appreicated ^_^

 

[stratman]

Before people help you out I just wanna say nice rig! what are you're other specs?

 

[Fresh Daemon]

Based on what I have seen I don't think you will break 3GHz. That usually requires sub-zero cooling and a lot of voltage. I'd say that 2.8-2.9GHz is reasonable though. I would expect a nice overclock on the 7800 as well, probably 500MHz or over on the core. You won't get much noise. It will run BF2 at a very high resolution with eye candy. You will be happy. There will be celebrations as Far Cry runs flawlessly with HDR, and the Lord will grin, and the people will feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats...

Edit: What mobo are you using? It better be DFI!

 

[DoItOnLAN]

Fresh Daemon; from what i've heard so far you can overclock the fx-57 to 3ghz with air cooling no problem, that's what turned me on to the water cooling solution. Stratman; I ordered this all from newegg last night, and if you're wondering i've been working construction up to 80 hours a week for this so it's really gonna be my baby.

Case: Thermaltake shark silver
Motherboard: DFI Lanparty nf4 sli
Video Card: PNY 7800 GTX (I've always liked pny since they can kick most cards asses at lower clock speeds, so lets over clock it
Processor: Amd athlon fx-57
Ram: Corsair 1gb dd4 400
Hdd: Raptor 36GB Sata 10k RPM
DVD: PLextor PX716A
Cooling: Koolance Exos 2

I'm going to be adding another stick of ram, and one more raptor in raid array, maybe two slave harddrives for storage in a month. I'll make sure to benchmark this for you guys =P.

 

[Fresh Daemon]

Fresh Daemon; from what i've heard so far you can overclock the fx-57 to 3ghz with air cooling no problem

Yes, I know, hence why I said I didn't think you'd break 3GHz. It seems that the Venice/San Diego cores top out at around that speed, more needs extreme cooling, and with the A64's water won't do much that high-end air won't, unlike Prescotts. You might get lucky, and kudos if you do, I'm just saying don't count on getting more than 3GHz.

Ram: Corsair 1gb dd4 400

Did you check that on dfi-street first? DFI seems to have a lot of problems with Corsair RAM for some reason.

 

[DoItOnLAN]

I didn't hear about the dfi board having problems with anything, that's why i got it (well I lied, I got it because it was the best) =P Thanks for the heads up, well it looks like we'll have to test out and see what I can pull off with the 57. Oh yeah and this machine was supposed to have the r520 chipset in it, but ati was too slow, not to mention its not the same card it was a few months ago. So I'll probably upgrade when the r580 or r600 hits shelves and sell my 7800.

 

[Furen]

the DFI mobo has problems with Corsair value, which is horrible, by the way. You should be able to hit 3GHz easy with your fx, but you might need a small vcore bump.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Fresh Daemon

Fresh Daemon; from what i've heard so far you can overclock the fx-57 to 3ghz with air cooling no problem

Yes, I know, hence why I said I didn't think you'd break 3GHz. It seems that the Venice/San Diego cores top out at around that speed, more needs extreme cooling, and with the A64's water won't do much that high-end air won't, unlike Prescotts. You might get lucky, and kudos if you do, I'm just saying don't count on getting more than 3GHz.

Ram: Corsair 1gb dd4 400

Did you check that on dfi-street first? DFI seems to have a lot of problems with Corsair RAM for some reason.

I can confirm that, the DFI Nforce 4 series runs like total crap on corsair value select and even some XMS.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Fresh Daemon
Based on what I have seen I don't think you will break 3GHz. That usually requires sub-zero cooling and a lot of voltage. I'd say that 2.8-2.9GHz is reasonable though. I would expect a nice overclock on the 7800 as well, probably 500MHz or over on the core. You won't get much noise. It will run BF2 at a very high resolution with eye candy. You will be happy. There will be celebrations as Far Cry runs flawlessly with HDR, and the Lord will grin, and the people will feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats...

Edit: What mobo are you using? It better be DFI!

Uhh, the FX-57 is already at 2800 default so he better get 2800 on watercooling

I have a X2 4400+ and a BFG 7800GTX OC and they are 2750 1.55vcore (cpu) and my 7800GTX is at 521core and 1420memory and I have an older watercooling rig so I imagine you should definitely be over 3ghtrz and 520 1400.

Edit: I am just joking with you Fresh Daemon so please don't be offended, LOL. It just struck me that it wouldn't be surprising if soon we had to have watercooling for everything at default specs. Of course with Intel's Performance per Watt crap they are trying to gloss over their lower performance but better efficiency so we shall see.

 

[Bona Fide]

Why did you cheap out on the hard drive and RAM? If you plan to game, plan on getting another 1GB of memory. And that 36GB is going to disappear really fast.

That said, the Exos-2 looks awesome and I hear it performs just as well. You should see around 3.2GHz just by raising the [unlocked] multiplier and increasing the voltage. By raising the FSB, maybe you could get 3.3-3.4GHz. But that would run pretty hot.

