P5W DH temperature

[NL mkII]

Throughout my childhood I loved the idea of building myself a pc, now that I have a decent job I finally had the cash to do it!!!

After about 3 weeks of reading up everything I could I plumped for the following system
(note that I havent included the dvd drive, the one I bought for this system arrived broken so I am currently using my old drive and considering other options)

Antec P180 case
Core 2 Duo E6600
P5W DH Deluxe
250gig Sata II Western Digital
Adata DDR2 800mhz 2x1gig
ATI X1650pro (waiting till Vista before buying a top DirectX 10 gpu)
Antec True Power Trio 550w
Katana Scythe Heatsink/fan


Now Ive searched around for a few hours trying to find out about temperatures that the various components can safely run at and I'm really struggling (I don't like to just post on a forum if I can find it out myself).

The readings I am getting from PC Probe are
cpu 35c
mb 45c
this is not under load

If I then use the AI booster to overclock 30% the temperatures have gone up to
cpu 44c
mb 58c
this is when putting the pc under a reasonably high load (i.e. Company of Heroes)

So my questions are
1. Are these temperatures normal or should I be worried?
2. Is adding another fan on the front going to reduce the temperature substantially?

I suppose I should also ask if my choice of a Katana Scythe was a little amateur and if there are any other ways of reducing mb temperature.



Sheridan Halls - Eternal fan of Leroy Jenkins

 

[Skott]

Ok, first of all most folks are using CoreTemp now since its more accurate for temp reporting. C2D chips run hotter as do the mobos they work on. PC Probe is known to be inaccurate with C2D chips. Also many people are pulling the NB and SB heatsinks caps off the ASUS 965 and 570 mobos, This will greatly help reduce temps. Another step is to pull the heatsinks off completely and replace the thermal paste with AS5. This will help reduce temps even more. For more info and tips please look in the Motherboard section. You'll see an official sticky thread concerning the P5W DH mobo and everything you need to know. The XS website also has a couple of threads on how-tos with this mobo.

 

[NL mkII]

So Ive installed and run Core Temp Beta 0.93 and displayed the following figures

Tjunction 85c
Core #0 47c
Core #1 45c

and under load
Tjunction 85c
Core #0 51c
Core #1 47c

Is this all reasonably fine?

also is my motherboard temperature correctly shown by pc probe and is this a reasonble motherboard temperature?

 

[LouPoir]

Looks good

 

[LittleNemoNES]

temps are a wee bit high on idle but you are ok

 

[Canai]

Your mobo hitting 58ºC is a little high.. mine never breaks 35º under load... (and thats with a >40% fsb OC)

PS: don't use ai booster. OC manually if anything.

 

[NL mkII]

ok, this is for all you guys who enjoy a bit of irony...

Ive spent hours days and weeks trying to get this system together, up and running and in tip top shape. Last night a mate I live with asks if he can use my pc for a bit as he wants to check up something on wikipedia, so I say "ok but don't go on to any of those 'lady' sites you are so fond of as I haven't had time to install antivirus yet" (I havent been using the net myself as Ive been busy with other stuff). He says ok, and completely ignores me, and goes on to various porn sites. I walk upstairs and is sitting at the pc looking a little worried when I walk in the room. My pc is now riddled with viruses and I cant open a single file.... even in safe mode! Gonna have to get some kind of technician round to sort out this mess...

If anyone wants a quick job I'm paying £50 a time to anyone who slaps him round the chops with a ripe wet salmon!


Anyways, I've decided to go for the advice skott gave and get myself all the stuff delivered to sort out the cooling on the motherboard using this little guide

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563

I'll do a little research and may repaste my cpu too, not sure how good the stuff that comes with the Katana Scythe will be!


Sheridan - No honestly, fifty quid to anyone who slaps Steve with a fish based product

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: NL mkII

ok, this is for all you guys who enjoy a bit of irony...

Ive spent hours days and weeks trying to get this system together, up and running and in tip top shape. Last night a mate I live with asks if he can use my pc for a bit as he wants to check up something on wikipedia, so I say "ok but don't go on to any of those 'lady' sites you are so fond of as I haven't had time to install antivirus yet" (I havent been using the net myself as Ive been busy with other stuff). He says ok, and completely ignores me, and goes on to various porn sites. I walk upstairs and is sitting at the pc looking a little worried when I walk in the room. My pc is now riddled with viruses and I cant open a single file.... even in safe mode! Gonna have to get some kind of technician round to sort out this mess...

If anyone wants a quick job I'm paying £50 a time to anyone who slaps him round the chops with a ripe wet salmon!


Anyways, I've decided to go for the advice skott gave and get myself all the stuff delivered to sort out the cooling on the motherboard using this little guide

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563

I'll do a little research and may repaste my cpu too, not sure how good the stuff that comes with the Katana Scythe will be!


Sheridan - No honestly, fifty quid to anyone who slaps Steve with a fish based product

lol nasty pervert! wipe the keyboard with some alcohol ::barf::
I'd never let him touch my PC ever again.

 

[coolingoff]

For the ASUS P5W, the temperature sensor on the motherboard is in an awkward palce, which is why your getting those high readings.
Acording to the ASUS website tempertaures lower than 60C are fine (for the P5W)

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: NL mkII


lol nasty pervert! wipe the keyboard with some alcohol ::barf::
I'd never let him touch my PC ever again.

Take him outside and behind the building and beat him with 2x4 as well. If he's truly your friend he'll understand why. LOL

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Skott

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: NL mkII


lol nasty pervert! wipe the keyboard with some alcohol ::barf::
I'd never let him touch my PC ever again.

