Half assed support equals half assed results.Originally posted by: Lemon law
Now JOS and his kill kill kill policies he advocates now claims, "Don't worry, we got this regardless of what Pakistan does or doesn't do, we got this one.
You have my word.
JOS, you might have an iota of credibility in making that claim if you ever delivered the bacon, but all you have to show for it is seven years of continuous dis improvement. At least you are consistent, each and every year, victory is further and further away. At least Obama is coming up with more troops for Afghanistan, what about you Brits?
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This problem is going to be solved when Nato forces start taking Afghanistan seriously. As of now, it's still a side-show to Iraq and it remains to be seen if BO's promise of refocusing the effort in Afghanistan is going to happen or not. It's not going to be solved by depending on the beloved patriot army fat-cats who'll sell themselves to the highest bidder. So far, at any point in time, the bidders have been Americans funding the war on terror on the one side and the Saudis and other ME backers of the Taliban on the other. Other than the beloved patriot army, no one has benefited from the mayhem of Afghanistan in the last three decades.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Don't worry, we got this regardless of what Pakistan does or doesn't do, we got this one.
You have my word.
Sure we do they are just taking root in UK and laying low. Two steps forward one step back is all thats happening here.
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Now JOS and his kill kill kill policies he advocates now claims, "Don't worry, we got this regardless of what Pakistan does or doesn't do, we got this one.
You have my word.
JOS, you might have an iota of credibility in making that claim if you ever delivered the bacon, but all you have to show for it is seven years of continuous dis improvement. At least you are consistent, each and every year, victory is further and further away. At least Obama is coming up with more troops for Afghanistan, what about you Brits?
Originally posted by: Lemon law
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: tvarad
This problem is going to be solved when Nato forces start taking Afghanistan seriously. As of now, it's still a side-show to Iraq and it remains to be seen if BO's promise of refocusing the effort in Afghanistan is going to happen or not. It's not going to be solved by depending on the beloved patriot army fat-cats who'll sell themselves to the highest bidder. So far, at any point in time, the bidders have been Americans funding the war on terror on the one side and the Saudis and other ME backers of the Taliban on the other. Other than the beloved patriot army, no one has benefited from the mayhem of Afghanistan in the last three decades.
If Tvarad thinks anyone in Paksistan has profited by the US and Nato led debacle in Afghanistan, those people have to be Taliban and Al-Quida fans.
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Lemon law
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: tvarad
This problem is going to be solved when Nato forces start taking Afghanistan seriously. As of now, it's still a side-show to Iraq and it remains to be seen if BO's promise of refocusing the effort in Afghanistan is going to happen or not. It's not going to be solved by depending on the beloved patriot army fat-cats who'll sell themselves to the highest bidder. So far, at any point in time, the bidders have been Americans funding the war on terror on the one side and the Saudis and other ME backers of the Taliban on the other. Other than the beloved patriot army, no one has benefited from the mayhem of Afghanistan in the last three decades.
If Tvarad thinks anyone in Paksistan has profited by the US and Nato led debacle in Afghanistan, those people have to be Taliban and Al-Quida fans.
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
Look at that, LemonTwat suddenly remembered how to use the quote function.
I am going to have to disagree, the same areas that were under Taliban rule where four schools were bombed are still the problem, you don't get this because you're spouting off without ANY knowledge on this subject, you do that every fucking time and wonder why people are tired of hearing your constant yapping.
Get informed on the subject and i'll discuss it with you, of course, that would be impossible for you because facts aren't relevant, only the hate of NATO (and other) troops are relevant to you.
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Lemon law
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: tvarad
This problem is going to be solved when Nato forces start taking Afghanistan seriously. As of now, it's still a side-show to Iraq and it remains to be seen if BO's promise of refocusing the effort in Afghanistan is going to happen or not. It's not going to be solved by depending on the beloved patriot army fat-cats who'll sell themselves to the highest bidder. So far, at any point in time, the bidders have been Americans funding the war on terror on the one side and the Saudis and other ME backers of the Taliban on the other. Other than the beloved patriot army, no one has benefited from the mayhem of Afghanistan in the last three decades.
If Tvarad thinks anyone in Paksistan has profited by the US and Nato led debacle in Afghanistan, those people have to be Taliban and Al-Quida fans.
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
Look at that, LemonTwat suddenly remembered how to use the quote function.
I am going to have to disagree, the same areas that were under Taliban rule where four schools were bombed are still the problem, you don't get this because you're spouting off without ANY knowledge on this subject, you do that every fucking time and wonder why people are tired of hearing your constant yapping.
Get informed on the subject and i'll discuss it with you, of course, that would be impossible for you because facts aren't relevant, only the hate of NATO (and other) troops are relevant to you.
