PA GOP Senate primary drama

[gothuevos]

McCormick campaign files lawsuit to count mail-in ballots with undated envelopes

Pennsylvania Senate candidate David McCormick’s campaign is pushing for additional ballots to be counted in the state’s GOP primary results, according to a lawsuit filed Monday. The lawsuit p…

thehill.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528919147387703297

Basically, McCormick is suing to count all appropriate absentee and mail-in ballots, first those without a signature and now those without a date. Not sure what PA election law says about this, but seems like the GOP is working against him on this.

Because we all know why a certain preferred/endorsed candidate must win. They will disenfranchise their own voters to appease him. Wow. Either that or they are working hard to continue the "vote by mail cannot be trusted" narrative.

Now imagine what's to come in November and beyond.

"Count all the ballots. But only for the candidate we prefer, and by the method we tell you to."

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

If they're not signed and/or dated, they shouldn't be counted.

 

[JWade]

it says it in the instructions, and says it also on PA's voting mail-in ballot website to sign and date or it wont be counted. Instead of saying a "preferred/endorsed candidate must win " how about someone who is losing is a sore loser and trying to find ways to win, when they arent?

 

[sportage]

Something like this happened in iOwa with the democrat candidates running to unseat old fart Chuck Grassley. One of the democrat contenders fell short to qualify for the ballot because of missing dates or missing information. The lawsuit, brought by lawyers acting for Grassley, tried to ban the candidate from qualifying. In the end the Grassley lawyers lost the challenge and the missing date issue did not matter. This could be the precedent explaining McCormick’s challenge. It just might work.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Petitions to get on the ballot have different rules than the voting ballots themselves.

IA has different rules than PA.

MI may see several candidates tossed off the ballot due to invalid signatures.

 

[DrDoug]

McCormick is suing to count the mail in ballots that the voter did not enter the date on. State law says not to count them if missing information but the McCormick camp is arguing that the ballots are postmarked with a date that should be used to validate them.

I would agree with McCormick but I'm rooting for a knock down, drag out fight anyway. 👍

 

[Bitek]

LMAO at the PA GOP who worked hard to make mail in voting difficult in order to annoy Democrats now getting screwed by it. Hahaha.

*chef's kiss*

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Fustercluck persists ......


Supreme Court temporarily blocks Pennsylvania recount
By Associated Press

The Supreme Court is temporarily blocking the counting of some mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania.

Continue reading

 

[Amol S.]

The moment one of them scream there is fraud, Democrats should just start partying in the streets.

 

[evident]

mccormick is such a creep, but so is oz. Fetterman is going to stomp either in the fall. He's a transcendental candidate IMO.

 

[pcgeek11]

Seems cut and dry to me no date no signature no count.

 

[brycejones]

Seems cut and dry to me no date no signature no count.

Yeah but you’re simple.

 

[Bitek]

mccormick is such a creep, but so is oz. Fetterman is going to stomp either in the fall. He's a transcendental candidate IMO.

I think this sometimes, especially considering both GOP are schmucks from Jersey, but then I don't trust Pennsatucky to vote D in high numbers. If any D was to pull in that vote tho, it would be Fetterman.

Other wild card is if Ds in Philly and Pittsburgh bother to show up in Nov...


Interesting race to watch

 

[evident]

I think this sometimes, especially considering both GOP are schmucks from Jersey, but then I don't trust Pennsatucky to vote D in high numbers. If any D was to pull in that vote tho, it would be Fetterman.

Other wild card is if Ds in Philly and Pittsburgh bother to show up in Nov...


Interesting race to watch

I think fetterman has the personality to grab a decent amount of pennsyltucky trump voters, especially low info voter ones who vote basically on image and being a "straight talker".

 

[emperus]

The date thing is stupid. If it arrives before the election why would it need a date? It's an attempt too disenfranchise voters by adding unnecessary rules to vote.

Edit: What is even the purpose of this rule? That if you just write a date on it and it arrives after the election, they'll count it? Yeah right. Our election system is broken and Republicans want it that way.

 

[cytg111]

STOP THE COUNT

 

[evident]

The date thing is stupid. If it arrives before the election why would it need a date? It's an attempt too disenfranchise voters by adding unnecessary rules to vote.

Edit: What is even the purpose of this rule? That if you just write a date on it and it arrives after the election, they'll count it? Yeah right. Our election system is broken and Republicans want it that way.