Take him outside and behind the building and beat him with 2x4 as well. If he's truly your friend he'll understand why. LOL

I don't know...he might be turned on by the use of a large stick
<_<
>_>

 

[NL mkII]

HAHA Skott, he actually sent me a text message saying "you will be completely within your rights if you want to punch me later". Sadly for me, gersson was right, I pulled out a bar to beat him with and he developed a bar of his own! It was not pretty.

Anyway...
Despite pretending he didn't look at anything untoward for the first few minutes (which caused me to erupt in an explosion of expletives of Krakatoan proportions), he is now being good about it and said he is happy to pay for any damage. The computer shop down the road quoted me £40 to get the data off the Hard drive so I can reinstall Windows, but that sounds ridiculously pricey to me, so I've told them to screw themselves and I'm gonna try and either do it myself or get the work IT department to sort it.... wish me luck!

 

[Skott]

He'll pay for damages? Ah, redemption! A good friend afterall. The 40pounds is probably their regular service price. Often here in the States you'll see shops charge a minimum service charge of 25$ or more. That usually covers a quick diagnostic look and covers maybe the first 30min-60min worth of work. If they do more than that (actually replace things) then the minimum price is just folded into the total price. My guess is worse case scenario of wiping drive and reinstall of O/S and software to ensure all bugs gone. On the lighter side they run a bunch of antiviral software and check registry and such things. After backing everything up of course.

 

[NL mkII]

They were charging £80 an hour, and said it would take half an hour, but basically all I asked them to do is get the files I needed off the drive and on to a dvd, I would do the rest myself. I suppose its not such a bad price really, there is no reason they should work for peanuts, I'm just a bit of a tightass and didnt want to pay more than £25

 

[NL mkII]

Ive just installed AS5 on the Northbridge and Southbridge and removed the caps... hopefully I havent screwed it up in some way and later on I will have a working pc!

wish me luck

 

[ramsub]

I just built a new system with the following config:

Raidmax X1 case with 450W PS
ASUS P5WDH motherboard
E6600 CPU
Corsair 2GB memory (VS2GBKIT667D2)
Gigabyte GEFORCE 7600GS graphics
Seagate 300GB SATA300 HDD
NEC16x DVD R/W IDE

I am NooB on OC!

Using Speedfan (and PC PROBE II), the temperatures on the MB seems to be in the 50degC range. MY CPU temp is around 35degC. This is with an idle system but 10% overclocking. There is a temp monitor built into the case which I have placed so that it is touching the NB case. This temperature seems to match what speedfan is telling me.

Is this too high? How high can the MB (or NB) temp go before I start worrying? The rear fan that came with the case has only 2 wires and is connected directly to one of the power connectors in the PS. Should I get another fan for the front of the case?

I really would like to overclock this (which is why I bought P5WDH).

Thanks for any help.

Ram

 

[pkme2]

If that was your main computer, I would make him pay for your repairs.

If you had a cloned drive setup before and swapping that would have taken 15 minutes.

I store all my important files on second harddrive with all my URL links, email addresses just in case my main ever goes kaput.

Most don't think of this until everything goes wrong. Spare HDDs are so cheap with the "new" computer pulls, it makes sense to get a few. You always can sell the extras to friends and make back expenses.

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: ramsub
I just built a new system with the following config:

Raidmax X1 case with 450W PS
ASUS P5WDH motherboard
E6600 CPU
Corsair 2GB memory (VS2GBKIT667D2)
Gigabyte GEFORCE 7600GS graphics
Seagate 300GB SATA300 HDD
NEC16x DVD R/W IDE

I am NooB on OC!

Using Speedfan (and PC PROBE II), the temperatures on the MB seems to be in the 50degC range. MY CPU temp is around 35degC. This is with an idle system but 10% overclocking. There is a temp monitor built into the case which I have placed so that it is touching the NB case. This temperature seems to match what speedfan is telling me.

Is this too high? How high can the MB (or NB) temp go before I start worrying? The rear fan that came with the case has only 2 wires and is connected directly to one of the power connectors in the PS. Should I get another fan for the front of the case?

I really would like to overclock this (which is why I bought P5WDH).

Thanks for any help.

Ram

Use CoreTemp as your official guage. its the most accurate for Conroe chips. If I'm reading this correctly you only have one case fan and its in the rear? If so I'd definetely get a intake fan installed as well. Up front or in the side. Both may be advisiable if your case allows for it.

 

[ramsub]

The case did come with a side intake fan (a small one). But the case will allow a front intake fan. I will get one. Any suggestion on a decent silent fan?

Thanks,

Ram

 

[Skott]

Yate Loons are very popular and not expensive. I really like the Enermax Enlobal fans right now. Very quiet. More expensive than YLs though. When I bought mine they were going for $9-$10 each on the net but I spent $12 and got them sleeved from PerformancePCs. I figure $24 was worth having the very quiet performance.

 

[ramsub]

I finally go back to testing my system OC abilities and it does not look good.

Raidmax X1 case with 450W PS
ASUS P5WDH motherboard
E6600 CPU
Corsair 2GB memory (VS2GBKIT667D2)
Gigabyte GEFORCE 7600GS graphics
Seagate 300GB SATA300 HDD
NEC16x DVD R/W IDE

When I use AI booster to run the FSB at 300 with a multiplier of 9, under idle condition, the CPU temps are 56 & 57 deg C (using CoreTemp). The system temperature is at 38degC. I have already followed the procedure to take the heat sink off of NB, SB and CPU and put replaced it with AS5 heatsink compund. I am using the stock CPU heatsink. I have 3 fans in the case now, one in the front, 1 in the back and 1 on the side.

The temps look too high under idle. What should I do? Also, I have seen threads that say that I should do everything manually. What would be a good setting to try? I am not looking for max OC.

Thanks,

Ramsub