You fail to realize that there is more than just the taliban operating on the basis of "Islam" in the region. There are other equally threatening militant groups with different agendas. It's about time we declare martial law and accept that we are at war. But I guess America has different ideas and won't let us do so. To hell with freedom when you can't even have free judges. Screw it. We are a shithole.
What do you propose...internment camps? Speak up and tell us wtf you're talking about.Originally posted by: Lemon law
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
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What do you propose...internment camps? Speak up and tell us wtf you're talking about.Originally posted by: Lemon law
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
If the religious right dominates our courts to this day?then Roe v Wade would have been overturned long ago. Get real. (To all others?sorry for the slight derail here.)Originally posted by: Lemon law
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
What do you propose...internment camps? Speak up and tell us wtf you're talking about.Originally posted by: Lemon law
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
No, Doc Savage Fan, I think you totally missed my point. Pakistan has an politically active religious right just like the USA has. And Musharrif was always a secular moderate. And when Musharrif had to put down his right wing in various Mosque standoffs and national protests, Musharrif retained the political support of most of the nation. Musharrif on other issues overstayed his welcome by sacking judges and as he tried to subvert constitutional term limits, but that was a revolt of the moderates. As
TheGreenBean points out, Musharrif successor has no vision and is corrupt.
On the other hand, politically, during the GWB years, our religious right drove the politics of the US government to far to large an extent. And until Obama has a chance to appoint a few justices, the religious right dominates our courts to this day.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
What do you propose...internment camps? Speak up and tell us wtf you're talking about.Originally posted by: Lemon law
If nothing else, Pakistan under Musharrif has done a hell of a better job of keeping its religious right in check than the USA has.
No, Doc Savage Fan, I think you totally missed my point. Pakistan has an politically active religious right just like the USA has. And Musharrif was always a secular moderate. And when Musharrif had to put down his right wing in various Mosque standoffs and national protests, Musharrif retained the political support of most of the nation. Musharrif on other issues overstayed his welcome by sacking judges and as he tried to subvert constitutional term limits, but that was a revolt of the moderates. As
TheGreenBean points out, Musharrif successor has no vision and is corrupt.
On the other hand, politically, during the GWB years, our religious right drove the politics of the US government to far to large an extent. And until Obama has a chance to appoint a few justices, the religious right dominates our courts to this day.
Originally posted by: dphantom
As I predicted, the Taliban are very active in Bajour and the Pakistani military does not have full control over the area.
Link
Additionally, attacks in Punjab province are stepping up and that is extremely worisome.
Originally posted by: dphantom
Additionally, attacks in Punjab province are stepping up and that is extremely worisome.
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: dphantom
Additionally, attacks in Punjab province are stepping up and that is extremely worisome.
Links?
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: dphantom
Additionally, attacks in Punjab province are stepping up and that is extremely worisome.
Links?
In the link at the bottom of the article.
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: dphantom
Additionally, attacks in Punjab province are stepping up and that is extremely worisome.
Links?
In the link at the bottom of the article.
The article has no citations. It's BS.
ISLAMABAD ? A suicide bombing at a crowded Shiite mosque south of Pakistan's capital killed 22 people Sunday, the latest evidence of how security in the U.S.-allied nation is crumbling well beyond the Afghan border region where al-Qaida and Taliban fighters thrive.
The violence came as a senior Pakistani Taliban commander said his group was behind a deadly suicide bombing Saturday night in Islamabad and promised two more attacks per week in the country if the U.S. does not stop missile strikes on Pakistani territory.
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You still believe that it was the U.S. who brought violent fanaticism and corruption to that part of the world!? Wow... you don't read much history, do you?Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its all well and fine for Common Courtesy to say, "Seems like when one lies down in bed with a snake, you will eventually get bit." , but what that ignores is the fact the The US occupation of Afghanistan is a big part of the drive the snake into the Pakistani bed. And then to add injury to insult, we are not sure if the snake will go harmlessly go to sleep in the Pakistani bed, but when the USA starts raining bombs into Pakistan, its bound to energize all the snakes, frogs, and snails into bite back mode. Creating more terrorists in the process.
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You still believe that it was the U.S. who brought violent fanaticism and corruption to that part of the world!? Wow... you don't read much history, do you?Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its all well and fine for Common Courtesy to say, "Seems like when one lies down in bed with a snake, you will eventually get bit." , but what that ignores is the fact the The US occupation of Afghanistan is a big part of the drive the snake into the Pakistani bed. And then to add injury to insult, we are not sure if the snake will go harmlessly go to sleep in the Pakistani bed, but when the USA starts raining bombs into Pakistan, its bound to energize all the snakes, frogs, and snails into bite back mode. Creating more terrorists in the process.