Why is this movie not the #1 movie of the summer? It has all that is needed to be the perfect summer movie! Is it because there have been so many mediocre movies this season, all pretty much flopped? This summer I have only seen Star Trek, Red 2 and Pacific Rim. I pretty much knew Z was gonna tank and have no interest in the lone ranger. man, PR is the perfect summer movie! Looking forward to kick-ass 2!
They should've picked a different Japanese actress.
Why? I thought she was effective.
Hearing her talk was like watching a asian porn vid. Voice was terrible, and her acting consisted of staring blankly with some crying here and there.
Best movie ever? No. But it's the best overall movie I have seen in the last few years.
Saw it Saturday. Best movie of the year so far, IMO. This is what Transformers should have been.
Most of the "flaws" that people keep pointing out were intentionally added as homage to the genre. The solid iron no alloys thing, the "fully analog" jaeger, etc. I loved that the fights involved different tactics and weapons, it wasn't just giant robots and monsters pounding each other constantly. I loved the way the story progressed, and how the movie got you up to speed with the current setting so many years after the war started.
On top of all that, it's a goddamned original movie. I enjoyed Star Trek, I enjoyed Iron Man 3, I enjoyed Man of Steel, but dammit I am getting so sick of every single movie being a remake or rehash of some story that has already been told. Pacific Rim draws inspiration from anime, but the story and characters are unique and new, for once.
Best movie ever? No. But it's the best overall movie I have seen in the last few years.
edit: Also, this movie actually makes 3D worthwhile. Since Avatar I haven't seen another movie that really justifies the cost of Imax 3D, until now.
I don't understand this post. Every fight used the same weapons. They fight each other for a bit, punch each other, throw each other around, and then plasma cannon comes out and starts blasting.
The sword was new, but completely predictable. It totally WAS just about giant robots punching each other. Exactly what new "tactics" were used? New weapons aren't tactics.
And how are the characters unique?
The main character is the cocky and arrogant bond haired pilot, has a falling out, and then comes back to save the day. While the co-pilot is the technically accomplished but inexperienced rookie. And then you have the guy that hates the main character because he is a rival and but then learns to accept him, and finally the guy in charge who is tough but fair.
This is like the most generic cast listing for a action movie of this type ever.
I don't understand this post. Every fight used the same weapons. They fight each other for a bit, punch each other, throw each other around, and then plasma cannon comes out and starts blasting.
And how are the characters unique?
The main character is the cocky and arrogant bond haired pilot, has a falling out, and then comes back to save the day. While the co-pilot is the technically accomplished but inexperienced rookie. And then you have the guy that hates the main character because he is a rival and but then learns to accept him, and finally the guy in charge who is tough but fair.
This is like the most generic cast listing for a action movie of this type ever.
What in the world have you been watching in the last few years?
What was I supposed to see? Whats your list of "better than Pacific Rim" movies for the last year?
Not many movies make me look around inside the theater. PBtP was one of them.Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, Despicable Me 2, World War Z, Star Trek, Warm Bodies, Side Effects, Place Beyond the Pines, Evil Dead, Great Gatsby, This Is the End, The Worlds End. Those are all unquestionably better than Pacific Rim.
Not many movies make me look around inside the theater. PBtP was one of them.
I preferred Pacific Rim to Despicable Me 2, as well.
I see what the problem is, you fell asleep in the first 20 minutes and missed the rest of the movie. No wonder you didn't enjoy it.
In the first fight, only plasma was used, and the monster just fought with it's claws or head.
In the next fight, the monsters use an acid spit to destroy Cherno Alpha's passenger shielding. Another monster uses an EMP to disable Eureka Striker.
Gipsy danger uses a freaking battleship as a club, and then coolant as a weapon to freeze and destroy monster's prenhsible tail and/or tentacle. The monster later reveals itslef to have massive wings, which it uses to turn gravity into a weapon against gipsy. Eventually gipsy danger reveals a sword and destroys the monster.
Lets list the weapons.
1 monster claws, punches, plasma (basic stuff you said was the ONLY things used)
2 acid spit
3 EMP burst
4 A battleship
5 coolant
6 monster tentacle/tail
7 wings
8 giant robot sword
How the hell do you get "Every fight used the same weapons"?! That is completely false, you are either blind or you didn't even actually go see the movie.
And I didn't even get into the last scene.