Coupled with a 7800GTX, I would say you should be able to play 1600x1200 full settings full AA full AF for just about any game out.

 

[DoItOnLAN]

Bona fide: I already plan on ordering another raptor to run in raid, along with with two large ides, and don't forget another 1gb stick of ram. I didn't want to charge more than my credit card would let me at the moment, so I'll probably have to wait til early next month for that =/

 

[BigCoolJesus]

Originally posted by: DoItOnLAN
Bona fide: I already plan on ordering another raptor to run in raid, along with with two large ides, and don't forget another 1gb stick of ram. I didn't want to charge more than my credit card would let me at the moment, so I'll probably have to wait til early next month for that =/

dont RAID the raptors, they preform worse (the 36 GB ones do, not the 74 GB ones) and they WILL FAIL within 6 months (my raided raptors failed 3 times in 7 months)


also, with the FX-57 you should EASILY rech 3.0GHz, but im unfimiliar with the 7800GTX

 

[Hacp]

Who knows, maybe you can get 3.2-3.3 on water if you have a miricle chip. 3.2 FX-57 Vs. 3.2 P4=no contest.

 

[DoItOnLAN]

Running raid in the array that would be desired always has a much greater rate of failure, but 3 times in 7 months sucks ass. Were these brand new? Anyway I don't think I really need the 2.8 ghz in the first place, but when you already have way over 2 grand into a computer, why not?

Anyone know any good multiplier/mhz amounts for this cpu + water cooling?

 

[Fresh Daemon]

Alright, let's clear some things up.

San Diego cores cannot reliably be made to run at 3GHz without a lot of voltage and/or extreme cooling (water cooling is no longer considered extreme). If AMD could produce an FX-59 that did not require so many volts that it caused widespread premature failure, and did not require phase-change (I'm sure AMD would have no problem building a watercooling specification for a 3GHz or 3.2GHz part), then there would be an FX-59 now, because AMD does not hold back on the high-end, it holds back on the low-end.

Maybe he'll get 3GHz. Maybe he'll get nothing, or an extra 50MHz on a big vcore boost, or something. Whatever the case, it is not good that experienced forum members are telling a newcomer to the forums and to overclocking that he can and should expect a minimum extra 200MHz! That kind of talk leads to disappointment. Overclocking is a free lunch, sometimes, lunch isn't free.

In either case, DoItOnLan, you are going to enjoy this system. I would not worry about overclocking, this system will guffaw at any game currently released and rightly so.

The only thing is that RAM. Corsair and DFI just don't play well together. If you had not already bought the parts I would say, switch to OCZ, even if it costs more. As it is, try it out and if it's intolerable (not that you can't overclock it, you may not even be able to run it at stock speed and timings), sell it and get OCZ.

I already plan on ordering another raptor to run in raid

That's not a great idea. You will not notice any difference. Anand ran a test. Spend the money on more RAM or more 7200RPM storage.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Fresh Daemon
Alright, let's clear some things up.

San Diego cores cannot reliably be made to run at 3GHz without a lot of voltage and/or extreme cooling (water cooling is no longer considered extreme). If AMD could produce an FX-59 that did not require so many volts that it caused widespread premature failure, and did not require phase-change (I'm sure AMD would have no problem building a watercooling specification for a 3GHz or 3.2GHz part), then there would be an FX-59 now, because AMD does not hold back on the high-end, it holds back on the low-end.

Maybe he'll get 3GHz. Maybe he'll get nothing, or an extra 50MHz on a big vcore boost, or something. Whatever the case, it is not good that experienced forum members are telling a newcomer to the forums and to overclocking that he can and should expect a minimum extra 200MHz! That kind of talk leads to disappointment. Overclocking is a free lunch, sometimes, lunch isn't free.

In either case, DoItOnLan, you are going to enjoy this system. I would not worry about overclocking, this system will guffaw at any game currently released and rightly so.

The only thing is that RAM. Corsair and DFI just don't play well together. If you had not already bought the parts I would say, switch to OCZ, even if it costs more. As it is, try it out and if it's intolerable (not that you can't overclock it, you may not even be able to run it at stock speed and timings), sell it and get OCZ.

I already plan on ordering another raptor to run in raid

That's not a great idea. You will not notice any difference. Anand ran a test. Spend the money on more RAM or more 7200RPM storage.