PA resident here. Having vote by mail here is nice but there are a tons of things designed to trip you up while voting by mail.

ex. You need to apply to vote by mail EVERY YEAR. so if I didnt apply to vote by mail at the beginning this year i'd have to go vote at the polls.
ex2. You need to sign and date the outside envelope. I printed my name vs signed it in 2020 and freaked out, so i had to go to the county board of elections and get a new ballot. there was something else really annoying you had to do as well but now i forget.

Either way, the current system was way better than the absentee system they had before. I lived overseas and couldn't even request a fucking absentee ballot because they blocked all foreign IP addresses. I used a VPN, and when i finally got the ballot they ask you things like whether or not you got authorization from my boss to vote. and they word it in a way to discourage you from absentee voting.

 

[dullard]

Seems cut and dry to me no date no signature no count.

It sounds cut and dry on the surface. But our constitution and federal laws state otherwise.

Constitution Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 : "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators. "

Now what law did Congress make? Laws like the Civil Rights Act.
§10101. Voting rights (a)(2)(b) "No person acting under color of law shall...deny the right of any individual to vote in any election because of an error or omission on any record or paper relating to any application, registration, or other act requisite to voting, if such error or omission is not material in determining whether such individual is qualified under State law to vote in such election"

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:10101%20edition:prelim

Since the missing information is not actually used anywhere, it is not material and therefore by law allowed by the US constitution, the ballots must be counted.

 

[Brainonska511]

It sounds cut and dry on the surface. But our constitution and federal laws state otherwise.

Constitution Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 : "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators. "

Now what law did Congress make? Laws like the Civil Rights Act.
§10101. Voting rights (a)(2)(b) "No person acting under color of law shall...deny the right of any individual to vote in any election because of an error or omission on any record or paper relating to any application, registration, or other act requisite to voting, if such error or omission is not material in determining whether such individual is qualified under State law to vote in such election"

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:10101%20edition:prelim

Since the missing information is not actually used anywhere, it is not material and therefore by law allowed by the US constitution, the ballots must be counted.

One article I saw had election officials stating that ballots that were misdated would be counted if they arrived before the deadline, further highlighting the immaterial nature of adding the date to the envelope.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yeah but you’re simple.

Just follow the law. Easy peasy.

 

[pcgeek11]

The date thing is stupid. If it arrives before the election why would it need a date? It's an attempt too disenfranchise voters by adding unnecessary rules to vote.

Edit: What is even the purpose of this rule? That if you just write a date on it and it arrives after the election, they'll count it? Yeah right. Our election system is broken and Republicans want it that way.

Why? Because that is what the law states is required for a vote to be counted. Voters need to comply with the law or get the law changed legally. You can't change the law after the election.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ Really? So all of the voting law changes that were made after elections in PA, FL, GA, TX and other places aren't allowed?

 

[JEDI]

McCormick campaign files lawsuit to count mail-in ballots with undated envelopes

Pennsylvania Senate candidate David McCormick’s campaign is pushing for additional ballots to be counted in the state’s GOP primary results, according to a lawsuit filed Monday. The lawsuit p…

thehill.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528919147387703297

Basically, McCormick is suing to count all appropriate absentee and mail-in ballots, first those without a signature and now those without a date. Not sure what PA election law says about this, but seems like the GOP is working against him on this.

Because we all know why a certain preferred/endorsed candidate must win. They will disenfranchise their own voters to appease him. Wow. Either that or they are working hard to continue the "vote by mail cannot be trusted" narrative.

Now imagine what's to come in November and beyond.

"Count all the ballots. But only for the candidate we prefer, and by the method we tell you to."

McCornmick concedes:

McCormick concedes to Oz in Pennsylvania GOP Senate primary - WTOP News

Former hedge fund CEO David McCormick conceded the Republican primary in Pennsylvania for U.S. Senate to celebrity heart surgeon Dr. Mehmet Oz, ending his campaign Friday night as he acknowledged an ongoing statewide recount wouldn’t give him enough votes to make up the deficit.

wtop.com

so Dems now face Oz, the easier of the 2 that they can beat

 

[Lezunto]

Oz is the winner? Geez.

Swallow two crushed pelican beaks and call us in the morning.

 

[pcgeek11]

McCornmick concedes:

McCormick concedes to Oz in Pennsylvania GOP Senate primary - WTOP News

Former hedge fund CEO David McCormick conceded the Republican primary in Pennsylvania for U.S. Senate to celebrity heart surgeon Dr. Mehmet Oz, ending his campaign Friday night as he acknowledged an ongoing statewide recount wouldn’t give him enough votes to make up the deficit.

wtop.com

so Dems now face Oz, the easier of the 2 that they can beat

My Grandmother always told me I shouldn't count the chickens before they hatch.