Okay, so you can summarize his personality. What character anywhere has a personality that can't be summarized in a paragraph? None. You are making a nonsense argument.
The characters were unique because they were made specifically for the movie. They have never existed before. Unlike Superman, unlike Ironman, unlike the whole damn cast of Star Trek. For once, there is a big budget movie out there to see that isn't just a retelling of an old story.
Enjoyed the movie as a summer popcorn flick. It did exactly what it was intended but much better than what Mr. Bay could accomplished.
That said, there were a couple cliché that I didn't like.
1. Killing off just about every Jaeger team that's not the main hero team. I don't know why Hollywood feel it necessary for a plot device or attempt at over-dramatizing the situation. It detracts suspension of disbelief.
2. Cheap kill of an asshole character (Perlman) by a baby Kaiju. Adds absolutely nothing to the movie.
Your #2 point indicates that you did not stay for the credits.Enjoyed the movie as a summer popcorn flick. It did exactly what it was intended but much better than what Mr. Bay could accomplished.
That said, there were a couple cliché that I didn't like.
1. Killing off just about every Jaeger team that's not the main hero team. I don't know why Hollywood feel it necessary for a plot device or attempt at over-dramatizing the situation. It detracts suspension of disbelief.
2. Cheap kill of an asshole character (Perlman) by a baby Kaiju. Adds absolutely nothing to the movie.
Do I really have to do a point by point? ugh.
You see, the problem is that you see all these weapons as somehow "different". 3/4 of the weapons on this list are just variations of "hit them harder"
Just because they LOOK different doesn't mean its any more interesting to watch them used, save for the freighter ship, which I immediately thought was stupid looking because it was the size of a goddamn truck. Why does the sword come out at the EXACT LAST MOMENT. Not beforehand? Why does none of the other jaegers have the apparently such an amazing sword that it one hit KO's the kaju that the power based jaegers couldn't kill?
Certain other weapons like the EMP were stupid because it was such a plot device that never comes up again. The EMP burns out the "digital" jaegers. Okay. So, why do they suddenly stop attacking the disabled jaeger and only attack when provoked? What, do they suddenly know that the jaegers are permanently disabled and not temporarily? Such a massive plot hole. And why is it not used again. Why don't they use the EMP to shut down the jaegers during the trench fight? Why do nukes work? The kaju know that humanity has nukes and we can use them, why don't they develop a counter measure for those?
Okay lets lay out a general movie character description.
The main character is a blond young male that, earlier in life, has lost a family member that pilots a war machine. Losing that family member messes him up someway or another. After living on the edge of society for a while, he is found by a military officer/mentor figure who wants him to come join his cause, and needs to convince the somewhat unwilling main character with some inspirational talk.
The main character is cocky and headstrong and skilled in fighting, but his cockiness gets to him several times for the worse. He receives a war machine just like his previous family member to pilot.
He attempts to court a co-pilot that disapproves of his cocky attitude. The co- pilot is skilled in fighting and extremely intelligent. The Co-pilot also has trauma that is related to losing loved ones in the past and comes back to haunt him during an important time at least once in the movie.
However, circumstances appear that force the duo to work together, and they realize that they work well together and team up for the final confrontation.
Okay so, now. Am I laying out the character descriptions of Star Trek or Pacific Rim?
What personality do the characters have that's not related to the words "cocky, arrogant, past trauma" I could easily make the above more detailed and still have it apply to both movies.
You didnt stay shortly after the credits did you? because 2. gets resolved.
You also basically described Star Wars, and pretty much every other movie ever made.
The point is that certain stories work, and certain character combinations work, but you can create them in different ways. You can take Luke Skywalker, change his hair, his name, a few of his life details, the time period, the universe, and put him in a giant robot instead of an x-wing, OR you can keep everything the same and call it a sequel.
Sure, it's a bit lazy to use the same plot devices and character traits, but it's even more lazy to just put "2" at the end of the movie name.
Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, Despicable Me 2, World War Z, Star Trek, Warm Bodies, Side Effects, Place Beyond the Pines, Evil Dead, Great Gatsby, This Is the End, The Worlds End. Those are all unquestionably better than Pacific Rim.
But I thought Pacific Rim was original and creative. Star Wars and Star Trek were some of the first movies to have that plot line.
It's lazy to steal ideas and call them your own, it is less so to admit that you're following up another work.