PA primary thread

[ProfJohn]

Big day tomorrow.

Could be the end of Hillary or another 6 weeks of winter for the Democrats.

I am guessing that Hillary wins by perhaps 5 points, maybe more.

If she doesn't win by at least 3+ points I think it will be the end of her campaign. There will be so much pressure for her to get out at that point.




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[Lemon law]

Why post this now? In 24 hours we will have the only poll that matters. Plenty of time to do the post mortums then.

Now or six weeks from now, the dems will chase all trolls to the underside of the Republirat bridge. As for me, I can wait.

 

[nageov3t]

Hillary by under 10.

she'll proclaim it as a great victory (come back kid?), Obama will call it a distraction and add it to his list of things we're not supposed to be caring about, the media will question whether Obama can win white, working class states in the GE, and nothing will really change.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Hillary by 5+, unfortunately. I'd like PA to be her death knell but that's unlikely to happen, though her recent comment about nuking Iran if it nuked Israel may have lost her a couple of points.

 

[jpeyton]

Anything short of a double-digit victory will add to the chorus of people asking her to quit.

Anything short of a 20+ point win won't be enough to fix her math problem.

She's effed either way. Today's polls put her at +7 points, but those polls skew towards older demographics and don't take into account the tens of thousands of college-aged voters that registered in drives in the past week.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: loki8481
Hillary by under 10.

she'll proclaim it as a great victory (come back kid?), Obama will call it a distraction and add it to his list of things we're not supposed to be caring about, the media will question whether Obama can win white, working class states in the GE, and nothing will really change.

QFT, except the media you mention is the Clinton side of the media. Meaning the side that isn't begging to have obama's baby(they'd love to be punished )

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anything will add to the chorus of people asking her to quit.

fixed

she could win by 30 points and the Obamaphites would still look at the results and pull out a reason why they indicate that she should quit.

 

[Lemon law]

Cheer up silly rabbit Republirats, no one will suggest that McCain should quit while he is doomed.

 

[DrPizza]

I think Obama may come out with a victory - unless the pollsters have been hitting the college aged kids as well.

 

[fskimospy]

My bet is Hillary, but by well under 5. Honestly it doesn't matter what she gets at this point though as she's already lost. (she lost a good month ago really) Loki8481, the reason why it still wouldn't matter if she won by 30 points is that she'd still be losing in delegates by a substantial number.

It is true though that about 100,000 new people registered recently for this primary, most of them probably in Obama's demographics. I'm counting on them to keep things close, and I'll still be crossing my fingers for an Obama victory. No amount of tenacity could keep Hillary in the race after that.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Big day tomorrow.

Could be the end of Hillary or another 6 weeks of winter for the Democrats.

We call it democracy, such as it it. You should really look into it.

That whole King George/Unitary Presidency thing is so Pinochet/Cheney/Der Vaterland/Passe.

 

[palehorse]

Is Obama Beer made from "Obama barley"?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Is Obama Beer made from "Obama barley"?

I believe it's made from hope, rainbows, and a single tear from a native american.

 

[Starbuck1975]

she could win by 30 points and the Obamaphites would still look at the results and pull out a reason why they indicate that she should quit.

That's not the point...her campaign was essentially dead in the water weeks ago...the media, and the fact that she is a woman and a Clinton, is why she is still campaigning...hoping for Obama to make a blunder of epic proportions that will swing things her way.

She will win by 5 to 10 points, it will not be enough to sway the superdelegates, and they will answer Dean's call to put an end to this charade.

 

[b0mbrman]

She'll win by 8.9% and she should not pull out

 

[JSt0rm]

I think obama will win barely and she wont get out no matter what.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

she could win by 30 points and the Obamaphites would still look at the results and pull out a reason why they indicate that she should quit.

That's not the point...her campaign was essentially dead in the water weeks ago...the media, and the fact that she is a woman and a Clinton, is why she is still campaigning...hoping for Obama to make a blunder of epic proportions that will swing things her way.

She will win by 5 to 10 points, it will not be enough to sway the superdelegates, and they will answer Dean's call to put an end to this charade.

her campaign was dead in the water on February 6th. she really hasn't had a chance.

it's just a question of what's more important -- the democratic party or not giving up on your ambition.

 

[miketheidiot]

hilllary by under 5 and she won't get out

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I think Obama may come out with a victory - unless the pollsters have been hitting the college aged kids as well.

Oh man, I know the candidates have been nuts about the Erie, PA region. Hillary was at a nearby college a few weeks ago, and Ted Kennedy and Obama were here within the past two weeks.
Oh, and Bill Clinton was also here in that timeframe.

I intend to go to the polls tomorrow, and enjoy the waterboarding of voting for the one who will hopefully screw us over less than the others. I just know that every time I accidentally come upon a political ad anywhere, I feel like throwing up a little bit.

I had a flier for Hillary jammed into my screen door when I got home. Apparently she's going to somehow fix the economy, end our dependence on foreign oil, and give tax cuts. I think she's also got a bridge for sale, and is accepting Western Union wire transfers as payment.

Ted Kennedy must have had useful things to blather about (he was doing a sales pitch for Obama), as he seemed to have a lot of things to yell about. If it's worth yelling about, it must be important.

Obama - his TV spots were all I saw snippets of. Apparently he's also going to end our dependence on foreign oil.

I think I'd vote for the candidate who just offered to shut the hell up and stop yammering on like a lobotomized weasel.

 

[Aimster]

I want Hilary to win

She has Obama beat on Capital Gains tax.

 

[superstition]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think obama will win barley and she wont get out no matter what.

I agree absolutely.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Anything will add to the chorus of people asking her to quit.

fixed

she could win by 30 points and the Obamaphites would still look at the results and pull out a reason why they indicate that she should quit.

She will win by 13 points and she should not quit

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I think Obama may come out with a victory - unless the pollsters have been hitting the college aged kids as well.

Standard polling hides college-aged kids, but the smart pollsters have been adjusting up since Obama starting turning them out in big numbers.

What pollsters have even more trouble reflecting are the effects of a political machine.

 

[superstition]

College kids are notorious for not following through by actually showing up and voting, by the way.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: superstition
College kids are notorious for not following through by actually showing up and voting, by the way.

Exactly. That's why everyone called Obama a fool for wasting so many resources courting college (and even high school) kids in Iowa. His inexperience definitely showed when he made that mistake.

But back to PA. She'll win by 8.9% and she should not get out

Stamp it...

 

[dmcowen674]

Where is:

Doesn't matter, McCain wins oval office easily?