Yes, but my response was to your post that he should get 2800-2900 on water cooling. I found it amusing (not insultingly toward you!) that you stated him getting default clock stable on water cooling as reasonable. I personally agree with you about overclocking. It is a game of chance and silicon luck. Maybe the switches are on and maybe they are off but either way I am happy with my 2750 X2 4400+ watercooled. It is noisy though even watercooled so I am thinking about going down to 2640 where it can run quietly. HMMMM. It is all a balancing act of noise voltages and stability. Power to the overclocker

 

[Heckler 5th]

call newegg and change that RAM ASAP!

get two of these.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227209

run em at DDR400 2-3-2-X, and your cpu hopefully at 200x14 (2.8GHz) or 200x15 (3GHz). then you'll be set.

if you want RAID, check out the inexpensive hitachi SATAII drives for that motherboard.

edit: what power supply will you be using? (very important)

 

[bjc112]

San Diego cores cannot reliably be made to run at 3GHz without a lot of voltage and/or extreme cooling (water cooling is no longer considered extreme). If AMD could produce an FX-59 that did not require so many volts that it caused widespread premature failure, and did not require phase-change (I'm sure AMD would have no problem building a watercooling specification for a 3GHz or 3.2GHz part), then there would be an FX-59 now, because AMD does not hold back on the high-end, it holds back on the low-end.

AMD hasn't release a FX-59 because it doesn't NEED to. PERIOD.

@ 2.8ghz Intel doesn't have a single core challenger.

Why put a FX-59 out @ 3.0ghz and steal sale away from the FX-57 and 55??

It's pointless.




And DoitonLan,

I would personally call newegg, swap that FX-57 for a 4800+.

Overclock that to @ least 2.6ghz (conservative) on water and you have equiv. systems, but now a additional core.

 

[BigCoolJesus]

As someone already asked, what power supply will you be getting?

You CANNOT skimp out on the psu, you must go for a good one (espacially on this system)

id reccomend either an S12 Seasonic (500 or 600W, whichever you prefer), PCP&C, OCZ powerstream, or a Enermax Noisetaker.......

either way, make sure you have AT LEAST 28A on the 12v rail (if its dual, add up the rails, and make sure there over 28 combined)

 

[Fresh Daemon]

AMD hasn't release a FX-59 because it doesn't NEED to. PERIOD.

It doesn't NEED to. You don't NEED to have a computer either. An Fx-59 would make money for AMD.

Why put a FX-59 out @ 3.0ghz and steal sale away from the FX-57 and 55??

Why put an FX-57 out and steal sales away from the FX-55 and FX-53, which they already did? Hmmm?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Fresh Daemon

AMD hasn't release a FX-59 because it doesn't NEED to. PERIOD.

It doesn't NEED to. You don't NEED to have a computer either. An Fx-59 would make money for AMD.

Why put a FX-59 out @ 3.0ghz and steal sale away from the FX-57 and 55??

Why put an FX-57 out and steal sales away from the FX-55 and FX-53, which they already did? Hmmm?

Considering it was over a year between the FX55 and 57, I would say they maximized there FX 55 sales and then went faster..

Obviously everyone wants 3ghz from AMD, hell even 4, but that doesn't mean AMD NEEDS to release it.

That's like releasing a FX57 today and a week later releasing a FX 59, it would make no sense from a business standpoint.

 

[Elfear]

Ocing is definetely a crapshoot but I'd think 2.9-3GHz is reasonable for a 24/7 stable rig.

OP- I'd head over to the forums on Xtremesystems.org. Those guys are just like the name of their site implies. You'll get a lot of good information like which multi seems to work best and dram settings for that DFI (which are a pain to get nailed down).

Just be aware that most of the crazy results you see are suicide shots unless otherwise stated. Expectations for a 24/7 stable rig will be a lot lower than most of the screenshots you'll see. Just an FYI so you don't get your hopes up and then realize that there's no way you can match those guys' results.

Nice rig by the way.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I have had 2 36 gig raptors at 10,000rpm running in Raid0 for over a year now with no problems whatsoever!!

Nice system!!!

 

[DoItOnLAN]

Heckler: I think its too late for me to have them change the ram, its already on its way ups.

Fresh Daemon: the improvements from the 53 to 55 were unsatisfactory compared to the 57, at this moment there isn't as much to improve on until 64-bit computing for software is used more (which is happenening exponentialy)

Screw dual core for this rig, I'm a gamer period ^_^ The overclocking is only because its that good of a rig, and it makes it so nice to mock all of your friends. Not most. All of them =P

Do you think a antec 480 true power would be sufficient? I happen to have one sitting around, otherwise I'll go purchase something different.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: DoItOnLAN
Heckler: I think its too late for me to have them change the ram, its already on its way ups.

Fresh Daemon: the improvements from the 53 to 55 were unsatisfactory compared to the 57, at this moment there isn't as much to improve on until 64-bit computing for software is used more (which is happenening exponentialy)

Screw dual core for this rig, I'm a gamer period ^_^ The overclocking is only because its that good of a rig, and it makes it so nice to mock all of your friends. Not most. All of them =P

Do you think a antec 480 true power would be sufficient? I happen to have one sitting around, otherwise I'll go purchase something different.

If you got that 4800+ @ 2.8ghz you would have 2 FX 57's.. Hell get them to 2.6 and the trade off would be worth it.

That Antec 480 should hold just fine..

Runs my system without issue, pretty solid rails on it as well.